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Chipmunk

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You're saying that because the Broncos aren't well ahead of us on the ladder, then Lodge isn't any good? Strange logic, mate.

Surely if the Broncos had 5 Origin level players and Lodge in their forward pack that if they're all that great players they'd be going better.
 

84 Baby

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To be honest I don't get the love for Lodge at all. Pangai Jnr, Haas, Fifita, Ofengaue, and Gillett are all Origin Level rep players. If Lodge was any good also, they'd be well ahead of us on the ladder.
By that theory, TPJ, Hass, Fifita, Ofahengaue & Gillett aren't any chop either
 

84 Baby

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Lodge is this years Russell Packer for Eels fans...lol
If we were to sign Lodge, I wouldn't give a shit about his onfield performances. All I would want him to do is take the Tepais and Penis Torpedos of the team, show them the video of the shit he did, then tell those players "If you miss a tackle, make a weak run, give a dumb penalty or generally just play shit, then remember, I know where your family lives"
 

Noise

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If we were to sign Lodge, I wouldn't give a shit about his onfield performances. All I would want him to do is take the Tepais and Penis Torpedos of the team, show them the video of the shit he did, then tell those players "If you miss a tackle, make a weak run, give a dumb penalty or generally just play shit, then remember, I know where your family lives"
This would be even more entertaining if Peni or Tepai are playing for different teams next year
 

Chipmunk

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By that theory, TPJ, Hass, Fifita, Ofahengaue & Gillett aren't any chop either

Im not saying they ALL are.

Like us, perhaps they're lacking some leadership in the middle. It's obvious then that Lodge isn't going to provide that.
 

84 Baby

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Im not saying they ALL are.

Like us, perhaps they're lacking some leadership in the middle. It's obvious then that Lodge isn't going to provide that.
So only Lodge is the deciding factor in their current ladder position? That to means seems like a further indictment on the other players
 

Chipmunk

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So only Lodge is the deciding factor in their current ladder position? That to means seems like a further indictment on the other players

No, what I'm saying is that they're probably all fine players individually, but if 5 of them are Origin level players and they're still as poor as us then they're must be a reason.

I say that reason is a lack of Leadership in the middle.

What problem do we need to fix? Leadership in the middle.

If Lodge can't provide the Leadership in the middle for a team with 5 Origin level players, then why the f**k would he be any use to us?

I suggest if we bought him he would be the next Poore or Lussick.
 

Chipmunk

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If we were to sign Lodge, I wouldn't give a shit about his onfield performances. All I would want him to do is take the Tepais and Penis Torpedos of the team, show them the video of the shit he did, then tell those players "If you miss a tackle, make a weak run, give a dumb penalty or generally just play shit, then remember, I know where your family lives"

That doesn't seem to be working with the 5 Origin level forwards he currently plays with.

To be brutally honest without the alcohol to make him 10 foot tall and bullet proof I doubt he'd be game to say boo to Manu Ma'u.
 
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Eelementary

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Probably legal advice not to talk about it.

Possibly.

But I would question whether a decent lawyer would instruct their client to conduct interviews and, rather than show remorse, blame drugs, alcohol, and his state of mental health; sympathy often goes a long way in the justice system.

It's all speculation, I suppose, anyway...
 

lingard

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No, what I'm saying is that they're probably all fine players individually, but if 5 of them are Origin level players and they're still as poor as us then they're must be a reason.

I say that reason is a lack of Leadership in the middle.

What problem do we need to fix? Leadership in the middle.

If Lodge can't provide the Leadership in the middle for a team with 5 Origin level players, then why the f**k would he be any use to us?

I suggest if we bought him he would be the next Poore or Lussick.


You don't think it could be a lack of consistency in the halves, plus a new coach who is trying to change playing style, structures, culture and personnel?
 

Chipmunk

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You don't think it could be a lack of consistency in the halves, plus a new coach who is trying to change playing style, structures, culture and personnel?

Plenty of contributing factors I'm sure, but if the forwards were good enough the halves would be going just fine, well at least for them to be a Top 6 team.

You're watching a completely different sport if you think Lodge will bring to the table what is missing at Parra.
 

lingard

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Plenty of contributing factors I'm sure, but if the forwards were good enough the halves would be going just fine, well at least for them to be a Top 6 team.

You're watching a completely different sport if you think Lodge will bring to the table what is missing at Parra.
What's missing at Parramatta is: a top quality five-eight, strong forward leadership, one (or, preferably two) state of origin level players, and a high-profile coach. So, no, Lodge wouldn't bring all that. But he'd bring some of it. (And I'm not suggesting he should coach Parramatta. Or am I?)
 

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