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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

mongoose

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We need stadiums in Canberra, Southern suburbs somewhere and over the bridge somewhere, way before further out west.

Did anyone see Brandy on the League Live Show last week talk about where the SFS should have been built? He said it is a missed opportunity not building it in the middle of Darling Harbour and that could you imagine how popular that would have been if we had done that instead of building it at the Showground?

He also mentioned that there is talk about building one in Canberra right in the city and that would be a fantastic outcome if it were to become a reality. But then he was interrupted and they never really drilled into it at any great length. So typical of these sometimes hopeless pundits of the game.

Even when they know what the best decisions and outcomes are for the game, they rarely make any great noise to help make it happen. I can see Canberra (when it is finally said and done) will be built outside of the city centre unless there is a concerted effort and media driven campaign to pressure that AFL loving polly to building it in the only right place for maximum success.

This to me is slowly going to be like missing out on Darling Harbour or Central Station in Sydney. Our footy pundits love to dissect and debate bad behaviour and controversy all day long, but when it comes to helping advance the game with game changing aspirational ideas and or infrastructure they make very short work of it and quickly move on to controversy or boofhead humour stuff.

They all say that we need to grow our crowds and cite a million different tried and failed methods to do it, then give up since nothing has stuck long term other then individual teams getting a peak when they have a winning team, which is a given. But as we have seen here and overseas, the one true crowd growth generator is the quality of the Stadium, including its shape and its location.

When that is spot on, then crowds are almost guaranteed. Stadiums need to be in city hubs and for our sport built for purpose(rectangular). Anything short of that is pissing in the wind. We need the media to make a hell of a lot of noise and keep it up to make sure Canberra gets its Stadium in the City Centre as it should be, otherwise league will never grow its crowds and AFL wins again.

The Canberra idea has been around for a while. New fully en-closable stadium close to Civic (CBD), would be awesome. I've only been back to canberra a few times since the 90s and it seems like the govt has been making an effort to make it a more vibrant city. A new stadium in Civic would do wonders.
 

The Marshall

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Sydney Football Stadium completion date raises fears for 2022 NRL grand final


Construction of the rebuilt Sydney Football Stadium will not be officially completed until the end of September 2022, raising doubts about whether the venue will be ready for the 2022 NRL grand final.

In an online community forum attended by the Herald, Infrastructure NSW and developer John Holland revealed the updated construction timetable, which will see a "technical completion" in July 2022, but with full completion not scheduled until the end of quarter three, or the end September.

The timeline previously given by the NSW government said the stadium would be completed in July 2022.

Infrastructure NSW and the NRL remain confident the 2022 NRL grand final will be held at the new Sydney Football Stadium, but with the stadium only to be completed a week before rugby league's showpiece event, any delays in construction could cause a major headache.

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The grand final, which is usually held in the first week of October, could be the first official game in the stadium.

The Herald understands that the NRL has been assured by the state government that test events will occur ahead of the stadium's "ribbon-cutting".

"The time between technical completion in July 2022 and the 2022 NRL grand final will be used for testing, commissioning and operational readiness," a spokeswoman for NSW Infrastructure said.

The prospect of delays in the construction schedule appear heightened given Infrastructure NSW also admitted in the community forum there is a possibility of more asbestos being found on the site as works continue.

A small amount of the hazardous material was found late last year, with developer John Holland hiring an occupational hygienist to oversee the site as a result.


Infrastructure NSW would not answer questions about whether the potential uncovering of more asbestos was considered in the updated timeline.

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"A small amount of contaminated material has been found to date, and has been managed in line with the contractor’s remediation action plan," a spokeswoman said.

Infrastructure NSW also said the pandemic will not add further delays to the stadium, despite shift times altered for workers and increased cleaning on site.

"Work is continuing on site and remains on track to be complete in time for the 2022 NRL grand final," a spokeswoman said.


The forum also presented an updated design for the stadium, which included more brick features in an effort the blend into the neighbouring SCG.

On Tuesday, Infrastructure NSW released a statement after the project started piling works, the first major structural works from the project.

"Over 1500 piles will be drilled up to 33 metres into the ground, to support this world-class structure," the statement read.

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According to their timeline, construction on the basement to concourse level is set to begin next month.


Last Thursday, Acting Sports Minister Geoff Lee was adamant the stadium would be delivered on time.

“We want NSW to have the best stadiums in the country and this will be a world-class venue with first-class facilities putting fans closer to the action with the best sightlines,” he said. “The new Sydney Football Stadium will seat all 42,500 fans undercover to guarantee a fantastic spectator experience."

At the end of 2019, the NSW government signed John Holland as the developer with a $99 million blowout to the original budget, with the total cost moving from $830 million to $730 million. The cost also does not include an LED curtain, which clubs say was promised to them at the start of the project.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/sy...for-2022-nrl-grand-final-20200513-p54snx.html
 

Frailty

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To be honest, if the project had a target completion of July 2022, finishing in September 2022 is actually not that bad.
 

TheEroticGamer

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Penrith should get a new stadium, that’s obvious. Anyone that thinks otherwise most likely thinks Penrith is a little street a couple of minutes west of Parra’s cbd. Ludicrous. It doesn’t have to be a super advanced stadium. A 27k stadium would be fine but it has to happen.

But order of necessity would go Canberra first, in civic. None of this epic stuff.

Liverpool doesn’t offer new stadia to anyone that wasn’t marked as beneficiaries from the new stadiums. The new a league team is a part of a comp that is moving more and more towards smaller stadiums and they’ve already let their intentions known to be the same with their Campbelltown refurbishment ambition. Sydney’s south depends on how much Dragons want to commit to the gong. If they’re splitting a lot of their games with Gong and a new south stadium I don’t think Sharks would be fine with playing away from Cronulla even though they’re the only team that plays all their games there. They’d want a Cronulla based stadium if that was the case. Not halfway from each other or in kogragh.

Brookie shouldn’t get a new stadium as its location is trash but it’s getting a stand upgraded apparently so that’s that.
 
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TheEroticGamer

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The state government has already said an outer western Sydney stadium is next. Maybe it will be scrapped, maybe it will be altered. Maybe it already has been changed quietly like SFS’ capacity now going to be 42.5 k from 45k. I don’t know. That’s the Liberals for you.

But, if it stays the same, it will be Penrith vs Liverpool vs BC vs Campbelltown for a new stadium. That’s the reality. When and where the Libs will make it happen. No one has a f***ing clue. It’s been almost two years since a game was played at the SFS and they’re only starting the build now so them building anything anywhere else is optimistic.

Anyway, one last thing to sign off on these essays, f*** the wanderers. Homophobic, pretentious dregs of society that haven’t won shit, supported by Aldi store bought Roma ultras.
 

unforgiven

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Penrith should get a new stadium, that’s obvious. Anyone that thinks otherwise most likely thinks Penrith is a little street a couple of minutes west of Parra’s cbd. Ludicrous. It doesn’t have to be a super advanced stadium. A 27k stadium would be fine but it has to happen.

But order of necessity would go Canberra first, in civic. None of this epic stuff.

Liverpool doesn’t offer new stadia to anyone that wasn’t marked as beneficiaries from the new stadiums. The new a league team is a part of a comp that is moving more and more towards smaller stadiums and they’ve already let their intentions known to be the same with their Campbelltown refurbishment ambition. Sydney’s south depends on how much Dragons want to commit to the gong. If they’re splitting a lot of their games with Gong and a new south stadium I don’t think Sharks would be fine with playing away from Cronulla even though they’re the only team that plays all their games there. They’d want a Cronulla based stadium if that was the case. Not halfway from each other or in kogragh.

Brookie shouldn’t get a new stadium as its location is trash but it’s getting a stand upgraded apparently so that’s that.
Penrith does not have enough tenants to justify a new stadium, an upgrade of the Eastern Stand would be good though.
 

T-Boon

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Penrith does not have enough tenants to justify a new stadium, an upgrade of the Eastern Stand would be good though.

Exactly. Gould screwed up by refusing to have a Penrith WNRL team. That's where you get money spent on stadiums etcetera. That may have tipped the scale enough to get certain upgrades to the stadium.
 

Mr Angry

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I not sure peeps understand who owns these stadiums.

In QLD the State government owns, Lang Park, North Qld and Robina.

In Vic the State government owns, Melbourne Rectangular stadium.

Feds own the one in Canberra

In NSW the State Government owns, SFS, Parramatta, Newcastle, Woollongong, Olympic Park

Penrith, Brookvale, Kogarah, Campbelltown, Leichhardt, Gosford are owned by thier respective councils and have always relied on state and federal government grants for upgrades.

The state government is not going to invest much in these stadiums as they do not profit from them, and like QLD invested much in recent decades, in building up this portfolio of venues.

Shark Park is owned by the Sharks but has also relied on state and federal government grants for upgrades, the current upgrade to a NRL finals compliant is self funded.
 

forby

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Who said Shark Park was beibg upgrade to "finals compliant". Everything I have seen or read saus notthing is being done to upgrade the ground bar some access issues. They have moved for 2 years so the Leagues Club can be redeveloped. They will return to the same ground they left.
 

Mr Angry

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Who said Shark Park was beibg upgrade to "finals compliant". Everything I have seen or read saus notthing is being done to upgrade the ground bar some access issues. They have moved for 2 years so the Leagues Club can be redeveloped. They will return to the same ground they left.
Being NRL finals ready is the point of the exersize.

The upgraded leagues club includes multiple additional corporate boxes. The leagues club and the Peter Burns stand are intergrated. The rest of ground remains untouched. So unique and boutique.

Being NRL finals complaint is not how many plebs can fit into the stands, it how many corporate failicites the NRL can sell - more so already sold.

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That said, this is only early round finals once there are only 4 teams, they want more plebs in the stands.
 
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snogard6

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Exactly. Gould screwed up by refusing to have a Penrith WNRL team. That's where you get money spent on stadiums etcetera. That may have tipped the scale enough to get certain upgrades to the stadium.
Haha. The WNRL will be long forgotten in 5 -10 years
 

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