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Norman for Jack Bird

possm

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I wouild like the Dragons to swap a poor performing Norman for Jack Bird at the Broncos. Bird would make an ideal left centre and a replacement lock if required. Yes he has his injury problems but our youngsters need to be brought through progressively and time out for injury would suit the grooming of Feagai for sure.
 

redv13

Bench
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I wouild like the Dragons to swap a poor performing Norman for Jack Bird at the Broncos. Bird would make an ideal left centre and a replacement lock if required. Yes he has his injury problems but our youngsters need to be brought through progressively and time out for injury would suit the grooming of Feagai for sure.
Just checking: let’s swap a useless, very expensive sack of potatoes for a player who in the last 3 seasons has played 17 games and had 1 serious shoulder injury and 2 very concerning and season ending ACL knee injuries... your kidding right?? Ha ha April fools, I must of mixed up my calendar dates. Silly old me!!
 

Inisai Toga

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So if this happened and then Bird got injured first up and ruled out for the season, would we then expect Millward to swap him back again with Brisbane...?
 
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be55

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I wouild like the Dragons to swap a poor performing Norman for Jack Bird at the Broncos. Bird would make an ideal left centre and a replacement lock if required. Yes he has his injury problems but our youngsters need to be brought through progressively and time out for injury would suit the grooming of Feagai for sure.
I've got to say possm i really do admire you...you really just let everybody know what's going on in that mind of yours without fear of judgement or kickback...we all have different opinions and this is what makes the world go round....it would be a boring place if we all thought the same...for what it's worth it is a "no" from me...I would just about do anything to get rid of Norman who is nothing more than an uncommitted sloth who masquerades as a rugby league player but the last thing i want to see Is Jack Bird back . Bird is a mercenary who's turned his back on the club before and it's been proven his body isn't up to the rigours of the NRL. Bird doesn't commit to a teams goals, he goes where the money leads him.If you signed him and he did manage to somehow stay on the field ,as soon as he had a better offer he'd be asking for a release. Just my opinion....
 

rasaint

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Must say that speaking generally Jack Bird at his best is a fabulous player.

The sharks were travelling ok in 2016 and then they put Bird at 5/8 from memory and they took off and became serious contenders. He was like Keary to Souths when they won 2014 ( from memory).

However chronic health problems and serious knee shoulder injuries have wrecked him.

Possum’s comment I took as being based on JB coming sufficiently good and getting some clear air from injury. However, that seems remote now. For a base salary under $200k I’d be tempted. I still remember him at his best playing for the sharkies running this way and that ; pushing blokes off and slipping great off loads leading to trys. He definitely had a major influence on the Sharks premiership.

Wonder if Miller’s a legend has same opinion?
 

possm

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I've got to say possm i really do admire you...you really just let everybody know what's going on in that mind of yours without fear of judgement or kickback...we all have different opinions and this is what makes the world go round....it would be a boring place if we all thought the same...for what it's worth it is a "no" from me...I would just about do anything to get rid of Norman who is nothing more than an uncommitted sloth who masquerades as a rugby league player but the last thing i want to see Is Jack Bird back . Bird is a mercenary who's turned his back on the club before and it's been proven his body isn't up to the rigours of the NRL. Bird doesn't commit to a teams goals, he goes where the money leads him.If you signed him and he did manage to somehow stay on the field ,as soon as he had a better offer he'd be asking for a release. Just my opinion....
Yes thank you for your kind words. Even though I don't agree with many views from some members on here, from time to time I would like a post purely because of the thinking outside the box and a genuine effort to put forward a view that may solve a problem.

I doubt that not much of what we say on this forum would be noticed or taken up by those in power at SGI today however, we are a forum for people who support St George Illawarra and debate on here at most times in an enjoyable way.

My thinking is that it is absolutely necessary to get rid of Norman and Hunt who have proven to be playing way below their pay scale. It seems to me that both Norman and Bird have on year to go on their respective contracts and that both players are performing poorly for their current clubs.

Both players may improve their attitude and performance in an environment where there is a change of club with a fresh start. Both will be under no illusion that they will have to perform if they want to remain in demand for season 2022.

More importantly, the Broncos don't need a centre and we could do with a good left centre. Saints do not need a five-eighth if Griffin is our new coach mainly because we have juniors coming through and rumours that Maloney may come with Griffin. But beyond all of this, if Bird can play fit and injury free, he is a very versatile player who can play fullback, left-centre, five-eighth and lock.

The challenge will be, can our new coach get Bird him motivated and up to the job. In my view he would have a better chance to do this with Jack Bird than with Cory Norman.
 

Crush

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Yes thank you for your kind words. Even though I don't agree with many views from some members on here, from time to time I would like a post purely because of the thinking outside the box and a genuine effort to put forward a view that may solve a problem.

I doubt that not much of what we say on this forum would be noticed or taken up by those in power at SGI today however, we are a forum for people who support St George Illawarra and debate on here at most times in an enjoyable way.

My thinking is that it is absolutely necessary to get rid of Norman and Hunt who have proven to be playing way below their pay scale. It seems to me that both Norman and Bird have on year to go on their respective contracts and that both players are performing poorly for their current clubs.

Both players may improve their attitude and performance in an environment where there is a change of club with a fresh start. Both will be under no illusion that they will have to perform if they want to remain in demand for season 2022.

More importantly, the Broncos don't need a centre and we could do with a good left centre. Saints do not need a five-eighth if Griffin is our new coach mainly because we have juniors coming through and rumours that Maloney may come with Griffin. But beyond all of this, if Bird can play fit and injury free, he is a very versatile player who can play fullback, left-centre, five-eighth and lock.

The challenge will be, can our new coach get Bird him motivated and up to the job. In my view he would have a better chance to do this with Jack Bird than with Cory Norman.
The problem with Bird Poss is he is injury prone. There is no "if Bird can play fit and injury free". That isn't possible, he is unfortunately an injury prone player and will be until he is finished.
Why in the world would we take that gamble?
You bag Millward a lot which is fair enough but you can't then say we should go after Bird?
 

Dea

Juniors
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I don’t mind the creative thought, but the Bird has flown. Injured and not going to cut it any more. Give us a coach with some balls and they could simply drop Norman for poor performance. Hopefully next year there is the lower grades and he could put in for a recall or else that will be the end of his career.
 

merahputih

Juniors
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Jack unfortunately suffers from a life long affliction: rheumatoid arthritis. A cruel blow for a young, talented athlete, still only 25. Cronulla got enough out of him to get a premiership, but he is a brittle proposition who apparently needs constant medication for the ailment.
Still, it's the Dragons, so you never know.
 

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