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Souths Till I Die

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Has any team ever won the premiership after winning a pre-season tournament ?

I don’t think so. The roosters won the last Auckland 9’s competition though in 2017 and went on to win the 2018 and 2019 premierships. So I guess that kind of counts?!

The roosters also sent over a squad full of juniors that year with only a couple of senior players in Guerra, Aubusson and Tupou. I think the sweet spot for this tournament is exactly that. Send a couple of experienced players over but mostly fill the squad with juniors who haven’t had a shot at NRL yet. That’s what the 9’s should all be about to be honest. Showcasing up and coming talent. Plus I used to love playing touch so I quite enjoy the format being that it’s more of a wingers game than anything.
 

assess5

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From the Daily Telegraph,

South Sydney ready to active second year on Latrell Mitchell contract

Not wanting a repeat of the drawn-out saga that eventually led him to Redfern, South Sydney have already seen enough of Latrell Mitchell at fullback to know what they need to do.

South Sydney are looking to avoid a repeat of Latrell Mitchell’s contract circus over summer by locking in the second year of his contract before the NRL season kicks off.

The Rabbitohs have an option in their favour with Mitchell for next season which doesn’t have to be activated until April, but they don’t want contract discussions to distract their star recruit and have started talks with his new management.

In less than two weeks, Mitchell will run out for the Indigenous All Stars in his new position of fullback and the word coming out of Redfern is that he is looking every bit as menacing as the wrecking machine who once wore the No.1 jumper, Greg Inglis.

Despite concerns about Mitchell’s fitness and endurance levels after he missed a large chunk of the pre-season, Souths insiders say he is looking every bit a natural fullback at training. And with his size and athleticism, he is going to cause plenty nightmares in the coming months.

Mitchell’s agent Matt Rose said the former Rooster was loving his new life at Souths and extremely motivated by the challenge ahead.

“He has really knuckled down and he is really looking forward to this,” Rose said.

“Latrell is like that. Once he gets things sorted, he gets in and gets going. And this is really exciting for him.”

Mitchell’s late start to pre-season training means it will take some time for his fitness levels to reach where they need to be to master the extra workload at fullback.

Rabbitohs coach Wayne Bennett is planning to manage the situation by not playing Mitchell at fullback for the full 80 minutes during the early rounds of the competition.

However, Rose said Mitchell was more than ready for the next chapter of his career considering he has already won two premierships and represented NSW and Australia at the age of 22.

“The thing is, he knows he has a big opportunity here,” Rose said. “It requires a very different mindset to his last couple of years (playing in the centres).

“He will be running a lot more and his game will definitely change. But I only think it can be good for him. We know that he has the ability to do it and he just has to get in and get it done.

“If you have a think about it, it is the hardest position on the field. You are needed in defence and attack and in both of those there is a lot of pressure.

“I know the challenge for him is big, but I know it is something he is excited about. He wants to make it.”
boy, that is one bullshit article.....
 

RobbyP189

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I don’t think so. The roosters won the last Auckland 9’s competition though in 2017 and went on to win the 2018 and 2019 premierships. So I guess that kind of counts?!

The roosters also sent over a squad full of juniors that year with only a couple of senior players in Guerra, Aubusson and Tupou. I think the sweet spot for this tournament is exactly that. Send a couple of experienced players over but mostly fill the squad with juniors who haven’t had a shot at NRL yet. That’s what the 9’s should all be about to be honest. Showcasing up and coming talent. Plus I used to love playing touch so I quite enjoy the format being that it’s more of a wingers game than anything.
It's got to be same year ! there were a lot of pre season tournaments in the 80s , just wondering if the Eel's or the Doggies might have done something. My point is that it doesn't matter if we win or not , we are after bigger fish .
 

callmack1

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Souths rumoured to be going after Herman Ese’ese in a player swap deal with the Knights.
Personally, I would love that!! He is a young, aggressive forward that still has his best years ahead of him. In my opinion, he would slot straight into the 17. So yea, I'd be all for it depending on who it is we trade.
 

Rabbits20

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The no name South Sydney forwards who will share the workload when Cam Murray moves to an edge

After missing out on Jai Arrow, the question now is whether Wayne Bennett is making a major tactical mistake shifting Cameron Murray given the Rabbitohs genuine lack of forward depth. But could it save Souths?


Paul Crawley , The Daily Telegraph

February 12, 2020 6:57pm

DAILYTELEGRAPH.COM.AU7:46


These are the no frills South Sydney forwards who will have to share the workload when Cam Murray moves to an edge.


The reality is the Rabbitohs have had a superstar pack driving their success for the last decade.


But Wayne Bennett won’t have that luxury in 2020.



So he needs to make the most out of what he has left after losing Sam Burgess and John Sutton to retirement, and George Burgess returning to England.


While there is no doubting that Souths have a backline with the firepower of a Ferrari, the majority of names that make up the numbers in the forwards are the footballing equivalent of a tradesman’s ute.


But this is where Bennett’s gamble in moving Murray to an edge could potentially bring out the best in everyone.


Aside from Murray and Test hooker Damien Cook, you just have to look at the reputations leading the charge in the forwards at other clubs like the Roosters, Canberra, Melbourne and Manly to recognise the challenge facing the Rabbitohs.



But the job Murray did playing in the centres in that final round win over the Roosters last year is most likely what would have put this idea in Bennett’s head now that moving him could potentially make Souths a better pack, as well as saving Murray from himself.


One of Bennett’s great strengths as a coach has always been knowing his players’ limits.


Obviously Murray will handle wherever he plays, but this will also allow him to play two vital roles while also conserving some energy along the way.


There is still a considerable lack of experience and depth they will have to overcome if Souths are to be a legitimate threat.


Bennett will start Tom Burgess and Tevita Tatola in the front-row with Liam Knight at lock.


While Burgess has played 139 NRL games, Tatola has only started 19 of 51, and Knight 10 starts in 33 appearances.


Murray will be one edge backrower and Jaydn Su’A the other.


Su’A has that fearsome streak in him and potentially could be the hitman Souths need to make up for the loss of Sam.


But given Su’A only has 39 NRL games behind him, 17 off the bench, the jury is out on that.


No doubt Murray will still play sections in the middle, but the makeup of the bench will be crucial.


The likes of Ethan Lowe, Mark Nicholls, Tom Amone, Keaon Koloamatangi, Bayley Sironen, Kurt Dillon and Ky Rodwell are all in the mix.


Bennett will probably have to call on all these players at some point this year.


While he won’t get a full 25 rounds out of any of them, he could easily get them up for important block periods during different stages of the season.


That will be his best hope of keeping the Bunnies’ forwards up for the duration of the regular season, along with keeping Murray as fresh as he possibly can.


Of the likely bench options Lowe has the most experience with 133 NRL games, while Mark Nicholls has only started in 11 of his 64 NRL games.


The other five players in contention for a bench spot have a total of 14 NRL appearances between them, and all those games playing off the bench.


Amone and Sironen each have five bench appearances, while Dillon has four.


Rodwell and Koloamatangi have no NRL games as yet, although both are considered tremendous talents.


Rodwell has suffered a pre-season elbow injury and it will be touch-and-go to be ready for the start of the season, but Koloamatangi is said to be a genuine shot of claiming a bench spot, as is Sironen.


Koloamatangi missed half the season in Canterbury Cup last year with a shoulder injury but he is a local junior who the club have a huge rap on.


He will be playing in the NRL Nines in Perth this week, while he and Sironen are both expected to play in the trial match next Friday night against Parramatta.


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...e/news-story/ac3cfbe4efdec7e6ce0efabe5df2f1b0
 

Robbie 12

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Ok look I don't really don't like the idea of playing players out of position ... But if it helps Murray ...just thinking will they target him in defence ....didn't know knight was a lock ...his not lock anymore ? Will Murray play 80mins?


QUOTE="Rabbits20, post: 13994155, member: 44018"]The no name South Sydney forwards who will share the workload when Cam Murray moves to an edge

After missing out on Jai Arrow, the question now is whether Wayne Bennett is making a major tactical mistake shifting Cameron Murray given the Rabbitohs genuine lack of forward depth. But could it save Souths?


Paul Crawley , The Daily Telegraph

February 12, 2020 6:57pm

DAILYTELEGRAPH.COM.AU7:46


These are the no frills South Sydney forwards who will have to share the workload when Cam Murray moves to an edge.


The reality is the Rabbitohs have had a superstar pack driving their success for the last decade.


But Wayne Bennett won’t have that luxury in 2020.



So he needs to make the most out of what he has left after losing Sam Burgess and John Sutton to retirement, and George Burgess returning to England.


While there is no doubting that Souths have a backline with the firepower of a Ferrari, the majority of names that make up the numbers in the forwards are the footballing equivalent of a tradesman’s ute.


But this is where Bennett’s gamble in moving Murray to an edge could potentially bring out the best in everyone.


Aside from Murray and Test hooker Damien Cook, you just have to look at the reputations leading the charge in the forwards at other clubs like the Roosters, Canberra, Melbourne and Manly to recognise the challenge facing the Rabbitohs.



But the job Murray did playing in the centres in that final round win over the Roosters last year is most likely what would have put this idea in Bennett’s head now that moving him could potentially make Souths a better pack, as well as saving Murray from himself.


One of Bennett’s great strengths as a coach has always been knowing his players’ limits.


Obviously Murray will handle wherever he plays, but this will also allow him to play two vital roles while also conserving some energy along the way.


There is still a considerable lack of experience and depth they will have to overcome if Souths are to be a legitimate threat.


Bennett will start Tom Burgess and Tevita Tatola in the front-row with Liam Knight at lock.


While Burgess has played 139 NRL games, Tatola has only started 19 of 51, and Knight 10 starts in 33 appearances.


Murray will be one edge backrower and Jaydn Su’A the other.


Su’A has that fearsome streak in him and potentially could be the hitman Souths need to make up for the loss of Sam.


But given Su’A only has 39 NRL games behind him, 17 off the bench, the jury is out on that.


No doubt Murray will still play sections in the middle, but the makeup of the bench will be crucial.


The likes of Ethan Lowe, Mark Nicholls, Tom Amone, Keaon Koloamatangi, Bayley Sironen, Kurt Dillon and Ky Rodwell are all in the mix.


Bennett will probably have to call on all these players at some point this year.


While he won’t get a full 25 rounds out of any of them, he could easily get them up for important block periods during different stages of the season.


That will be his best hope of keeping the Bunnies’ forwards up for the duration of the regular season, along with keeping Murray as fresh as he possibly can.


Of the likely bench options Lowe has the most experience with 133 NRL games, while Mark Nicholls has only started in 11 of his 64 NRL games.


The other five players in contention for a bench spot have a total of 14 NRL appearances between them, and all those games playing off the bench.


Amone and Sironen each have five bench appearances, while Dillon has four.


Rodwell and Koloamatangi have no NRL games as yet, although both are considered tremendous talents.


Rodwell has suffered a pre-season elbow injury and it will be touch-and-go to be ready for the start of the season, but Koloamatangi is said to be a genuine shot of claiming a bench spot, as is Sironen.


Koloamatangi missed half the season in Canterbury Cup last year with a shoulder injury but he is a local junior who the club have a huge rap on.


He will be playing in the NRL Nines in Perth this week, while he and Sironen are both expected to play in the trial match next Friday night against Parramatta.


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...e/news-story/ac3cfbe4efdec7e6ce0efabe5df2f1b0[/QUOTE]
 

Travitoh

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Ok look I don't really don't like the idea of playing players out of position ... But if it helps Murray ...just thinking will they target him in defence ....didn't know knight was a lock ...his not lock anymore ? Will Murray play 80mins?


QUOTE="Rabbits20, post: 13994155, member: 44018"]The no name South Sydney forwards who will share the workload when Cam Murray moves to an edge

After missing out on Jai Arrow, the question now is whether Wayne Bennett is making a major tactical mistake shifting Cameron Murray given the Rabbitohs genuine lack of forward depth. But could it save Souths?


Paul Crawley , The Daily Telegraph

February 12, 2020 6:57pm

DAILYTELEGRAPH.COM.AU7:46


These are the no frills South Sydney forwards who will have to share the workload when Cam Murray moves to an edge.


The reality is the Rabbitohs have had a superstar pack driving their success for the last decade.


But Wayne Bennett won’t have that luxury in 2020.



So he needs to make the most out of what he has left after losing Sam Burgess and John Sutton to retirement, and George Burgess returning to England.


While there is no doubting that Souths have a backline with the firepower of a Ferrari, the majority of names that make up the numbers in the forwards are the footballing equivalent of a tradesman’s ute.


But this is where Bennett’s gamble in moving Murray to an edge could potentially bring out the best in everyone.


Aside from Murray and Test hooker Damien Cook, you just have to look at the reputations leading the charge in the forwards at other clubs like the Roosters, Canberra, Melbourne and Manly to recognise the challenge facing the Rabbitohs.



But the job Murray did playing in the centres in that final round win over the Roosters last year is most likely what would have put this idea in Bennett’s head now that moving him could potentially make Souths a better pack, as well as saving Murray from himself.


One of Bennett’s great strengths as a coach has always been knowing his players’ limits.


Obviously Murray will handle wherever he plays, but this will also allow him to play two vital roles while also conserving some energy along the way.


There is still a considerable lack of experience and depth they will have to overcome if Souths are to be a legitimate threat.


Bennett will start Tom Burgess and Tevita Tatola in the front-row with Liam Knight at lock.


While Burgess has played 139 NRL games, Tatola has only started 19 of 51, and Knight 10 starts in 33 appearances.


Murray will be one edge backrower and Jaydn Su’A the other.


Su’A has that fearsome streak in him and potentially could be the hitman Souths need to make up for the loss of Sam.


But given Su’A only has 39 NRL games behind him, 17 off the bench, the jury is out on that.


No doubt Murray will still play sections in the middle, but the makeup of the bench will be crucial.


The likes of Ethan Lowe, Mark Nicholls, Tom Amone, Keaon Koloamatangi, Bayley Sironen, Kurt Dillon and Ky Rodwell are all in the mix.


Bennett will probably have to call on all these players at some point this year.


While he won’t get a full 25 rounds out of any of them, he could easily get them up for important block periods during different stages of the season.


That will be his best hope of keeping the Bunnies’ forwards up for the duration of the regular season, along with keeping Murray as fresh as he possibly can.


Of the likely bench options Lowe has the most experience with 133 NRL games, while Mark Nicholls has only started in 11 of his 64 NRL games.


The other five players in contention for a bench spot have a total of 14 NRL appearances between them, and all those games playing off the bench.


Amone and Sironen each have five bench appearances, while Dillon has four.


Rodwell and Koloamatangi have no NRL games as yet, although both are considered tremendous talents.


Rodwell has suffered a pre-season elbow injury and it will be touch-and-go to be ready for the start of the season, but Koloamatangi is said to be a genuine shot of claiming a bench spot, as is Sironen.


Koloamatangi missed half the season in Canterbury Cup last year with a shoulder injury but he is a local junior who the club have a huge rap on.


He will be playing in the NRL Nines in Perth this week, while he and Sironen are both expected to play in the trial match next Friday night against Parramatta.


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...e/news-story/ac3cfbe4efdec7e6ce0efabe5df2f1b0

It sounds to me like Knight and Murray will share the lock position, with Murray starting edge to maximise his minutes, similar to how Sam played at the start of 2019.
 

Rabbits20

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Uncertainty surrounds the playing future of 16-year-old South Sydney sensation Joseph Suaalii after he was missing from the Rabbitohs SG Ball side on Saturday.


Matt Logue , The Daily Telegraph
February 15, 2020 7:58pm


Mystery surrounds the playing future of 16-year-old South Sydney sensation Joseph Suaalii after the Rabbitohs decided not to play him in SG Ball this weekend.


Suaalii was set to step up to the under-18s this season after starring in the Harold Matthews ranks in 2019, but he didn’t line up in the club’s opening game against Canterbury at Belmore Oval.


Instead, Souths officials at the ground told The Sunday Telegraph that they have been instructed not to comment about the teen star who scored 15 tries and made an astonishing 84 tackle-breaks in just nine under-16s games as captain.


Joseph Suaalii is counted as one of the sport’s best prospects.


The Rabbitohs are giving Suaalii space to weigh up his future given rugby union are chasing his signature.


New Wallabies coach Dave Rennie met with the 96kg Glenmore Park outside back in Penrith recently.


Rugby Australia views him as a potential recruit for the next World Cup in 2023.


Suaalii attends King’s School in Sydney and plays rugby for the college.


He is contracted at South Sydney until the end of 2021, but the Rabbitohs are looking to upgrade his contract to fend off union.


He has been training with the NRL squad all off-season, but he isn’t eligible for first grade until he turns 18.


It’s understood Suaalii may play in the Jersey Flegg (under 20s) ranks for South Sydney this season.


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...l/news-story/da6040a1f4178db979cfd83dd19e9d8b
 

Souths Till I Die

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Uncertainty surrounds the playing future of 16-year-old South Sydney sensation Joseph Suaalii after he was missing from the Rabbitohs SG Ball side on Saturday.


Matt Logue , The Daily Telegraph
February 15, 2020 7:58pm


Mystery surrounds the playing future of 16-year-old South Sydney sensation Joseph Suaalii after the Rabbitohs decided not to play him in SG Ball this weekend.


Suaalii was set to step up to the under-18s this season after starring in the Harold Matthews ranks in 2019, but he didn’t line up in the club’s opening game against Canterbury at Belmore Oval.


Instead, Souths officials at the ground told The Sunday Telegraph that they have been instructed not to comment about the teen star who scored 15 tries and made an astonishing 84 tackle-breaks in just nine under-16s games as captain.


Joseph Suaalii is counted as one of the sport’s best prospects.


The Rabbitohs are giving Suaalii space to weigh up his future given rugby union are chasing his signature.


New Wallabies coach Dave Rennie met with the 96kg Glenmore Park outside back in Penrith recently.


Rugby Australia views him as a potential recruit for the next World Cup in 2023.


Suaalii attends King’s School in Sydney and plays rugby for the college.


He is contracted at South Sydney until the end of 2021, but the Rabbitohs are looking to upgrade his contract to fend off union.


He has been training with the NRL squad all off-season, but he isn’t eligible for first grade until he turns 18.


It’s understood Suaalii may play in the Jersey Flegg (under 20s) ranks for South Sydney this season.


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...l/news-story/da6040a1f4178db979cfd83dd19e9d8b

This article is stupid. Suaali is being prevented from playing for Souths by Kings because they’re a GPS rugby school. It happens all the time.
 

Souths Till I Die

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How does the school prevent him from doing whatever he wants in his own time?

To be honest I’m not completely sure how it works but I had friends who went to GPS schools who couldn’t play club footy with us. It must be part of like some contractual agreement when they sign up for the school? It’s very common though. I think the schools just want them focusing on playing rugby for them. It’s a pretty competitive competition.
 

Robbie 12

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Scholarship conditions?

I think so, I just looked up the schools website and it says the had a sporting event on the Saturday the 15th ….cricket, basketball, tennis and whole range a water sports as well, I guess his obligations were or are to the school first
 
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