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"South East QLD Titans"

big hit!

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Yeah. They don’t really have comparable population to us.

then why are we playing matches in an 80k capacity stadium on a regular basis? even 35k is too big for our population considering we can't even sell out a brand new stadium after the inaugural match at cheap prices we charge her relative to OS.

Go back to 20k venues, a capacity we have a chance to regularly fill, make the game an event, and bump up the TV rights that way. It's essentially what they do OS with their 70-80k stadiums that they can fill and double the price.

If population size is the argument, make the stadium capacities appropriate to the population. We try to be big league here when we're nowhere near it.
 

big hit!

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You could have saved yourself a debut novel and just realised that the gold coast is different.
It's simply not a sport town.
f**king /thread

The Titans started off well, QLD government didn't help them. They also bit off a bit more than they could chew
 

jim_57

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Debatable, there are plenty of shit teams in Australian sport that still draw large crowds. If winning games guaranteed crowds Easts would have 40k most seasons.

I think you'd find all those teams have a long history with at least some on-field success. You're expecting a 12 year old club to have generations of diehard fans. Realistically any new club will have a handful of local adults not commited enough to their current team to switch, a few more who have them as their 2nd team then in it is all down to converting the youth as they come through.

I'd go as far to say that the Titans should offer a voucher redeemable for a free 2 game pass/membership to every junior player in the Gold Coast and Northern NSW.
 
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Quicksilver

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then why are we playing matches in an 80k capacity stadium on a regular basis? even 35k is too big for our population considering we can't even sell out a brand new stadium after the inaugural match at cheap prices we charge her relative to OS.

Go back to 20k venues, a capacity we have a chance to regularly fill, make the game an event, and bump up the TV rights that way. It's essentially what they do OS with their 70-80k stadiums that they can fill and double the price.

If population size is the argument, make the stadium capacities appropriate to the population. We try to be big league here when we're nowhere near it.

I’m 100% on board with that. It’s just that we build an 80k stadium for a couple of big events every year and it’s just cheaper to rent it to the small crowd games rather than building the appropriate stadiums.
 

siv

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They also used to play in the Bulimba Cup v Brisbane, Ipswich and Townsville

Not sure what their old colours were though
 

Greenstar5

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Only a small thing but the Titans and Broncos shouldn't play at home on the same round.

Firstly it would give SEQ a game every round over the year and it means the Titans get the weekend free to have their home game while Broncos travel.

For example round 21 has no game in SEQ while round 22 has Titans have the Friday night 6pm, while Broncos have the 8pm.
 

Perth Red

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Refer to my post above, where's the evidence of this?

There are teams across multiple sports that win quite often and never draw crowds and teams that have sucked for decades that get large crowds.

Check it out;

Big Bash League; always strong crowd averages, absolutely no correlation between good crowds and bad crowds when winning percentage is accounted for.

A-League; over the last 3 years each season has had one singular consistently dominant team, 2016-17 = Sydney, 2017-2018 = Newcastle, 2018-2019 = Perth. None saw an increase in support until they hosted a grand final and in all cases the support dropped immediately after the next season started.

Fremantle Dockers; 25 year existence with more losing seasons than wins, crowds in the mid-30s every season since the turn of the century.

Sydney Swans; made finals every year but one between 2003 and 2018, never had a substantial increase or decrease in crowds during that time period, even when they won Premierships and played GFs no major changes.

GWS: 3 consecutive finals appearances have seen a drop in reported crowd averages with the club puttering around the 10,000-12000 mark throughout their existence.

Easts; regular finals appearances and two premierships this decade. Crowds stay more or less the same until finals time.

But there’s plenty of examples of sustained success or sustained failure having significant impact on crowd patterns. It needs to be sustained success or failure and obviously in a region with dynamic not static population interest

Ie
Brisbane Lions 33k to 16k
Manly 15k to 8.5k
Perth Wildcats 5k to 12k
Perth Glory 17k to 9k
NQ 12k to 16k
 

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