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Rabbitohs rumours, signings, injuries etc

callmack1

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I doubt there even is a Press Conference tomorrow. If there was, the media would've been notified by now and it would be public knowledge. That has obviously not happened so I doubt it's true. Who knows though?
 

Peter Quinn

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I doubt there even is a Press Conference tomorrow. If there was, the media would've been notified by now and it would be public knowledge. That has obviously not happened so I doubt it's true. Who knows though?
Apart from that, you and I would know about it by now as well. GO THE PRESS CONFERENCES!!!!!!
 

Peter Quinn

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I've just found out our captain Sam Burgess might be in a spot of trouble over an apparent assault on Pheobies dad. I'm hoping it's not true and someone is pulling the piss out of me.
 
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handyman2190

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Having to turn up at court wednesday to fight the application of an AVO phebes father is trying to put on sam so he cant visit his kids.
Snobbish upthemselves and childish,is how i would describe them
 

Peter Quinn

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The only thing Sam is guilty of is loving his wife and kids too much. I don't know about the assault part but I have doubts about it.
 

callmack1

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Peter Quinn

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It's there for all to see. Sam is at his happiest when he's around Pheobie and the kids. He's not a bad person to her in fact he's great to her. I'm just hoping the fact everyone wants to meet Sam when they are out isn't upsetting her for whatever reason.
A certain section of the media, anti Sam, are reporting Sam went out on the town drinking the night they split up again. You don't have to be Einstein to work out if he did it was because he was hurting and not celebrating like the fools are saying.
 

Souths Till I Die

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I hope as a club we stick by Sam. It seems as if he’s battling some pretty big mental demons as well as dealing with all this shit. It’s been a pretty big fall from grace over the last year for the big fella. For me Sam is one of the greatest signings this club has made in the past decade, up there with GI and for us to discard him now would be pretty disappointing especially because I don’t think he’s finished as a player.
 

callmack1

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I hope as a club we stick by Sam. It seems as if he’s battling some pretty big mental demons as well as dealing with all this shit. It’s been a pretty big fall from grace over the last year for the big fella. For me Sam is one of the greatest signings this club has made in the past decade, up there with GI and for us to discard him now would be pretty disappointing especially because I don’t think he’s finished as a player.
Couldn't agree more mate, you don't discard a legend like him. As a club and as fans, we must stick by him and support him through everything.
 

callmack1

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Here's an article from the Telegraph, it doesn't sound great.

The man who will determine the South Sydney Rabbitohs’ premiership hopes over the next three years is not supercoach Wayne Bennett.
It is more likely to be Richard Gardham. Richard who?

He is the NRL’s chief salary cap auditor and a former accountant at Deloitte who will make the decision on whether Sam Burgess can be medically retired with his shoulder injury without affecting the club’s salary cap.

This would allow the Rabbitohs to chase a potential superstar like David Fifita by freeing up Burgess’s $1.2 million a year salary ($3.6 million while he is contracted for the next three years.

There have been situations in the past (Brett Stewart at Manly and Anthony Watmough at Parramatta) when the NRL ruled they had to stay in the salary cap despite career- ending injuries like the one Burgess potentially has.

There were questions already being asked about the Rabbitohs earlier this year when Greg Inglis retired and the NRL ruled the club could get cap relief.

So we checked out the NRL rules. If a player medically retires, a club must apply to the NRL to seek salary cap relief. There are a couple of stipulations. The salary cap auditor must then study medical records and evidence to determine:

a) The player, at the time of termination, was diagnosed as medically unfit to currently continue to train and play elite-level contact sport and was medically unable to ever return to play elite-level contact sport due to the current level of disability or the significant risk of further disabling injury as a result of playing elite level contract sport.
b) The player had no similar injury or medical condition to that area of the body that either has or could reasonably be predicted medically to lead to a degenerative condition of that area of the body prior to signing his last NRL contract.
Burgess’s last contract was signed towards the end of last year.
The club’s general manager of football, Shane Richardson, said the injury was suffered this year in round five on April 13 against the New Zealand Warriors on the Sunshine Coast. He did it late in the first half but played out the game.

The very strong tip is Burgess will not play again, not that South Sydney will confirm that.

“We’re still going through a process,” Richardson said on Sunday.

“Whatever happens, Sam is entitled to get his money. It’s a matter of whether we get dispensation in the cap if he is forced to retire. We haven’t explored that or gone to the NRL.”

Souths claim to have records proving that in Burgess’s medical, when he signed in 2018, there was no indication of the shoulder problem that is forcing him out of the game.

“It definitely wasn’t a pre-existing injury,” Richardson said.

“But we still haven’t given up hope that he will play next year.”

Others claim there is more to the story. Even an acceptance among Souths’ powerbrokers that Sam’s ill-discipline, judiciary record and off-field dramas have become too much.

That they might even be quietly encouraging him to walk away.

A decision will have to be made sooner rather than later. Surely Souths can’t sit back and wait until March for a decision from the NRL. They have a roster to sort out and will need a significant signing to replace the great English forward.
 

Peter Quinn

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I hope as a club we stick by Sam. It seems as if he’s battling some pretty big mental demons as well as dealing with all this shit. It’s been a pretty big fall from grace over the last year for the big fella. For me Sam is one of the greatest signings this club has made in the past decade, up there with GI and for us to discard him now would be pretty disappointing especially because I don’t think he’s finished as a player.
I couldn't imagine Souths discarding Sam. If they did, no one would want to come to the club for twenty years and that's players and fans.
 

Peter Quinn

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Here's an article from the Telegraph, it doesn't sound great.

The man who will determine the South Sydney Rabbitohs’ premiership hopes over the next three years is not supercoach Wayne Bennett.
It is more likely to be Richard Gardham. Richard who?

He is the NRL’s chief salary cap auditor and a former accountant at Deloitte who will make the decision on whether Sam Burgess can be medically retired with his shoulder injury without affecting the club’s salary cap.

This would allow the Rabbitohs to chase a potential superstar like David Fifita by freeing up Burgess’s $1.2 million a year salary ($3.6 million while he is contracted for the next three years.

There have been situations in the past (Brett Stewart at Manly and Anthony Watmough at Parramatta) when the NRL ruled they had to stay in the salary cap despite career- ending injuries like the one Burgess potentially has.

There were questions already being asked about the Rabbitohs earlier this year when Greg Inglis retired and the NRL ruled the club could get cap relief.

So we checked out the NRL rules. If a player medically retires, a club must apply to the NRL to seek salary cap relief. There are a couple of stipulations. The salary cap auditor must then study medical records and evidence to determine:

a) The player, at the time of termination, was diagnosed as medically unfit to currently continue to train and play elite-level contact sport and was medically unable to ever return to play elite-level contact sport due to the current level of disability or the significant risk of further disabling injury as a result of playing elite level contract sport.
b) The player had no similar injury or medical condition to that area of the body that either has or could reasonably be predicted medically to lead to a degenerative condition of that area of the body prior to signing his last NRL contract.
Burgess’s last contract was signed towards the end of last year.
The club’s general manager of football, Shane Richardson, said the injury was suffered this year in round five on April 13 against the New Zealand Warriors on the Sunshine Coast. He did it late in the first half but played out the game.

The very strong tip is Burgess will not play again, not that South Sydney will confirm that.

“We’re still going through a process,” Richardson said on Sunday.

“Whatever happens, Sam is entitled to get his money. It’s a matter of whether we get dispensation in the cap if he is forced to retire. We haven’t explored that or gone to the NRL.”

Souths claim to have records proving that in Burgess’s medical, when he signed in 2018, there was no indication of the shoulder problem that is forcing him out of the game.

“It definitely wasn’t a pre-existing injury,” Richardson said.

“But we still haven’t given up hope that he will play next year.”

Others claim there is more to the story. Even an acceptance among Souths’ powerbrokers that Sam’s ill-discipline, judiciary record and off-field dramas have become too much.

That they might even be quietly encouraging him to walk away.

A decision will have to be made sooner rather than later. Surely Souths can’t sit back and wait until March for a decision from the NRL. They have a roster to sort out and will need a significant signing to replace the great English forward.
I read that stipulations from NRL for relief from cap. There's one thing I'd like to know.
Did the NRL at any stage get opinions and advice from doctors and specialists in regards to changing the shoulder rule in a heavy body contact sport like Rugby League? Lifting the arm, bending the arm or wrapping the arm around in front before making the tackle, naturally places the bones under heavy pressure because they are no longer guarded by shoulder muscle. There are a lot of players with shoulder injuries and there are many more coming. It's important these rule changes be thoroughly examined by specialists before the rule is changed. And I'll tell you now, the NRL will be soon sued by every player who suffered a head injury because they were not told they must wear head gear. Even after all this extra knowledge coming out about head injuries and concussions, they still chose to do absolutely nothing at all to fix it. A bit like the referees nonsense. They done nothing there either.
 
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Travitoh

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I read that stipulations from NRL for relief from cap. There's one thing I'd like to know.
Did the NRL at any stage get opinions and advice from doctors and specialists in regards to changing the shoulder rule in a heavy body contact sport like Rugby League? Lifting the arm, bending the arm or wrapping the arm around in front before making the tackle, naturally places the bones under heavy pressure because they are no longer guarded by shoulder muscle. There are a lot of players with shoulder injuries and there are many more coming. It's important these rule changes be thoroughly examined by specialists before the rule is changed. And I'll tell you now, the NRL will be soon sued by every player who suffered a head injury because they were not told they must wear head gear. Even after all this extra knowledge coming out about head injuries and concussions, they still chose to do absolutely nothing at all to fix it. A bit like the referees nonsense. They done nothing there either.

Headgear doesn't actually prevent concussion, it only lowers the likelihood of it happening.
What the NRL will be sued for (if they are) is not doing enough to prevent players being hit in the head, causing concussion.
Prevention should always be considered before personal protective equipment.
 

Peter Quinn

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Headgear doesn't actually prevent concussion, it only lowers the likelihood of it happening.
What the NRL will be sued for (if they are) is not doing enough to prevent players being hit in the head, causing concussion.
Prevention should always be considered before personal protective equipment.
Yes, then there archoniod cysts and hydrocephalus.
 
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