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2nd Test: Australia v India at Perth Dec 14-18 2018 - AUSTRALIA WON BY 146 RUNS

WaznTheGreat

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India are a much more rounded adaptable side than they've been historically - especially the bowlers, seems like Kohli has a lot to do with that. And while they don't have the plethora of great bats they've had in the past, again they are more committed to doing the job... still, your 3 quicks can be destructive so you'll have a chance... just hard to see where you're runs will come from...

While it's good to see Australia struggle a bit, it's kind of weird that you have one astonishingly good bat with an equally astonishing technique and literally nothing else aside from some flat track heroes... even in those 80s teams Border had some decent players, and decent young talent around him... Renshaw has looked (IMO) the best prospect, but TBH that's pretty sad because he's not all that... Is it the BBL? Started earlier though? Did systems etc become complacent? Like the great Windies teams just the expectation that further great players would emerge? Unlike the Windies, they will for you, but some of the basics need to be learned better (all that's with a grain of salt of course, as every country is in much the same boat, but for the most part the rest of us have a long history of being used to mediocrity... and TBH Smith aside your test bats just look not flash on anything but roads...

Still, Starc might be annoyed, and he can run through a side... any side... (and the other two are just always very good)

LOLZZZ Starc is a donkey
 

Twizzle

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did someone say green pitch

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JJ

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Honestly? It's a bloody long discussion. You can talk about everything from grass roots problems, pitches, weird selection policies, a clueless high performance manager, cultural concerns, the continued devaluation of the Shield competition, stagnation and incompetence at an administrative level....and that's just the easy stuff to see.

Realistically, we've had the same folks in charge of the game since 2001, and all the new guys came form the same school as the ones they replaced. That's not a successful or sustainable model.
Shield cricket used to be incredible - looks like a joke atm - yet as HT would say, these donkeys still can't score runs
 

King hit

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Won't be able to watch much of this test unfortunately, busy as f**k. India aren't looking at full strength and the fight in our boys is there so there is a chance at winning this one.
 

Bazal

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Shield cricket used to be incredible - looks like a joke atm - yet as HT would say, these donkeys still can't score runs

Even within that one issue, there are so many intertwined issues, honestly. The best bowlers rarely play Shield cricket, and when they do their workload is often capped. We've had a so-called high performance manager perpetuating the idea that scoring 30 is good enough. Coaching is a problem, especially in terms of the approach to batting and the way batting is coached. Pitches are often roads, so when they aren't batsmen fail, and because of the other issues, very few batsmen seem to have the killer instinct when they are on a good wicket. If you're told that 30 is a pass mark, then getting to 100 must feel like job done.

But I think the major issue, above all these, is that the Shield is shorter than it used to be and split by the BBL. Six rounds from October to December, then a break until the end of February, and four more rounds from then. You can't build anything in that environment.
 

tomdl

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Pitch wont look like that come ball 1 tomorrow. They’d have shaved it and rolled it this arvo. Reckon it will be a lovely pitch to bat on after lunch tomorrow. Pity we have no openers to dig in for the first session while it will be tough.
 

Twizzle

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I really dont expect the pitch to look like that at the toss today but f**k me thats green, so much live turf above ground level will be like batting on a corrugated roof
 

TheParraboy

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Dammit, you've just leaked our entire game plan.

Well most of it apart from the line that says get Kholi and Pujara out before they score lots and lots and lots of runs.

I think your right, in addition....

... no local boy vice captain extraordinaire the great Mitchel MARSH to bowl his customary 2-3 overs per innings, India will have their wicked ways with the bat.
 

Timbo

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It would be pretty amazing if they left that grass on the deck.

I've always wanted to see a one-day test match.
 

TheParraboy

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Last match here WA v NSW

ALL 40 wickets for the match taken

NSW batted first 268 (Jye Richardson 8/58)
WA 198
NSW 253
WA 212

Lyon (NSW) took 3 wickets per innings
Richardson (WA) 11 for the match
Copeland 7 (NSW) for the match

NSW won by 104 runs, in the 1st session of day 4
 

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