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Poupou Escobar

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No shit. How many games he been picked at centre? And in the games he’s been picked, there’s been a few out injured who no doubt will be picked before him. Haven’t seen anything to suggest he’ll make a decent centre let alone a good one.
I liked the gap he hit for Dylan Brown's try against the Dogs. He's quick. Good size for a centre too, and I reckon he's a good enough defender already.

Don't forget he was training at centre in the pre-season but while he was suspended we won a few games and Takairangi got the jump on him. Then Drown was stood down, meaning Salmon was needed in the halves.
 

Johnny88

Juniors
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Bernie Gurr talks of contracted players and coach


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...bfe5aba3815ffe&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium

These are the 18 faces that would prove competitive against any team in the NRL.

From fullback to the front row, to the interchange bench to the coach’s box, this is Parramatta’s 2019 off-contract list which management are refusing to be bullied into re-signing.

On the eve of their Easter Monday homecoming to Bankwest Stadium against the Wests Tigers, the Eels off-contract saga is the story bubbling behind the streamers and fireworks.

There is a fear among some players that the uncertainty across the roster is about to explode.

Others, including the agents of the players off contract, are increasingly disillusioned with management’s cautious recruitment strategy.

Already, captain Clint Gutherson has taken himself to the open market, having rejected the Eels’ original offer of $450,000 a season.

Negotiations between Gutherson and the club began before Christmas and despite widespread confidence the star fullback will remain an Eel, no deal has been done.

Sharing a close relationship with Arthur, Gutherson has told his coach that he wants to know if he’ll be leading the Eels in 2020 before he commits to the club.

Arthur is unable to give Gutherson — or any other player — the answer he wants.

The head coach has been told by management that no contract will be offered to him before June – which is close to Round 13.

Handling the delicate situation with class, Arthur has encouraged Gutherson to secure his future — with or without him.

While Gutherson is an obvious priority for the Eels, they also have stars Dylan Brown, Mitchell Moses, Daniel Alvaro, and Tepai Moeroa in limbo.

The Sunday Telegraph understands David Gower and Kaysa Pritchard will retire at season’s end while Michael Jennings will be offered a dramatically reduced one-year deal.

But still, none of the 17 off-contract players have put pen to paper despite the Eels’ promising start to the season.

The daring and deliberate recruitment strategy, led by new general manager of football Mark O’Neill, club chairman Sean McElduff and chief executive Bernie Gurr was determined in the wake of previous salary cap mismanagement and a wooden-spoon 2018 season.

And it’s a strategy Gurr says the club are unwilling to sway from despite increasing calls from fans and commentators for the club to secure their roster and head coach immediately.

“They’re the same people at the back end of last year who were heavily critical of the club’s players and the coaches and the entire management of the club,’’ Gurr told The Sunday Telegraph.

“So we’ve got to stick to our disciplines and our process.

“What we need to do is make sure we have a very disciplined process around how we manage our salary cap and how we manage all those negotiations.

“The reality is, Mark O’Neill has come on as our general manager of football and he’s in constant dialogue with the managers of players all the time.

“People think, you’re not signing these players, therefore nothing is going on and we’re asleep at the wheel.

“Nothing could be further from the truth.

“There’s a lot of discussions going on internally with our club and assessing certain players and there’s always discussion going on between Mark and the player agents.’’

Gurr confirmed there had been no change to the club’s position on whether they would be offering Arthur a new deal before June.

He also indicated five weeks was not enough for the club to start handing out contacts.

“We’ve been absolutely committed behind the scenes in supporting Brad and the players and giving them every assistance they need to be successful,’’ Gurr said.

“When you finish 16th after you finish fourth the year before (2017), there’s going to be scrutiny, we get that.

“But we embarked on a journey, which included a review and the sole goal was to give our coach and his players, every assistance they need to be successful.

“We’d like to think we’re on the right trajectory. We’re nowhere near where we want to be, or need to be, but the start has been positive.

“We need to give the coaches and players a fair sample of time and number of games to just show us where we’re really at.

“That’s only fair to the coaches and the players and it’s also fair to the club.

“Because as I said, a lot of the people criticising us now for not acting now are the same ones that were bagging us at the back-end of last year that we were in disarray and we needed to make mass-changed to the club.

“It’s about blocking out the emotion and staying disciplined.’’

“Our absolute only focus at the moment is opening Bankwest Stadium. It’s a monumental amount of work for everybody in our club to get to this point.

“But at the same time, he’s been working with the players and the managers.’’


PARRAMATTA’S OFF-CONTRACT STARS
1. Clint Gutherson

High priority. Offer of $600,000 per season has been rejected. Will test the market.

2. Bevan French

Wants to play fullback but has shown utility factor by excelling at five-eighth in the last two weeks for Wentworthville. Yet to receive offer. Manly and St George Illawarra are possible homes for 2020.

3. Michael Jennings

Has returned to form scoring four tries in four games this year. Will be offered dramatically reduced one-year contract for 2020.

4. Josh Hoffman

Has played one NRL match this year. On standby for Blake Ferguson this week. Unlikely to receive 2020 contract offer.

5. George Jennings

Yet to play NRL this year. Considered a depth signing. Will be offered incentive-based contract for 2020.

6 . Dylan Brown

Technically not a free agent until November but the Eels will ramp up discussions with the injured five-eighth about a long-term deal in the coming weeks. Already rejected big money from Warriors.

7. Mitchell Moses

High priority. Tabled three-year deal worth $750,000 a season. Yet to accept, but Eels confident he’ll commit through until 2022.

8. Daniel Alvaro

Workaholic forward. At 25 has his best football in front of him. Keen to keep.

9. Kaysa Pritchard

Granted indefinite leave in February. Fears he may never play NRL again.

10. Tim Mannah

Club legend in strong form. Has admitted he may be forced to continue career elsewhere. Eels are expected to offer one-year deal. The club want him involved with a post-career role.

11. Manu Ma’u

A knee injury has kept him sidelined this season. Likely to attract interest from rival clubs but Eels keen to retain..

12. Brad Takairangi

Similar to Michael Jennings with the likelihood of being offered only a one-year deal. Likely to test market for longer-term deal.

13. Tepai Moeroa

Similar priority to Ma’u. Has transitioned from edge player to middle forward.

14. Greg Leleisiuao

Elevated into NRL squad last year from under-20s grand final team. Has been given no guarantee of playing NRL. Unlikely to receive contract offer.

15. Matt McIlwrick

Journeyman signed in this pre-season on 12-month contract. No decision until later this year.

16. Ray Stone

Junior Kangaroos and NSW under-20s backrower. Named on the bench to face Tigers tomorrow. Needs to show his worth over the next month before being offered contract extension.

17. David Gower

Popular veteran who has indicated 2019 will be his final season.

Coach: Brad Arthur
Told he won’t be offered a new contract until June.
 

oldmancraigy

Coach
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Matt McIlwrick has barely arrived and we are already screwed if he goes??

No to
French Hoff Gennings Kritchard and Taka. Gowie retires.

I wouldn't offer Gutho much more than $600k...
 

eel01s

Bench
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Got to laugh at media BS. What else can they write about? Oh, I know, how about some positive stories about the game.
 

Gazzamatta

Coach
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The Bern is spot on, we win a few games and all these off contract players are now awesome. We were all tipped to get the spoon by these same so called experts.
I watched the Manly V Dragons game last night. Id suggest neither of these teams are considered top 4 teams yet I saw two teams show toughness, agression and great attitude. My personal feeling is that both these teams showed more last night than our beloved Eels have shown to date in season 2019. There are some damn good teams this year and some like Penrith with enormous potential to improve . I dont think we are performing as well as some think. Definitely improved but a long way to go.
Tomorrow is a massive game for us. Its a must win and must play well game. No periods of lack of concentration or energy. I expect an awesome performance. It will show where we are heading. No excuses tomorrow.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Matt McIlwrick has barely arrived and we are already screwed if he goes??

No to
French Hoff Gennings Kritchard and Taka. Gowie retires.

I wouldn't offer Gutho much more than $600k...

Hoff, Gennings are both back ups - yeah they are aren’t superstars but have experience and provide cover for the whole back line. For the right price they wouId be good to keep. Still need experience in your squad.
 

emjaycee

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https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/ap...h/news-story/86f4cb01bc9b8577daab565637aae48b

And look at this article from Snooper. Saints making us look like fools apparently. Reckons no player ever has signed a contract without knowing who the coach is going to be.
The main protagonist against our management regarding signings (or lack of) for the last 4-6 weeks has been Hooper and sometimes Hooper alone. He obviously has some agenda, however I have no idea what it might be.
Even Brent Reid (sp) who I don't always like said on NRL360 the other night, that our controlled approach to re-signing made sense given the circumstances of last years debacle and the review we had to have.
Kent of course is jumping on the Hooper bandwagon whenever he gets a chance but was noticeably silent when Reid was commenting the other night. The rest of the commentators/media on Fox's various shows are just running with whatever Hooper says like he is some knowledgeable expert.
 

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