herbert henry1908
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f**k...I didn't realise (or check) that Carey was that old. I'm surprised actually.
He pursued an AFL career before coming back to cricket.
f**k...I didn't realise (or check) that Carey was that old. I'm surprised actually.
I’m adamant that you need to pick on keeping ability firstly and foremostly... pick the best keeper not the second best keeper with a better batting average..
To stand in the field for days, focusing on each and every ball, take every chance, keep the chat up, and stop byes/wides to the boundary etc... you need the best person to do all of that. Pick the second best keeper and you risk dropping chances, leaking runs.. it’s the most crucial fielding position..
No keeper at first class level is a mug with the bat. But just like the mythical all-rounder people have been chasing for years, the Adam Gilchrist keeper/batsman is possibly a once in a lifetime player..
Sure if there are a number of keepers pretty even in ability then their batting average may come into it but I’d always choose the best keeper with an average of 25 over the second best keeper with an average of 50.
Isn’t there an argument Gilchrist was the second best keeper for much of his tenure? I mean he wasn’t a bad keeper, but I reckon there were better in shield at the time.
Isn’t there an argument Gilchrist was the second best keeper for much of his tenure? I mean he wasn’t a bad keeper, but I reckon there were better in shield at the time.
agree, but f**k me he could bat,
he was a once in a generation batsman and keeping was secondary but no one really complained
Who?
Darren Berry?
Haddin was the original scissorhands, dropped some absolute sitters.I’m going off memory here, but in the second half of his career I remember talk that Haddin was the best keeper around.
Haddin was the original scissorhands, dropped some absolute sitters.
Haddin was the original scissorhands, dropped some absolute sitters.
Gilly was a fine keeper. He would have made the side even if he averaged 40.
Totally. Not complaining about his selection at all.
Gilchrist was as good if not better than Haddin.
Haddin had a great series against a pretty poor pom side and everyone forgets how horrid Mr 'expressing myself by lobbing the ball to mid off' was with the bat and the sitters he dropped. He caught some screamers, I'll admit but they were negated by his howlers.
He was so poor that prior to that ashes series people were calling for Wade to replace him!!
It really seems to me that glove work is almost an afterthought in the selection of a wicket keeper these days. They need to be able to score runs and if they are capable with the gloves, all the better. It definitely used to be the other way around. I can remember when some wicket keepers batted at 11.
Rod Marsh was handy enough with the bat, but was selected squarely for his ability with the gloves. You could argue that his performance with the bat waned in the second half of his career, but his spot was just about a certainty for his glove work- in fact, he was so good with the gloves that they got his sons selected many times.
Nevill's problem is that he's 20 years too late.
When I survey the NZ scene, virtually all of the contenders for the gloves are fairly suspect with them.