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Rockin' the suburbs - Finals back to base

Timmah

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https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/05/10/finals-footy-returns-to-suburban-grounds-in-2019

Finals footy returns to suburban grounds in 2019
Dan Walsh
NRL.com Reporter
Fri 10 May 2019, 01:01 PM

Finals footy is set to return to suburban grounds for the first time in almost a decade with relevant clubs to be given options on where they host week one qualifying finals.

The knockdown of Allianz Stadium and emergence of Bankwest Stadium as an elite venue has prompted the NRL to scrap its policy of Sydney finals being played at either Moore Park or ANZ Stadium, starting this season.

Not since 2010 has a suburban ground hosted a finals fixture, after thousands of fans were locked out of a sold-out WIN Stadium when Jarryd Hayne's Parramatta carved up the Dragons a year earlier.

In recent years the edict that clubs such as the Sea Eagles, Sharks and Panthers must host finals games at Allianz Stadium or ANZ Stadium has delivered the opposite, underwhelming turnouts that the NRL now views as the greater of two evils.

Week one of the finals in 2017 drew just over 75,000 fans to four high-class games, and with Allianz Stadium not available this year, the NRL is wary of a side like Cronulla or Manly being forced to play out of the Olympic precinct.

As a result traditional venues including Lottoland (Manly), PointsBet Stadium (Cronulla), Panthers Stadium, and the home grounds of Wests Tigers and St George Illawarra will be available to home sides should they earn hosting rights in week one by finishing first, second, fifth or sixth.

Sydney clubs can also take games to the new Bankwest Stadium, home to the Eels, or ANZ Stadium or the SCG, where the Roosters are slated to host their home finals.

"There was an opportunity to change the way we think about the finals series venues with Allianz Stadium not available and further challenges ahead with the redevelopment of ANZ Stadium," NRL CEO Todd Greenberg said.

"Clearly Bankwest Stadium will be a great option for us for the finals series this year but it will also be wonderful to see the potential for our week one finals matches to return to suburban settings.

"This will be in place for the 2019 finals series. Once we have the full Sydney stadia network back online we will reassess again."

The NRL has also relaxed similar protocol regarding grand final qualifiers for Newcastle and Canberra, with both regional centres now able to host preliminary finals should either the Knights or Raiders earn the right.

Under previous rules both sides would have hosted week three fixtures at ANZ Stadium or Allianz, protocol that remains in place for Sydney sides.

Brisbane, Melbourne, Gold Coast and the Warriors can all still host finals fixtures as per usual, while North Queensland's new stadium also now allows the Cowboys home ground advantage in week one.

The new finals policy regarding suburban grounds is expected to remain in place until at least 2022, when Allianz Stadium's rebuild is completed.

Head office has included two caveats to a suburban ground hosting a finals fixture; that the playing surface be up to an appropriate standard, and that the home club cover the cost of any necessary infrastructure needed such as additional commentary boxes.

The move will increase scrutiny at Lottoland and the Dragons' Kogarah base Netstrata Jubilee Stadium.

Manly's Brookvale fortress has attracted criticism for several years now, with a pre-season game and A-League fixture shifted due to poor pitch conditions.

Six weeks ago the NRL commissioned an independent report into the Lottoland playing surface to determine if the Sea Eagles round four clash with Souths could go ahead.

That scrutiny prompted a $1.2 million investment from the Northern Beaches Council, who leases the ground to the club.

Kogarah's pitch also came under the microscope when the Dragons had to move their own pre-season trial at the 11th hour after several A-League and football fixtures placed extra strain on the playing surface.
 

adamkungl

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Good for Newcastle and Canberra - never should have been forced to play in Sydney anyway. Separate cities.

Dumb backwards step for the rest.
Put them all at Bankwest or SCG. Half of these joints aren't even fit for first grade.
 

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Good for Newcastle and Canberra - never should have been forced to play in Sydney anyway. Separate cities.

Dumb backwards step for the rest.
Put them all at Bankwest or SCG. Half of these joints aren't even fit for first grade.

Yep, the prelim news is the real headline there for me. Us and the Knights have it hard enough as it is, it'd be the ultimate insult is somehow we were able to get to the point of being the home team in a prelim and coming up against the Roosters or Rabbits at a Sydney stadium.
 

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Hmmmm very vague on details..

Scenario -

St George (5) v bulldogs (8)

Possible crowd -40,000

Where does it get played ?
It literally says in the article, they can still choose SCG Bankwest or ANZ if they want.
 

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Good for Newcastle and Canberra - never should have been forced to play in Sydney anyway. Separate cities.

Dumb backwards step for the rest.
Put them all at Bankwest or SCG. Half of these joints aren't even fit for first grade.

Newcastle and Canberra being allowed to host week 3 finals was LONG overdue. They are in separate regions of NSW, yet were forced to play in Sydney under the NRLs 'home region' policy for Week 3. Good to see common sense prevailing on this decision.

Regarding finals hosted by Sydney teams, SCG/ANZ/Bankwest Stadium shouldve been the venues for Weeks 1/2 and ANZ/SCG for Week 3. Regarding SCG, wont have to worry about scheduling issues involving the AFL as the Swans have been going terrible so far.
 
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There’d be some upset fans if they did. It’s not a great venue.

If the Dragons have the choice they’d surely take Kogarah. It’s a genuine home ground advantage.

If there was actually a 40k crowd on the cards it'd be insane to play it at Kogarah.

Part of the reason why this is a backwards step. NRL should retain control of finals, they're the ones who lose hundreds of thousands in gate $$ if the club makes a poor choice.
We should be looking to improve finals crowds not concede defeat.
 

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It literally says in the article, they can still choose SCG Bankwest or ANZ if they want.

So it is up to clubs and NRL won't step in?

I can't imagine a scenario where they would let a 1st placed saints play a 4th placed parra at Kogarah for example.

But we will see soon enough I guess.
 

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If there was actually a 40k crowd on the cards it'd be insane to play it at Kogarah.

Part of the reason why this is a backwards step. NRL should retain control of finals, they're the ones who lose hundreds of thousands in gate $$ if the club makes a poor choice.
We should be looking to improve finals crowds not concede defeat.

Agreed.

I don't mind suburban grounds being eligible for week 1 but needs to be horses for courses.

Penrith/cownoys makes sense for example but not saints/dogs
 

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About time they changed the rule for us and Canberra.

The Sydney home games should be allocated on a case by case basis by the NRL depending on opponent. A Saints home game against the Eels for example should be at BankWest, while a Manly v Cowboys game should be at Brookvale.
 

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If there was actually a 40k crowd on the cards it'd be insane to play it at Kogarah.

Part of the reason why this is a backwards step. NRL should retain control of finals, they're the ones who lose hundreds of thousands in gate $$ if the club makes a poor choice.
We should be looking to improve finals crowds not concede defeat.

The NRL get the gate takings from finals matches, so allowing the Sydney teams to take their home final to a sub-20k capacity suburban ground is going to affect them

As NK Arsenal said, the venue should be according to the matchup and the potential crowd for it. For example, Dragons vs Titans is definitely more suited to Kogarah/Wollongong, but matches such as Dragons vs Eels/Bulldogs/Rabbitohs should be at a larger venue.
 

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I think that’s for the later weeks.
No, it literally says in the article Sydney clubs can still choose those three stadia.

Sydney clubs can also take games to the new Bankwest Stadium, home to the Eels, or ANZ Stadium or the SCG, where the Roosters are slated to host their home finals.
 

Timmah

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Here's a tip NRL - try changing your pricing and start times and fans might want to turn up at finals.
This kind of predictable statement is predicated on the basis that finals crowds aren't already strong, I think they are. Didn't one of the recent finals series set an all time record?
 
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