Can we all finally accept that stadiums are better than suburban parks?

[forby]

You cannot have more than 2 NRL/RU tenants at a stadium as the ground itself cannot take it. SWS has a limit of 2 games in a day or 3 on a weekend for most of the season.
Whilst it may be great for the spectators concentrating clubs in stadiums could lead to substandard surfaces which could lead to moving games back to suburban venues.

 

[Stallion]

You derricks all seem to be forgetting Shark Park is going to be updated. It won’t be BankWest status but it’ll be a nice boutique ground.

Will the capacity increase? That would be handy. Be great if it could accomodate 25000!

 

[forby]

Nothing is going to happen at Shark park except a new leagues club. No games for 2 years and nothing to show for it.

 

[Mr Angry]

Nothing is going to happen at Shark park except a new leagues club. No games for 2 years and nothing to show for it.

Liar, or just know nothing.

 

[AnonymousLurker]

Between the 3 new stadiums (assuming we arent about to get f*cked over on SFS or ANZ) we have already solved the majority of Sydney games...

Parra are committed to WSS. Souths and Dogs will jump between WSS and the new ANZ. I think the Tigers will move to a 2-2-8 set-up (Campbeltown - Leichhardt - WWS) when they see how much larger their WWS are. Dragons, as well, will probably begin to move more games to one of these central stadiums as crowds pick up.

As usually, the 3 problems are Panthers, Sharks and Sea Eagles.
- Penrith are fine, i guess. Theyre 50k away from the CBD so they are pretty much a regional town.
- Sharks will send themselves broke again i expect, and this time they wont be able to flog off assets
- Manly are being inexplicable babies about Gosford. By all measures, they should be playing at least some of their games there. They draw great crowds and they actually a chance of getting gov. money to build it further.

You are completely wrong about tigers
They will play 2-2-2- 1-1-1-1-1-1-1

Liechard
Campbelltown
Bankwest ,
Sfs
SCG
ANZ
Gosford
Perth
Brisbane magic round

This is the club that has had 4 home grounds previously in the one year

 

[Perth Red]

A lot of these grounds are no longer one tenant grounds. Kogarah Oval is the home of the FFA now (and the Cronulla Sharks for a few seasons coming up) and along with Leichhardt Oval is the home for Sydney FC while the SFS is renovated. Leichhardt Oval also plays host to the majority of the important NSWRL games, as well as NRC games in the past. Campbelltown Stadium and Penrith Park host Western Sydney Wanderers games. Calling these grounds one tenant grounds is ignorant at best, and deliberately misleading at its worst.

No one is going to invest $150mill in a ground with one tenant and nsw Cup games or an occasionalAleague game. You need 2-3 major tenants to get a decent return and pay its maintenance and depreciation.

 

[Perth Red]

You cannot have more than 2 NRL/RU tenants at a stadium as the ground itself cannot take it. SWS has a limit of 2 games in a day or 3 on a weekend for most of the season.
Whilst it may be great for the spectators concentrating clubs in stadiums could lead to substandard surfaces which could lead to moving games back to suburban venues.

Rubbish, with modern grass technology, modern drainage and dryer winters it really isn’t a problem.

 

[Dark Corner]

The facilities at ANZ are great but as for a ground for viewing football it is just crap. Yes totally agree with you about a proper NFL/ EPL style 80,000 seater.

I blame it on the international dick measuring contest called the Olympics.

 

[Dark Corner]

Between the 3 new stadiums (assuming we arent about to get f*cked over on SFS or ANZ) we have already solved the majority of Sydney games...

Parra are committed to WSS. Souths and Dogs will jump between WSS and the new ANZ. I think the Tigers will move to a 2-2-8 set-up (Campbeltown - Leichhardt - WWS) when they see how much larger their WWS are. Dragons, as well, will probably begin to move more games to one of these central stadiums as crowds pick up.

As usually, the 3 problems are Panthers, Sharks and Sea Eagles.
- Penrith are fine, i guess. Theyre 50k away from the CBD so they are pretty much a regional town.
- Sharks will send themselves broke again i expect, and this time they wont be able to flog off assets
- Manly are being inexplicable babies about Gosford. By all measures, they should be playing at least some of their games there. They draw great crowds and they actually a chance of getting gov. money to build it further.

No its insane Souths should play out of bloody South Sydney and Wests should have one ground and not jump from 3-4 grounds.

 

[Stallion]

No its insane Souths should play out of bloody South Sydney and Wests should have one ground and not jump from 3-4 grounds.

Think Souths should be playing out of the SFS when it's complete . Easts and Souths should be co tenants of that ground. Be good if a major upgrade happened at one of Wests Tigers home grounds to.make either Campbelltown or Leichardt a 25000 capacity ground. That would be great. Same for Cronulla Sutherlandso homeground: should have a capacity of 25000. St George-Illawarra should have one of their grounds at 25000 capacity. Same with Manly Warringah and Penrith! It would be great if the new ARLC chairman has these upgrades in his sights.V'landys has alluded to an ambition in this direction. It would be awesome for this to occur!

 

[Dark Corner]

Think Souths should be playing out of the SFS when it's complete . Easts and Souths should be co tenants of that ground. Be good if a major upgrade happened at one of Wests Tigers home grounds to.make either Campbelltown or Leichardt a 25000 capacity ground. That would be great. Same for Cronulla Sutherlandso homeground: should have a capacity of 25000. St George-Illawarra should have one of their grounds at 25000 capacity. Same with Manly Warringah and Penrith! It would be great if the new ARLC chairman has these upgrades in his sights.V'landys has alluded to an ambition in this direction. It would be awesome for this to occur!

Good post but would love to see a Illawarra and Central Coast get used full time and not just 3-4 games a year ?

 

[TheFrog]

Not overnight but whats the plan? Hope the State Govt finds a few hundred mill to upgrade stadiums it doesn't own? Sounds like a doomed plan to me.

Government is not supposed to be a business. Government is supposed to make its decisions in the interests of all its constituents, not just some of them. It would be perfectly equitable for the NSW Government, having spent billions on stadiums it owns, to make grants for the upgrade of council-owned and club-owned facilities (no doubt in collaboration with the feds), but I have grave doubts the current Government is interested in equity.

 

[veggiepatch1959]

brilliant, but people will still blame the sydney traffic when it gets stuck in grid lock on Parramatta road. That's why it needs to be able to be lifted off the ground using drones.

That rules out games being played in Melbourne.
The stadium will get stuck on the antiquated tram tracks.

 

[veggiepatch1959]

West's ( lidcombe West's not campbelltown )

You forgot Pratten Park....

 

[GongPanther]

Would love to see a 25k Bank West-style stadium north of the Harbour Bridge in the Sydney area.

Brilliant idea because the north would be screaming for one in your area not only for sport, but for concerts,expos,etc. But consider land prices around the Manly district and not to mention the fookwit activists that would make up a FB page in opposition to a stadium. I think those two points are where were it starts and ends.

 

[forby]

Liar, or just know nothing.

So what is going to happen except a new leagues club and a slightly improved eastern side. There is not enough money to do anything else. The capacity will be no better, and any improvements won’t justify 2 years at Kogarah.

 

[forby]

Rubbish, with modern grass technology, modern drainage and dryer winters it really isn’t a problem.

SWS already has this rule in practice. Look at the issues having NRL and Super Rugby at the SFS caused this year. The nature of both codes do not allow any more than this. The WSS surface already has problems in night games as some areas are affected by lack of sunlight and surface moisture even in this period of no rain. Imagine the problems when we get a sustained period of rainfall.

 

[Perth Red]

SWS already has this rule in practice. Look at the issues having NRL and Super Rugby at the SFS caused this year. The nature of both codes do not allow any more than this. The WSS surface already has problems in night games as some areas are affected by lack of sunlight and surface moisture even in this period of no rain. Imagine the problems when we get a sustained period of rainfall.

Even with three tenants you’d only likely get two games a week, given games are spread out thur-sun the odds of back to back over use is very slim and as we see at anz it really isnt a problem with modern blended grass. When was the last time sfs pitch was relaid? Grass has come a long way in last 5 years.

At the very least you’d want two fulltime top tier clubs to justify the investment.

 

[veggiepatch1959]

Dream on Perth.
Next stop Mauritius then Mozambique.

 

[Perth Red]

You can listen to the podcast and find out. I'm not double handling.

No mention of what increased capacity will be, you made me listen to that sht for nothing!

Interesting to hear you’ve lost money again this year, but next year will be ok apparently lol.