News Coronavirus and NRL

[franklin2323]

I have worked away from home for the last 15 years, usually on a 4 weeks on 1 off roster. I am currently in Victoria 3weeks into a 6 week stint. It is shit but you have to do what have to do. They need to man up. A few years ago there would have been over 100 000 people in the same boat, so it's not asking too much of them if they want to continue on their current career path.

Even if it is 6 months. Still only temporary

 

[Perth Red]

It would be f**king mint! Ratings would be massive

Play it boxing day, would rate its arse off!

 

[Springs09]

I have worked away from home for the last 15 years, usually on a 4 weeks on 1 off roster. I am currently in Victoria 3weeks into a 6 week stint. It is shit but you have to do what have to do. They need to man up. A few years ago there would have been over 100 000 people in the same boat, so it's not asking too much of them if they want to continue on their current career path.

The original Kangaroo Tours would go for 5-7 months. Even now they can go away for 2 months. They can't have it both ways, either it shuts down and they get big pay cuts, or they play on in some way.

 

[wibble]

The current restrictions are expected to be in place for 6 months!

There are plenty alternative ice arenas that they can use. So no, that isn't the reason.

More likely because the US president who had been continually telling everyone it was not serious and that it was under control has no admitted that the outbreak could last until July/August - describing it as "really bad".

In fact, prior to shutting down - the two teams who would have played in empty arenas do not share venues with NBA teams.

Wasn't suggested, the PM said anything we implemented will need to be kept for 6 months, the Chief Medical Officer then backed that up!

You lot, and that President and PM you speak of, need to take a chill pill and CTFD.

You're a bunch of panic merchants, suggesting we could have restrictions for 6 months.

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[wibble]

This is the danger with sports continuing.

On top of that, it's also why restricting testing to very strict criteria (Travelled overseas, come in contact with confirmed case, AND symptoms) whilst not locking down will have limited effect.

The argument that we keep schools open because they did in Singapore is absurd because we are not even remotely close to the rest of their prevention implementation which had the real effect. This includes:

• Implemented travel restrictions whilst WHO suggested travel bans were not necessary.
• Significant testing - they detect 3x the global average, test all influenza-like and pneumonia cases. These tests were also free
• Rigorous detection - they leave no stone unturned in contact tracing. It's a 24/7 process that includes patient interviews, police, flight manifests, and tests for antibodies that linger after infection clears.
• Clear communications - They advertised on the front page of the largest newspaper with clear instructions. Anyone with even mild symptoms were told to see a doctor for testing and refrain from going to school or work.
• Government implemented less onerous quarantine - self employed were given $100 Singapore dollars per day, while employers could not detract quarantine days from staff leave.

And in Singapore they temperature test all staff and students at least twice a day.

On top of that, Singapore has effectively been in the containment phase of an epidemic while we left that a week or two ago.

And the Singapore people are about the most community minded in the world, not likely to risk others if given clear instructions on how to social distance.

And they are one small city of 5 million (similar size to Sydney, yes, but much smaller geographically).

They are just starting the exponential growth too now, and even with their much better testing, contact tracing, and compliant isolation, they may now consider closing schools as they leave the containment stage...except they are already closed for the holidays.

In two weeks time it will be meaningless to see if Singapore allow students back in school, as they will either have exploded into exponential growth like we have (in which case they won't open schools) or will have it contained (unlike us), so schools can stay open.

Comparing us to Singapore is terrible on so many levels.

Meanwhile, in two weeks our schools absolutely will be closed, despite what the PM says now, as we will be hitting the dangerous rate of infection that overwhelms health resources (we may have a Scandinavian style open schools system for a reduced number of students to relieve pressure on essential services workers).

 

[simmo05]

Play it boxing day, would rate its arse off!

Yep, a day of cricket, then origin 1

 

[wibble]

Wrong on both counts. there is no proof that the spanish soccer players got the virus from competing. More likely got it from the general community. Keeping elite sports going makes more sense as its a more controlled environment. (although it could be logically construed that by playing soccer you are soft and more open to catching disease )

Same goes for schools, keep schools open then you control the interactions for most of the day for the kids. Close school and most the kids will be out and about in an uncontrolled/monitored fashion.

I don't know what you did as a kid, but I went out and about in the community much more in my 20s than I ever did as a kid.

That argument about "kids at the mall" is just silly. At school, they mix with hundreds (sometimes thousands) of other kids, jammed closely into classrooms with 20 or 30 others, for 5 hours at a day. The "control" over their interactions within a small room would shock you...but needless to say they won't be keeping 1.5 m apart.

In a mall, they won't all be there at once, they won't be jammed together, and they won't be there for hours.

And now with further restrictions in place for all of us, there's a bunch of things, like going to cinemas, none of us are likely to do for a while, including school kids.

But that "fact" was mentioned by the PM as part of why schools should stay open. It comes from the epidemiological model that he is using, based on the same idea the UK government is using (he said he was "talking with" Boris Johnson). He has misquoted it, either deliberately to turn down the heat on himself, or as I suspect, because he doesn't really understand the model his science people are using.

That model suggests there will be an increase in intrahousehold infections if schools close, if taken as a measure apart from other social isolation measures. Which is kind of what I think Morrison was trying to say, but instead he said closing schools would increase infections, which as an overall result is wrong, based on the model he is using.

But the model suggests closing schools is absolutely necessary, just as part of a cyclical response to infection rates that tries to balance rates out so as to not overwhelm medical resources, but also to not make herd immunity impossible. It is a bold strategy. I don't know if it can work or not. No one really does, as this is uncharted territory. Those people still calling me a panic merchant will be happy to know that strategy calls for rolling economic and social restrictions for...two years! I'm hoping if we go that way we will have a vaccine long before then.

But as part of the strategy the PM needs to say schools have to shut, at some point, and is going to look silly for saying that will increase infection rates.

 

[GongPanther]

Yep, a day of cricket, then origin 1

Hey!! You pinched my AV. ( I'm the one on the left)

 

[moffla]

Origin on cup day eve would be a good rating win.

 

[Someguy]

Cool so Jazz Tevanga is going to come to Australia and isolate for 2 weeks in his hotel before playing. Never mind he needs intensive gym and physio work to come back from injury. NRL is just taking the piss now

 

[Someguy]

I don't know what you did as a kid, but I went out and about in the community much more in my 20s than I ever did as a kid.

That argument about "kids at the mall" is just silly. At school, they mix with hundreds (sometimes thousands) of other kids, jammed closely into classrooms with 20 or 30 others, for 5 hours at a day. The "control" over their interactions within a small room would shock you...but needless to say they won't be keeping 1.5 m apart.

In a mall, they won't all be there at once, they won't be jammed together, and they won't be there for hours.

And now with further restrictions in place for all of us, there's a bunch of things, like going to cinemas, none of us are likely to do for a while, including school kids.

But that "fact" was mentioned by the PM as part of why schools should stay open. It comes from the epidemiological model that he is using, based on the same idea the UK government is using (he said he was "talking with" Boris Johnson). He has misquoted it, either deliberately to turn down the heat on himself, or as I suspect, because he doesn't really understand the model his science people are using.

That model suggests there will be an increase in intrahousehold infections if schools close, if taken as a measure apart from other social isolation measures. Which is kind of what I think Morrison was trying to say, but instead he said closing schools would increase infections, which as an overall result is wrong, based on the model he is using.

But the model suggests closing schools is absolutely necessary, just as part of a cyclical response to infection rates that tries to balance rates out so as to not overwhelm medical resources, but also to not make herd immunity impossible. It is a bold strategy. I don't know if it can work or not. No one really does, as this is uncharted territory. Those people still calling me a panic merchant will be happy to know that strategy calls for rolling economic and social restrictions for...two years! I'm hoping if we go that way we will have a vaccine long before then.

But as part of the strategy the PM needs to say schools have to shut, at some point, and is going to look silly for saying that will increase infection rates.

rejoice! the Casino will be exempt from gatherings restrictions

 

[Wily Ole Dog]

Cool so Jazz Tevanga is going to come to Australia and isolate for 2 weeks in his hotel before playing. Never mind he needs intensive gym and physio work to come back from injury. NRL is just taking the piss now

What’s so hard about that?

 

[AJB1102]

Great.

Now who can their family members be in contact with?

What happens when one of the kids picks it up at school?

Most would be digging holes and moving furniture if it wasn't for an NRL career. You reap the benefits of a massive salary, you also take extra measures to ensure it.

If NRL gets canned, my fox subscription follows and the player's income is next.

Keep making a buck as long as you can.

 

[AJB1102]

I'd tell them to get absolutely, totally and completely f**ked. You cant isolate an entire team away from their family. No f**king way im letting my workplace keep me away from my wife and kids just so their wheels can keep turning.

Then we thank you for your contributions to this organisation and wish you well in whatever it is you do for a career moving forward.

 

[wibble]

Maybe while we aren't quite overloaded, the NRL should rush every player into a room with a confirmed coronavirus case and make sure all the players get it. Then they can suspend the competition for a few weeks, and then all the recovered players can happily play knowing it won't come back (hopefully...).

Of course, there might be a few complications and ethical issues with this strategy...

 

[AJB1102]

The NRL and local governments are still talking like it will blow over now a few token things have been done. It won't.

People here are still not convinced there is much of a threat and call some of the media "alarmist".

Things have already changed rapidly here in two days, so there is still hope they will further change, and we won't be like Italy (or Spain in a week).

The NRL season will be severely disrupted. If that is the biggest thing you have to worry about this year you are very lucky.

The season may run without crowds, even with NZ Warriors stuck here for a week or two, for a little while. I can imagine the NRL redoing the draw so that they get a bunch of away matches early, and they can go back home in a month or two when it "all blows over". But it won't blow over, any time soon.

South Korea and Japan, and even China do give us hope. We won't have months of peak Italy and Iran if we get social distancing right, very soon (like, this week, or as I predict, next week). But the hope they give us is not of a smooth experience where we can just go back to watching footy. We will be stuck inside for months. There will not be public things at all. You will be allowed to go to the shops and chemists, and that is about all.

Hopefully that is how we will live for the next few months. Because the alternative is the horror that is Italy (they too, were laughing at coronavirus and saying it was a hoax, and overblown, just 3 weeks ago. Two weeks ago they tried some soft social distancing measures. Last week, way too late, and you can only go out to get groceries or medicine). Then we will still have these awful lockdown conditions, but with the cold comfort of knowing the extra two weeks of freedom we bought ourselves came at the cost of thousands of people (and will extend the social distancing times at the end by more than this anyway).

This is another glimpse at the horror of Italy:

https://www.newsweek.com/young-unaf...d-you-now-stop-killing-people-opinion-1491797

But in the end, if we do stay isolated, South Korea has shown us that we will have a few months inside with our families, we'll be working from home, where possible, and after an unpleasant pandemic made about as bad as a nasty flu season thanks to social distancing, we should be out enjoying a pleasant spring (ready for another f***ing hot summer...).

Don't worry about footy, I say stock up on PS4/X Box games, and keep your Netflix going for autumn and winter. Maybe the NRL will be able to play a short season in spring.

This guy has all the shit tickets.

 

[AJB1102]

You look across the sporting landscape, the NBA,, NCAA, EPL, Champions League... these are BILLION dollar industries. If they can make the tough decision, then surely we can. RL is not THAT important.

The guy with less money is less likely to be able to afford to take time off.

 

[wibble]

This guy has all the shit tickets.

Plus I'm great fun at parties, apparently.

And yet, a few days later, indoor venues with 100+ are banned. Many casinos, restaurants, cinemas.

And the PM is saying that this is for 6 months. And a 1 in 100 years crisis. Guess he is a hand wringer too.

 

[AJB1102]

Yeah f**k all the old or sick people you are going to come across and kill. You just want your footy, so their lives mean nothing

If you're vulnerable, stay home. Be extra careful.

 

[Springs09]

This guy has all the shit tickets.

Hey, the genius pandemic expert has returned to guide us, you should be rejoicing.