The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[magpie_man]

Better to have Greenberg there than another AFL stooge.

 

[flippikat]

From the very beginning, VFL didn’t have the class divide. From poor schools to private. From blue collar to white. Everyone’s becomes a part of it and it gets ingrained into the culture which builds year on year.

You could just about say the same for rugby union here in New Zealand.

Yes, there's always been a pretty strong local league scene here - but RU's ability to transcend just about every demographic here is stunning.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

You could just about say the same for rugby union here in New Zealand.

Yes, there's always been a pretty strong local league scene here - but RU's ability to transcend just about every demographic here is stunning.

The All Blacks being a global brand and not being too bad at what they do, helps of course.

 

[bazza]

The All Blacks being a global brand and not being too bad at what they do, helps of course.

Also with NZ being a small country there probably wasn't a lot of money in the local professional rugby league

 

[bazza]

Its not, it’s to have 20k avgS, which will require decent 30k stadiums.

Or decent suburban grounds getting regular crowds between 10 - 15k with 2 big games per year at central venues getting 30k +

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/lo...-same-cloth-says-fittler-20200725-p55fha.html

Fear of Todd
The rugby league community is keeping a close eye on where former NRL boss Todd Greenberg's next job. Not because there is a great love for Greenberg among the clubs or at head office, but because he may still have a big impact on the game.

Greenberg’s name is being linked with just about every senior sporting administration role that becomes vacant. He would dearly love to take over as chief executive of Cricket Australia.
Greenberg has a background in cricket, playing first grade in Sydney where he was renowned as someone who occupied the crease for long periods without actually putting many runs on the board.

Some would say he had a similar reputation at the NRL. He is considered unlikely to be seriously considered for the cricket role.

When Greenberg was seen having a coffee with former Rugby Australia boss Raelene Castle recently it was speculated that he might want to succeed her in Australian sport’s most difficult role. But it is understood he was just catching up with Castle and is not likely to seek that job either.


The most likely option is a role with the agency being set up by the state government to run all major NSW stadiums. And that is why the NRL is holding its breath.

As this column revealed a couple of weeks ago, it was initially thought Greenberg would be given a position on the board of the new super body.
He has the credentials, given he has previously been general manager of Stadium Australia (ANZ). However, there is a growing belief he will be appointed CEO, giving him sweeping powers over the main venues used by rugby league. That includes ANZ Stadium, the new Moore Park stadium, Bankwest at Parramatta and the league stadiums in Newcastle and Wollongong.

Although he fell out with ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys, Greenberg is a professional operator who wouldn’t let that cloud his judgment. However, he and V’landys have totally different views on how money should be spent on upgrading stadiums.

Greenberg oversaw a policy that favoured a few world-class venues with huge capacity, such as the Olympic Stadium. V’landys wants to build a network of small boutique grounds in places such as Leichhardt, Cronulla and Brookvale. V’landys argues that full stadiums look better on TV and will bring home-ground tribalism back to the game.

And Greenberg has that one 100% right. There is no future in having half a dozen suburban grounds, the money isn't there for the upkeep and playing out of them does not take this code to the next level.

Grounds like Parramatta and Townsville are the future and exactly what we should be aiming for. The quicker we make the move the better

 

[Quicksilver]

And Greenberg has that one 100% right. There is no future in having half a dozen suburban grounds, the money isn't there for the upkeep and playing out of them does not take this code to the next level.

Grounds like Parramatta and Townsville are the future and exactly what we should be aiming for. The quicker we make the move the better

so we’ve managed in the semi-pro era but can’t do so going forward?

 

[Suitman]

And Greenberg has that one 100% right. There is no future in having half a dozen suburban grounds, the money isn't there for the upkeep and playing out of them does not take this code to the next level.

Grounds like Parramatta and Townsville are the future and exactly what we should be aiming for. The quicker we make the move the better

So why wasn't he pushing like hell to your Chief Minister to make a city stadium happen in the nations capital?

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

so we’ve managed in the semi-pro era but can’t do so going forward?

You've kinda answered your own question there. We managed in the semi-pro, now we're full pro. The rest of the game has to grow beyond what it is now and it can't do so playing out of sheep paddocks

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

So why wasn't he pushing like hell to your Chief Minister to make a city stadium happen in the nations capital?

The game and our club have been pushing, problem is our Chief Minister is a fumbleball-loving lackey who gives a huge leg-up to the AFL whenever and wherever he can.

 

[Quicksilver]

You've kinda answered your own question there. We managed in the semi-pro, now we're full pro. The rest of the game has to grow beyond what it is now and it can't do so playing out of sheep paddocks

sheep paddocks.
That’s just hyperbole.

 

[Suitman]

The game and our club have been pushing, problem is our Chief Minister is a fumbleball-loving lackey who gives a huge leg-up to the AFL whenever and wherever he can.

Yep. I'm aware of that. Still, enough pressure from the right avenues can pay dividends. Particularly when we have an RL loving Prime Minister who could also chuck some funds in like they did for Townsville.
There are ways and means.

 

[Nqcowboy]

sheep paddocks.
That’s just hyperbole.

Agreed, brookvAle and Leichhardt being the exception but should only need absolute maximum 20 million combined to get both up to scratch ( with most of that going to brookvAle)

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

Yep. I'm aware of that. Still, enough pressure from the right avenues can pay dividends. Particularly when we have an RL loving Prime Minister who could also chuck some funds in like they did for Townsville.
There are ways and means.

There is, but the states/territories also need to the come to the party, and unfortunately ours isn't willing to as yet.

It also doesn't help when we're a safe political seat at both territory and federal level, and neither does the Brumbies' crowds being in free fall or missing out on an A-League license.

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

Agreed, brookvAle and Leichhardt being the exception but should only need absolute maximum 20 million combined to get both up to scratch ( with most of that going to brookvAle)

Lol. You're dreaming

 

[Vee]

Yep. I'm aware of that. Still, enough pressure from the right avenues can pay dividends. Particularly when we have an RL loving Prime Minister who could also chuck some funds in like they did for Townsville.
There are ways and means.

Don't give scomo too much credit for Tsv stadium. The $100m they chucked in was a straight swap for the same amount that was committed for a jobs program up there and was subsequently sent elsewhere. Net new money for the stadium exactly nil, it was all political spin.

 

[forby]

Why does Leichhardt deserve anything? There is no RL played in the area anymore.
Why push to spend money at Brookvale for RU to benefit?
The push should be in RL areas not ex-RL or RU/AFL areas!

 

[unforgiven]

Why does Leichhardt deserve anything? There is no RL played in the area anymore.
Why push to spend money at Brookvale for RU to benefit?
The push should be in RL areas not ex-RL or RU/AFL areas!

Agreed, I'd have to place Penrith in the group to not receive a new stadium as well.

 

[Nqcowboy]

Let’s all play out of two stadiums in Sydney

 

[forby]

Agreed, I'd have to place Penrith in the group to not receive a new stadium as well.

The greatest RL nursery in the world doesn’t deserve a stadium because it doesn’t support other sports? That sounds logical.