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Eels in the media

Bazal

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I seem to remember Gutho being the one who is holding out, not the club.

More like it's mutual.

Gutho knocked back an offer that he felt was too low. The club said ok, prove you're worth more. Gutho is now doing that.

It's the biggest storm in a thimble, but it's Parramatta so it sells papers.
 

T.S Quint

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More like it's mutual.

Gutho knocked back an offer that he felt was too low. The club said ok, prove you're worth more. Gutho is now doing that.

It's the biggest storm in a thimble, but it's Parramatta so it sells papers.

Yep, any way to have a dig at the club.
 

Dibs

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Every time Parramatta look like they are about to get things right, they find a way to screw it up.

It really is an uncanny ability the club should put a patent on.

The Eels have the brand new $360 million Bankwest Stadium ready to unveil next week, yet don’t have a coach or a captain to lead them into the future.

What’s worse, it looks like they are in no rush to address it.

It’s about time the club’s new general manager of football Mark O’Neill and chief executive Bernie Gurr got on with business before this goes pear-shaped.

The club also has 13 other players coming off contract this year, including Mitchell Moses, Manu Ma’u and the respected and loyal Tim Mannah.

But locking up Brad Arthur and Clint Gutherson is the key.

Let’s start with Gutherson’s predicament.

While I am not a Parramatta fan, the great Mick Cronin is.

And right now the Eels legend is with the rest of us, utterly confused as to why the club is holding out on giving their inspirational skipper a new deal.

Not only is Gutherson, 24, entering his prime, he can play any position in the backline.

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Clint Gutherson is the key to Parramatta’s future. Picture: AAP
If Brad Fittler was naming his NSW team tomorrow, it would be hard to go past Gutherson for the bench utility spot.

But that doesn’t go close to explaining what he means to Parramatta, as a player and person.

As Cronin said: “I remember when he came back from injury last year, he was the one bloke who was hurting … it looked like it mattered to him. As a Parramatta supporter, that is what you want to see.”

The delay in negotiations is not of Gutherson’s doing, and it’s not Arthur’s fault, either.

Arthur had his retention and recruitment powers stripped from him last year when O’Neill walked through the door.

O’Neill has been dealing with Gutherson’s agent Sam Ayoub since late last year and they are still not close to working out a deal, despite what the club would like fans to believe.

Initially, Gutherson was tabled a two-year offer said to be worth $450,000 for the first year and $500,000 for the second. Weeks later that was increased to $500,000 for each year.

Understandably, Ayoub not only wanted a longer deal but an offer in line with Gutherson’s market value. About $700,000 a season is the figure I have been told.

In today’s market, that is not asking for a king’s ransom for the player known at Parramatta as the “King”.

There are conflicting reports from rival clubs that the asking price for Gutherson is as high as $850,000.

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Clint Gutherson is entering his prime, and can play any position in the backline.
The truth will come out when Gutherson makes a call on his career.

But as Cronin said, who could the Eels buy to replace Gutherson for a better price?

It is not as if James Tedesco, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Kalyn Ponga or Tom Trbojevic are on the market, and they would all cost significantly more.

“Usually the ones you can buy are the ones their own clubs don’t want,” Cronin said.

“And they made him captain for a reason. You don’t make a bloke of his age captain if you are thinking of letting him go.”

You’d think not.

But Ayoub has said if no deal is done by this weekend, the door will be open to rival clubs. Already three have expressed interest.

Gutherson does not want to leave, but Parramatta are playing a dangerous game. And it only leaves Arthur in a more vulnerable position as he fights to keep his job.

To a point, I can understand why negotiations with Arthur have been delayed given there are no other NRL head coaching positions up for grabs.

But it doesn’t make it right what they are doing to Arthur.

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Parramatta Eels coach Brad Arthur is also coming off contract. Picture: John Appleyard
If Arthur has proven one thing, through the salary cap crisis and since, it is that he has the club’s best interests at heart. Like Gutherson.

And he has shown again this year that he can coach. But it is almost like Arthur is again being forced to coach with one hand tied behind his back.

Not only are the Eels playing $700,000 under the salary cap — which seems ridiculous for a club that is not on the breadline — but Arthur has to contend with 14 players coming off contract.

Yet he has managed three wins from four games, the only loss against premiers the Roosters after the Eels stood toe-to-toe with them for most of the match.

But there will come a point soon when all this uncertainty starts to have a negative impact. And when that happens, you know Arthur will be held accountable, not those above him who have allowed this to fester.

https://outline.com/kpFFv7

What a f**ken terrible article !!!
I stopped reading after we have no one to lead us into the future. Next week is the future and we have someone, next month is the future and we have someone, September is the future and we have someone.
 

Bazal

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I stopped reading after we have no one to lead us into the future. Next week is the future and we have someone, next month is the future and we have someone, September is the future and we have someone.

Yeah but they have today off, so today we have no one to lead us into tomorrow. Sack BA!
 

Poupou Escobar

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TBH I like the concept of the retention team maintaining the roster and slotting a coach in to do a job. No more 5 year plans. No more honeymoons for coaches to "assemble their own squad". Keep the roster turning, Players signed and released on merit. Coach needs to hit the ground running.
Five year plans are only for a coach taking over a salary cap disaster anyway. Otherwise that stuff isn't required.
 

Joshuatheeel

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EELS GETTING THE PROCESS RIGHT

PARRAMATTA’S new recruitment policy, not an apparent lack of desire to lock in big-name players, is behind the Eels’ decision to delay securing stars Mitchell Moses and Clint Gutherson.

The Eels see Moses and Gutherson as part of their long-term plans but have overhauled their recruitment methods following a disastrous salary cap predicament in recent years when they’ve overpaid for players and struggled to make a competition dent.

The changes include setting up a five-person roster management committee and a more data-centric approach to recruitment and retention.

The Eels offered Gutherson a contract in the pre-season worth about $500,000 which was rejected, with both parties agreeing to come back to the table early in the season.

People have been critical of the Eels for not locking in their stars, but the season is only four rounds old and they finished last in 2018, so you could forgive their caution.

The roster management committee was due to meet again on Thursday, with negotiations with Moses and Gutherson expected to pick up in coming weeks.

https://outline.com/5LCC2e
 

emjaycee

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EELS GETTING THE PROCESS RIGHT

PARRAMATTA’S new recruitment policy, not an apparent lack of desire to lock in big-name players, is behind the Eels’ decision to delay securing stars Mitchell Moses and Clint Gutherson.

The Eels see Moses and Gutherson as part of their long-term plans but have overhauled their recruitment methods following a disastrous salary cap predicament in recent years when they’ve overpaid for players and struggled to make a competition dent.

The changes include setting up a five-person roster management committee and a more data-centric approach to recruitment and retention.

The Eels offered Gutherson a contract in the pre-season worth about $500,000 which was rejected, with both parties agreeing to come back to the table early in the season.

People have been critical of the Eels for not locking in their stars, but the season is only four rounds old and they finished last in 2018, so you could forgive their caution.

The roster management committee was due to meet again on Thursday, with negotiations with Moses and Gutherson expected to pick up in coming weeks.

https://outline.com/5LCC2e
*clap *clap *clap
Finally some sense (and the actual truth).
 

Poupou Escobar

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It's actually interesting to look at these under 18s rep teams. Future NRL stars lining up alongside some absolute nuffies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_Under-18's_rugby_league_team#2012
It's a bit of a trip down memory lane. As well as current Eels Gutherson, Moses, Stone, Afualo, Nohra, Sutoikamanu, Fonua, Parry, Salmon, Kaufusi, Schneider, and Aukafolau, there's also plenty of former Eels:

Kelly
Johnson
Auremi
Hopoate
King
Gagan
Wiliame
Blair
Loko
Toutai
Masinamua
Tanginoa
Pauli
Dockar-Clay
Fuimaono
Twal
R. Smith
Futoikamanu
Curran
Doorey
 
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