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Question on Peter V'landys

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Spot On

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You worry too much.

Start thinking about how the Titans can avoid 'spending other people's money' by consistently recruiting players that can't tackle and paying them obscene amounts of cash for years and years.
 

Perth Red

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You worry too much.

Start thinking about how the Titans can avoid 'spending other people's money' by consistently recruiting players that can't tackle and paying them obscene amounts of cash for years and years.

sounds like half the clubs in the nrl, but some also throw in millions wasted on sacked coaches and “retried” players!
 

Cactus

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You worry too much.

Start thinking about how the Titans can avoid 'spending other people's money' by consistently recruiting players that can't tackle and paying them obscene amounts of cash for years and years.

Any tangible connection between members of the ARLC and Murdoch is a real concern. An independent commission has to not only be independent but be seen to be independent.
 

Spot On

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Yeah, the ARLC should send robots into negotiations with Murdoch owned media (and any other media players) so as to avoid any miniscule 'tangible connections' between humans working for the ARLC and humans working for News Corp; or any other media org that pays the bills at the NRL.

FFS.

Can the brains trust at LU please outline, in detail, the 'tangible connections' between all ARLC members and media companies for us all to peruse.

You blokes need to worry about clubs giving players like certain ex-Panthers multi year deals on massive money and ruining their cap with dud players - year after year after year.

Then look at the wastage at the NRL on admin and the failure to ensure grassroots/jnr league growth.
 
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Perth Red

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Yeah, the ARLC should send robots into negotiations with Murdoch owned media (and any other media players) so as to avoid any miniscule 'tangible connections' between humans working for the ARLC and humans working for News Corp; or any other media org that pays the bills at the NRL.

FFS.

Can the brains trust at LU please outline, in detail, the 'tangible connections' between all ARLC members and media companies for us all to peruse.

You blokes need to worry about clubs giving players like certain ex-Panthers multi year deals on massive money and ruining their cap with dud players - year after year after year.

Then look at the wastage at the NRL on admin and the failure to ensure grassroots/jnr league growth.

clubs have been spending overs on players since time began, good luck stopping it anytime soon.
At 3.8% the nrl’s admin costs are very low already, what do you think it should be?
Nrl has invested in the women’s game and we’ve seen great growth around the country accordingly. It’s also spending more than any anytime before on grassroots. are you like Gould, want everything to grow but don’t want the nrl to spend money?
 

Cactus

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Yeah, the ARLC should send robots into negotiations with Murdoch owned media (and any other media players) so as to avoid any miniscule 'tangible connections' between humans working for the ARLC and humans working for News Corp; or any other media org that pays the bills at the NRL.

FFS.

Can the brains trust at LU please outline, in detail, the 'tangible connections' between all ARLC members and media companies for us all to peruse.

You blokes need to worry about clubs giving players like certain ex-Panthers multi year deals on massive money and ruining their cap with dud players - year after year after year.

Then look at the wastage at the NRL on admin and the failure to ensure grassroots/jnr league growth.

Nup. We just need less short term interference and influence from News Ltd and more long term independent decision making by the ARLC.

Tangible connections was probably the wrong term. Fiduciary duty is probably a better way to say it.
 

Tweed Titan

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You worry too much.

Start thinking about how the Titans can avoid 'spending other people's money' by consistently recruiting players that can't tackle and paying them obscene amounts of cash for years and years.
I don’t see how my teams incompetence is relevant to V’landys and I am usually their most vocal critic.

Try to keep on topic.
 

Perth Red

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Well Vlandys got his man, out the door that is.
Good luck finding a decent ceo to work with him. Or should I say very much under him!
 

MugaB

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Well Vlandys got his man, out the door that is.
Good luck finding a decent ceo to work with him. Or should I say very much under him!
He wouldn't have pushed todd out now without having a better line up of candidates ready to replace him, Vlandys is a smart operator, the total fact is there isn't too many people who can facilitate deals between fox and nine especially after how nine blew up over todds problem solving efforts in throwing money at issues to get things done, im applauding what he has done so far this year, if NRL HQ was ever going to move forward it needs someone like Vlandys to push them
 

Perth Red

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Must have bonded over a Budweiser on their america jolly

The NRL has undergone significant change over the past week, with former CEO Todd Greenberg stepping down, and V'landys backed interim CEO Andrew Abdo to retain the job in the long-term future.
"Absolutely, Andrew Abdo is a brilliant operator, he's one of the best commercial people I've come across," he said.
"All these revenues the NRL has generated over the past four or five years, Andrew has been front and centre of it.
"We need a commercial operator right at the moment, we need to look at the cost structure, our cost structure for the whole game is not sustainable.
"We need to maintain our revenues, so at the moment I think Andrew is the right man for the role and I think he will drive us forward and it's certainly his to lose."
https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/peter-...b957-4702-a557-dc3ebf3261ee?ocid=Social-NRLFS
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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Must have bonded over a Budweiser on their america jolly

The NRL has undergone significant change over the past week, with former CEO Todd Greenberg stepping down, and V'landys backed interim CEO Andrew Abdo to retain the job in the long-term future.
"Absolutely, Andrew Abdo is a brilliant operator, he's one of the best commercial people I've come across," he said.
"All these revenues the NRL has generated over the past four or five years, Andrew has been front and centre of it.
"We need a commercial operator right at the moment, we need to look at the cost structure, our cost structure for the whole game is not sustainable.
"We need to maintain our revenues, so at the moment I think Andrew is the right man for the role and I think he will drive us forward and it's certainly his to lose."
https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/peter-...b957-4702-a557-dc3ebf3261ee?ocid=Social-NRLFS

Yeh, he's got the job

Does anyone have a video of the guy? I wanna see him speaking
 
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Long before the coronavirus pandemic swung like a wrecking ball through sport, GWS Giants chairman Tony Shepherd warned AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan about another force of nature demolishing everything in its path.

"Don't underestimate Peter V'landys," Shepherd advised. "Rugby league will become a serious competitor with him in charge."

Now, Shepherd is watching V'landys become rugby league's imperial leader during the COVID-19 crisis and sees history repeating.

"Cometh the hour, cometh the man," Shepherd said of the pugnacious ARL Commission chairman.

V'landys thrives on being told he can't do something and then pulling it off. Even better if he can get up Melbourne's nose at the same time.
He's becoming a nasal swab for the AFL, jammed so far up its left nostril it feels like an eyeball is about to pop out as rugby league inches closer to the impossible dream of a May 28 restart.

The AFL chitterati scoffed when V'landys flagged a resumption so soon. Plenty in the NRL thought the same thing, this column included. Even members of Project Apollo argued it would be "better optics" to start in June.

In Melbourne, where newsreaders seemingly mispronounce V'landys' name on purpose, he was slammed for being "premature", "arrogant" and "disrespectful". Club chairmen like Hawthorn's Jeff Kennett lined him up as "totally irresponsible, absolutely irresponsible!"

Now some in the AFL are breaking ranks.

Richmond coach Damien Hardwick applauded the NRL for "aspirational-type leadership", earning a rebuke from Collingwood president Eddie McGuire and Bombers legend Matthew Lloyd.
Others are following.

"So how can we be critical of the NRL for setting a date now in a month's time for wanting to come back and be aspirational?" asked Kane Cornes on Footy Classified.

Regardless of where you stand on the May 28 restart, of this you can be assured: V'landys doesn't care what anyone says.

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Peter V'landys and Gillon McLachlan.CREDIT:DIGITAL IMAGE

Last week, he declared publicly not once but twice that the Australian Border Force had granted the New Zealand Warriors an exemption to enter the country.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison denied this was the case. Not once but twice. "No amount of reporting it will change that decision," Morrison said at his Friday morning media conference.

On Saturday morning, the Warriors were granted the exemption, just as V'landys had promised. On Sunday, they locked down in quarantine in Tamworth. And on Monday, they and the rest of the NRL's 480 players underwent an "education day" about the strict biosecurity protocols they must adhere to if the season is to rebooted.

Meanwhile, in the AFL, it's still in the "bubbles and hubs" stage. Rugby league binned the "bubbles and hubs" idea weeks ago.

The NRL should resist cranking up the victory march quite yet.

For starters, V'landys had an easier task. The AFL is a bigger monster, with teams in every state. Most of them are based in Victoria, where Premier Daniel Andrews has been more cautious than other states in loosening coronavirus restrictions.

It's also been so prudent with its finances over the years, having secured a $600m line of credit against more than $1bn in assets, that it can survive until March next year without playing a minute of footy.

The NRL does not have that luxury. Its mad rush to May 28 is about one thing: money. There wasn't enough put away for a rainy day and when it started pouring in late March it turned out only $120m had been tucked away.

From that moment, V'landys put a flag in the sand and has been bending everything and everyone around it, including prime ministers and premiers.

As he does so, it places increasing pressure on the AFL to get its show started.

Asked if there was some personal satisfaction in getting the jump on the AFL, V'landys told Sports Sunday: "Not all. I haven't even looked at the AFL. Their challenge is greater than us, they've got teams throughout Australia. They have geographical challenges. We just set ourselves our own target date."

Nobody who knows V'landys was buying it.

"Stuff beating the AFL," offered one long-time racing official. "He'd be more worried about beating the rest of the world."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/pe...-as-a-nasal-swab-for-afl-20200504-p54po2.html
 
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Long before the coronavirus pandemic swung like a wrecking ball through sport, GWS Giants chairman Tony Shepherd warned AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan about another force of nature demolishing everything in its path.

"Don't underestimate Peter V'landys," Shepherd advised. "Rugby league will become a serious competitor with him in charge."

Now, Shepherd is watching V'landys become rugby league's imperial leader during the COVID-19 crisis and sees history repeating.

"Cometh the hour, cometh the man," Shepherd said of the pugnacious ARL Commission chairman.

V'landys thrives on being told he can't do something and then pulling it off. Even better if he can get up Melbourne's nose at the same time.
He's becoming a nasal swab for the AFL, jammed so far up its left nostril it feels like an eyeball is about to pop out as rugby league inches closer to the impossible dream of a May 28 restart.

The AFL chitterati scoffed when V'landys flagged a resumption so soon. Plenty in the NRL thought the same thing, this column included. Even members of Project Apollo argued it would be "better optics" to start in June.

In Melbourne, where newsreaders seemingly mispronounce V'landys' name on purpose, he was slammed for being "premature", "arrogant" and "disrespectful". Club chairmen like Hawthorn's Jeff Kennett lined him up as "totally irresponsible, absolutely irresponsible!"

Now some in the AFL are breaking ranks.

Richmond coach Damien Hardwick applauded the NRL for "aspirational-type leadership", earning a rebuke from Collingwood president Eddie McGuire and Bombers legend Matthew Lloyd.
Others are following.

"So how can we be critical of the NRL for setting a date now in a month's time for wanting to come back and be aspirational?" asked Kane Cornes on Footy Classified.

Regardless of where you stand on the May 28 restart, of this you can be assured: V'landys doesn't care what anyone says.

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Peter V'landys and Gillon McLachlan.CREDIT:DIGITAL IMAGE

Last week, he declared publicly not once but twice that the Australian Border Force had granted the New Zealand Warriors an exemption to enter the country.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison denied this was the case. Not once but twice. "No amount of reporting it will change that decision," Morrison said at his Friday morning media conference.

On Saturday morning, the Warriors were granted the exemption, just as V'landys had promised. On Sunday, they locked down in quarantine in Tamworth. And on Monday, they and the rest of the NRL's 480 players underwent an "education day" about the strict biosecurity protocols they must adhere to if the season is to rebooted.

Meanwhile, in the AFL, it's still in the "bubbles and hubs" stage. Rugby league binned the "bubbles and hubs" idea weeks ago.

The NRL should resist cranking up the victory march quite yet.

For starters, V'landys had an easier task. The AFL is a bigger monster, with teams in every state. Most of them are based in Victoria, where Premier Daniel Andrews has been more cautious than other states in loosening coronavirus restrictions.

It's also been so prudent with its finances over the years, having secured a $600m line of credit against more than $1bn in assets, that it can survive until March next year without playing a minute of footy.

The NRL does not have that luxury. Its mad rush to May 28 is about one thing: money. There wasn't enough put away for a rainy day and when it started pouring in late March it turned out only $120m had been tucked away.

From that moment, V'landys put a flag in the sand and has been bending everything and everyone around it, including prime ministers and premiers.

As he does so, it places increasing pressure on the AFL to get its show started.

Asked if there was some personal satisfaction in getting the jump on the AFL, V'landys told Sports Sunday: "Not all. I haven't even looked at the AFL. Their challenge is greater than us, they've got teams throughout Australia. They have geographical challenges. We just set ourselves our own target date."

Nobody who knows V'landys was buying it.

"Stuff beating the AFL," offered one long-time racing official. "He'd be more worried about beating the rest of the world."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/pe...-as-a-nasal-swab-for-afl-20200504-p54po2.html

Someone should let that ink-slinger know that Tasmania is a state.

I like V'landy's based on that article alone. He's gotten up AFL's nose and hates Victoria. What's not to like?
 

Chook Norris

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A specific point in the article I wanted to bring up - people keep saying the AFL has a harder job restarting with teams in 5 states (or territories). The NRL has teams in NSW, QLD, Melbourne, ACT and in another country in NZ.

If anything, with a team across the ditch, we've had it even harder.
 
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