Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

[franklin2323]

Will Staines be the best fullback at the club?

I like a ballplaying fullback so Laurie is still my pick but his injury has him behind Staines now.

 

[franklin2323]

That's why I asked about Staines and am willing to compromise on centre with a view to move to 6 later.

Centre and 5/8th stand next to each other anyway so won't be too hard to get Burton into the game if the halves are struggling

 

[betcats]

His kicking game is outstanding so I back him to overtake Luai at some stage

Unless there is some kind of attitude issue or injury I think its going to be very hard to deny this kid the 6 jersey after a full NRL pre-season. Luai is certainly talented and has a chance to beat him out but I think Burton will end up in the 6 jersey at some point next year.

 

[Luke Bowden]

Anyone who tries to turn burton into a backrower is fired. The kid is an out and out half, a more natural half than any we’ve produced in a while.

Fit him in the backline where you can but bulking him up to play as a forward is not happening.

He actually reminds me of Stephen Larkham.

 

[franklin2323]

Unless there is some kind of attitude issue or injury I think its going to be very hard to deny this kid the 6 jersey after a full NRL pre-season. Luai is certainly talented and has a chance to beat him out but I think Burton will end up in the 6 jersey at some point next year.

I think so too. Luai is good but just lacks in a few areas both should be in the 17 if fit though

 

[Alintheeast]

This discussion is the same Penny Fans have been having since forever different player different times. Burton is a 6 shouldn’t be thought of any other way, I am waiting for someone to mention rangey second rower. I watched him against the Sharks he is a thinker he may lack the athletism of a Fittler or the natural skills of Thurston but if you get a chance focus on him for a few minutes during a game. He will bring structure and his skills complement Clearys not intimidate.
Anyway what was Brad Fittler’s nickname in Origin camp?

 

[herbert henry1908]

The talk of Burton in another position only stems from the idea Luai might nail down the 5/8 position. No one is saying Burton isn’t a 5/8.

 

[OldPanther]

The talk of Burton in another position only stems from the idea Luai might nail down the 5/8 position. No one is saying Burton isn’t a 5/8.

This. Luai has shown a lot of promise but hasn't had a chance yet with Maloney here. He could very well earn a spot then you have to fit the both of them. I'm not willing to write him off till he gets some real game time.

 

[Alintheeast]

The talk of Burton in another position only stems from the idea Luai might nail down the 5/8 position. No one is saying Burton isn’t a 5/8.

I’ve seen Fullback, centre, second row, mentioned without mention of Laui, What I am saying is that Burton is nothing but a 6 and needs to stay there. If he cannot displace Laui in the future he is probably better off going somewhere else. The same with Laui
You didn’t answer the question it was Adolph.

 

[OldPanther]

I’ve seen Fullback, centre, second row, mentioned without mention of Laui, What I am saying is that Burton is nothing but a 6 and needs to stay there. If he cannot displace Laui in the future he is probably better off going somewhere else. The same with Laui
You didn’t answer the question it was Adolph.

Except I started the discussion and I said it was a way to fit Burton and Luai in the same team. If you think he couldn't play another position you obviously don't rate him as a footballer. Many of his skills are transferable to other positions.

 

[herbert henry1908]

I’ve seen Fullback, centre, second row, mentioned without mention of Laui, What I am saying is that Burton is nothing but a 6 and needs to stay there. If he cannot displace Laui in the future he is probably better off going somewhere else. The same with Laui
You didn’t answer the question it was Adolph.

Nah, it was always mostly about Luia/Burton not fitting into the same position.

Anyway I think the idea he’s nothing but a 5/8 could be wrong. He was playing on the wing only a few years ago, he looks to have the talent to play several positions. Just that 5/8 is probably his best.

Positional play isn’t hard & fast, there’s many guys that have been able to play multiple positions at a high standard.

 

[franklin2323]

Nah, it was always mostly about Luia/Burton not fitting into the same position.

Anyway I think the idea he’s nothing but a 5/8 could be wrong. He was playing on the wing only a few years ago, he looks to have the talent to play several positions. Just that 5/8 is probably his best.

Positional play isn’t hard & fast, there’s many guys that have been able to play multiple positions at a high standard.

Defensively 5/8th and centre aren't that different. Infact with his footwork it might even suit better if he gets one on one with the opposition centre

 

[OldPanther]

Defensively 5/8th and centre aren't that different. Infact with his footwork it might even suit better if he gets one on one with the opposition centre

Long term he'll have to be in the spine.

 

[franklin2323]

Long term he'll have to be in the spine.

Long term we have some tough calls but until someone steps up and makes a position theirs then we are able to do it

 

[herbert henry1908]

Ball playing fullbacks have become a bigger part of the game, and given ball playing isn’t Nathan’s strength it makes some sense to look at whoever misses out on the 5/8 role for fullback. Although I’m not convinced Luai can do it, it wouldn’t hurt to try.

Cleary’s best games with us were when Moylan was playing fullback. Obviously correlation does not equal causation, but I think Cleary would be better off if he didn’t have the pressure to create the points.

 

[OldPanther]

Long term we have some tough calls but until someone steps up and makes a position theirs then we are able to do it

Ball playing fullbacks have become a bigger part of the game, and given ball playing isn’t Nathan’s strength it makes some sense to look at whoever misses out on the 5/8 role for fullback. Although I’m not convinced Luai can do it, it wouldn’t hurt to try.

Cleary’s best games with us were when Moylan was playing fullback. Obviously correlation does not equal causation, but I think Cleary would be better off if he didn’t have the pressure to create the points.

Agree x2

 

[maple_69]

While we are throwing players around for positions, what about Luai to centre? On a small sample of each at 6, Luai has seemed much more confident and solid in his defensive decision making and contact. Strength is his running game and could certainly feed Sauce/Naden.

Ultimately, as a few people have mentioned we need to figure out who is going to be best at setting up the play. Once we’ve got that guy, then we can figure out whether any of the spare halves/fullbacks could work.

 

[OldPanther]

This is taking the piss surely?

 

[mxlegend99]

This is taking the piss surely?

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As if he would return to the club that wouldnt give him a shot.

Might have been under a different coach. But Eels gave him a shot when we wouldnt and he would only return if we were his only option IMO

 

[OldPanther]

As if he would return to the club that wouldnt give him a shot.

Might have been under a different coach. But Eels gave him a shot when we wouldnt and he would only return if we were his only option IMO

Exactly. They said something called the rugby league report said it but I've never heard of it.