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Bummer - NRL May Be Canceled 2020

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Rich102

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Lion,
I am sure everyone is aware of the threat and is taking an appropriate response.
News from a credible source is far more valuable than the veiled threats suggested in your posts.
Thanks for the warning - now butt out.
 

Iron Lion

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If everyone here wants me gone and not to post anything more I will respect that too.

I have tried my best and am exhausted now too.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Even the Italians still have food shops open Lion. Calm the f**k down. It’s going to be a f**king boring few months. A lot of workplaces will be closed, all events and gatherings will be cancelled, and travel will be restricted. But we’ll still be able to get food and water and pizza deliveries. But provided kiwis stay disciplined very few of us will get sick or die and eventually things will hopefully return to normal.
As for stockpiling water, you’ve still not told us how the taps are going to stop running...
 

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I’ve been watching every major reputable news source. I haven’t been following infowars, Joe Rogan, omgchemtrailswereallgonnadie.com or whatever unsourced crap is being spread by randoms on the internet.
 

JJ

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Well, we've heard a lot of doomsday scenarios, so hard to take them too literally. Stephen Pinker has said this, if you want to change behaviour, convince people - then rational, evidence based constructive approaches are best - not "we're all doomed"... time will tell I guess - as people have said, the key issue at the moment is to restrict so health systems can cope... credible experts seem to differ on the value of 'herd immunity', a vaccine is some way off, but in the North summer isn't...
 

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Well, we've heard a lot of doomsday scenarios, so hard to take them too literally. Stephen Pinker has said this, if you want to change behaviour, convince people - then rational, evidence based constructive approaches are best - not "we're all doomed"... time will tell I guess - as people have said, the key issue at the moment is to restrict so health systems can cope... credible experts seem to differ on the value of 'herd immunity', a vaccine is some way off, but in the North summer isn't...

There is no herd immunity for this.

The only solution possible is it burns out totally or a miracle vaccine.

The vaccine is 2 years away due to the mutations this virus has gone through. 43 mutations as of 2 weeks ago.

The even bigger problem which has not been openly reported is it seems likely different countries have different strains.

Massive implications there if you can connect the dots.

Even at this stage, I hope you can see the sensibility of assuring you have provisions to last a while.

We are almost at a critical stage now.
 

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Continue on...

i will. I’ll make sure I have a few weeks supply of food at home, I’ll self isolate and watch Netflix for the next fortnight after travelling and if I get sick I won’t panic, I’ll just self isolate again. I’m 45 and super healthy, I’ll be able to ride it out. The main concern I have is my 75 year old mum getting sick (I’d say she’s a >10% chance of dying if she gets it) and whether I’ll still have a job in a couple of months.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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Clearly there are different strains of the virus.

We've already seen strains that grow exclusively on a pasta based diet and ones that grow on rice.

By the end of the week expect the shrimp industry to be shut down and Australia to ban the use of barbeques.

We're through the looking glass people.
 

Iron Lion

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i will. I’ll make sure I have a few weeks supply of food at home, I’ll self isolate and watch Netflix for the next fortnight after travelling and if I get sick I won’t panic, I’ll just self isolate again. I’m 45 and super healthy, I’ll be able to ride it out. The main concern I have is my 75 year old mum getting sick (I’d say she’s a >10% chance of dying if she gets it) and whether I’ll still have a job in a couple of months.

Good, stay safe. Putting away a little extra wont hurt.
 

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There is no herd immunity for this.

The only solution possible is it burns out totally or a miracle vaccine.

The vaccine is 2 years away due to the mutations this virus has gone through. 43 mutations as of 2 weeks ago.

The even bigger problem which has not been openly reported is it seems likely different countries have different strains.

Massive implications there if you can connect the dots.

Even at this stage, I hope you can see the sensibility of assuring you have provisions to last a while.

We are almost at a critical stage now.
I guess you should outline your credentials given you're claiming facts... clearly many experts think herd immunity is viable, and many disagree - personally I don't know, nor do I know how to evaluate the credibility of senior academics in this specialised field that disagree... but your statement (and panic) are well down the list of sources I value...

Just keep it real - these are your recommendations, and your views - not facts...
 

Iron Lion

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I guess you should outline your credentials given you're claiming facts... clearly many experts think herd immunity is viable, and many disagree - personally I don't know, nor do I know how to evaluate the credibility of senior academics in this specialised field that disagree... but your statement (and panic) are well down the list of sources I value...

Just keep it real - these are your recommendations, and your views - not facts...

Once I get something wrong. Until I get something wrong I would advise you to prepare.
 

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I still don't get the food scarcity thing. Even if the government put us in lockdown, they won't close off food supplies. They've already said that the travel ban has no effect on imports or exports. Even if imports stopped, NZ grows quite a lot of our own food. Maybe we lose some variety but food still exists. The government isn't going to let the country starve.

And if it came down to a choice between avoiding the virus and starving or getting the virus and living, we'd just get the virus and take our chances. Unless you're very old or already sick, the fatality rate isn't that bad. Certainly better than letting your family starve to death.

Even with the dry summer, water reservoirs are 75% full here in AKL. Water isn't going to stop coming out of the taps (or stop raining from the sky) become some people have a respiratory virus.

The fear-mongering stockpile-ists are just nuts.

Events will be cancelled. Jobs will get harder for some people. Tourism industries and others will really suffer. Supermarkets will remain open, and even if they didn't their online ordering and delivery will. Then after a while, things will return to normal. This isn't a post-apocalyptic sci-fi novel. COVID-19 simply isn't that deadly.
 

JJ

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Once I get something wrong. Until I get something wrong I would advise you to prepare.
to be fair your track record on correctness in this forum isn't good - so there's a credibility issue to overcome
 

Iron Lion

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I still don't get the food scarcity thing. Even if the government put us in lockdown, they won't close off food supplies. They've already said that the travel ban has no effect on imports or exports. Even if imports stopped, NZ grows quite a lot of our own food. Maybe we lose some variety but food still exists. The government isn't going to let the country starve.

And if it came down to a choice between avoiding the virus and starving or getting the virus and living, we'd just get the virus and take our chances. Unless you're very old or already sick, the fatality rate isn't that bad. Certainly better than letting your family starve to death.

Even with the dry summer, water reservoirs are 75% full here in AKL. Water isn't going to stop coming out of the taps (or stop raining from the sky) become some people have a respiratory virus.

The fear-mongering stockpile-ists are just nuts.

Events will be cancelled. Jobs will get harder for some people. Tourism industries and others will really suffer. Supermarkets will remain open, and even if they didn't their online ordering and delivery will. Then after a while, things will return to normal. This isn't a post-apocalyptic sci-fi novel. COVID-19 simply isn't that deadly.

There is little to no food packaging left. That is one issue as it comes from China.

I understand one of New Zealand biggest food suppliers sent out an email to its partners today advising no more orders can be accepted.

Also, your water point is short-sighted. Water reserves are there but there is a bigger problem arising from that sector.
 
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