Would you prefer dynasties in the game or talent equalisation?

[ram raid]

Talent equalisation.

 

[Captain Apollo]

I don't know much about them but I am thinking those soft caps they have in American sport. You go over a certain amount and have to pay a tax into an NRL slush fund.
Combine that with a rookie draft and free agency in order to equalise talent and published player wages to get rid of agents.

The only American sport that has a soft salary cap is the NBA, which also has a luxury tax. MLB doesn't have any salary cap as, when the big labor disputes happened in that sport, the players beat the owners. However MLB does have a luxury tax, and it doesn';t kick in unless a team's payroll hits the $189 million mark.

The NFL has a hard salary cap, with a rookie draft. Yet despite that "talent equalisation" you still see teams which are perennial also rans (e.g. Oakland Raiders, Washington Redskins) whilst there are teams who year in year out are always contending (e.g. the New England Patriots, the Philadelphia Eagles). That's because some teams manage their salary cap, and make better draft choices than others. No sport has been able to overcome that issue anywhere in the world. (Also for the record, the NHL and MLS also have hard salary caps).

 

[Mr Spock!]

Depends if its my club or not with the dynasty?

Would the game survive a dynasty like the saints 11 year stranglehold in the 50s and 60s?

 

[Pedge1971]

Salary cap was put there to stop clubs sending themselves broke (which given behaviours in signing talent would absolutely happen).

Raiders and Broncos great teams no doubt cheated the cap in the years they had their so called dynasty and no doubt could back it up with $$$...

Not a lot of dynasties in sport these days. The days of Man U in the EPL for example are a thing of the past even if there is no cap.

 

[LineBall]

Would removing the salary cap for the NRL be another nail in the coffin for professional Rugby Union in Australia?

 

[Perth Red]

Would removing the salary cap for the NRL be another nail in the coffin for professional Rugby Union in Australia?

Depends how many nrl clubs sent themselves broke in the chase for that star signing. SL has brought in salary cap exemptions for signing players from outside RL systems, maybe same for U21’s and overseas union players here? Go out and spend your unused money on signing up all the best 16-18 years union players and talent from the PI’s. That would suffocate union at the source.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Would removing the salary cap for the NRL be another nail in the coffin for professional Rugby Union in Australia?

Are there really any RU players left in Australia who'd make it in league? The best of the talent are playing in overseas domestic rugby competitions (e.g. England, France, Japan) and not in Australia. As many of those teams are privately owned, the NRL would be unable to compete financially with them.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Depends how many nrl clubs sent themselves broke in the chase for that star signing. SL has brought in salary cap exemptions for signing players from outside RL systems, maybe same for U21’s and overseas union players here? Go out and spend your unused money on signing up all the best 16-18 years union players and talent from the PI’s. That would suffocate union at the source.

DSmith suggested this back in 2013 and the fans had a shit fit, "but its unfair because my club is lazy and doesnt go looking for outside talent so we will be disadvantaged, wahhh"

 

[LineBall]

Are there really any RU players left in Australia who'd make it in league? The best of the talent are playing in overseas domestic rugby competitions (e.g. England, France, Japan) and not in Australia. As many of those teams are privately owned, the NRL would be unable to compete financially with them.

You don’t think the Roosters or Broncos could offer the same money if there was no cap?

I agree that there are few Union players that would interest clubs at the moment.

 

[Legends]

Someone needs to explain to the previous Bulldogs management, Des Hasler and Roosters fans what the salary cap is

So you accept that the Dogs mismanaged their salary cap, but don't accept that the Roosters are successful because they manage their salary cap well? I suppose there's no logic amongst the bitter and jealous.

 

[dogslife]

So you accept that the Dogs mismanaged their salary cap, but don't accept that the Roosters are successful because they manage their salary cap well? I suppose there's no logic amongst the bitter and jealous.

You're new around here... Or you're not... It's hard to tell with Roosters fans. But the buzzwords you want to use around here are salty and jealous

 

[Pedge1971]

Depends how many nrl clubs sent themselves broke in the chase for that star signing. SL has brought in salary cap exemptions for signing players from outside RL systems, maybe same for U21’s and overseas union players here? Go out and spend your unused money on signing up all the best 16-18 years union players and talent from the PI’s. That would suffocate union at the source.

Already happenkng noting Crighton and Murray.

 

[The Charlatan]

When my team sucks - talent equalisation.

When my team is going well (which is f**king never,) - dynasties.

 

[Frailty]

Talent equalisation. I'm much more interested in a competition that can bring surprises throughout the season, and where every game matters.

I know competitions like the NBA and Premier League are obviously immensely popular with the same teams winning, but they also have a much larger supporter base to pull from. NBA teams have massive cities behind a team. This wouldn't be the same in the NRL.

 

[typicalfan]

The only American sport that has a soft salary cap is the NBA, which also has a luxury tax. MLB doesn't have any salary cap as, when the big labor disputes happened in that sport, the players beat the owners. However MLB does have a luxury tax, and it doesn';t kick in unless a team's payroll hits the $189 million mark.

The NFL has a hard salary cap, with a rookie draft. Yet despite that "talent equalisation" you still see teams which are perennial also rans (e.g. Oakland Raiders, Washington Redskins) whilst there are teams who year in year out are always contending (e.g. the New England Patriots, the Philadelphia Eagles). That's because some teams manage their salary cap, and make better draft choices than others. No sport has been able to overcome that issue anywhere in the world. (Also for the record, the NHL and MLS also have hard salary caps).

This is because it becomes a 'salary cap management' league. Business vs business rather than player vs player. This is probably what makes it a bit dull because the better run organisation will always find a way to success.

 

[jargan83]

Depends if its my club or not with the dynasty?

Would the game survive a dynasty like the saints 11 year stranglehold in the 50s and 60s?

As a Saints fan, I believe it would.

 

[Mr Spock!]

As a Saints fan, I believe it would.

You'll have to make do with Mary's 11 year dynasty.....

 

[jargan83]

You'll have to make do with Mary's 11 year dynasty.....

Wooden spoons count as winning something right?

Who am I kidding, Mary isn’t even good enough to win that.

 

[Zadar]

Why make the competition mediocre by trying to spread the talent around?

It isn’t meant to be easy to win a comp, and that’s why 12 of the 16 clubs have won a premiership in the last 18 yrs, seems like a reasonable spread, the teams that haven’t are titans,warriors,parra, who are all poorly run, and the raiders have been there abouts without much luck.

There is not enough talent to make every team competitive, just because you plonk a best player in the worst team, doesn’t fix them, there are also rubbish coaches to take into account.

 

[txta2]

The salary cap is there for a very good reason.
Without it the same teams win every year.
f**k that.
Even with it the same teams seems to magically build formidable teams.

Butbutbut what about the great teams of the 90's like the Broncosn Raiders