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What to do with Packer & Reynolds in 2021?

Mario chalmers

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This is a pretty comprehsive assessment from Sterlo. We've got no value from Reynolds & Packer and it would be a huge boost to the club for 2021 if we could move them on. My question is how is that likely to happen?

The facts are already well known

Reynolds
- earns 750k+ per year
- deal expires end of 2021 and is highly unlikely to be renewed
- there were rumours of him going to SL but they seem to have gone cold

Packer
- earns $750k+
- deal expires end of 2021 and is highly unlikely to be renewed
- has a long term foot injury and played below his best when given opportunities

The end of the season must have come as a relief to these two given the awful year they have had. Would they be looking at all their options right now? I think they must be and I am sure the club is as well.

So what players on similar contracts at other clubs could we look to take on in order to release these players? There seems to be an increased willingness of all clubs to trade players with bad contracts (though there is not a formal system in place). I can't think of too many at other clubs that we'd look to take on but now would be great time to start putting together a list of potentials if anyone has thought of them?

Cheers
 

Fordy20

Juniors
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2,166
Broncos

Jack Bird
: Has a player option up his sleeve on his $1M contract which he will activate. Perennially injured, he is taking up a lot of cap space at the Broncos. As part of an incentive to take one of our players, we could top up the difference, freeing up $250k+ of cap space for the Broncos to play with and giving some of their younger players a crack at fullback. Also Bird is a talented player when he can take the field.

Andrew McCullough: While on half as much as Jack Bird, McCullough also has a player option in his favour which he will activate. Brisbane have shown that they are happy for him to move on given they lent him to Newcastle this season where he was more than serviceable. With Harry Grant heading back to Melbourne, this would give us some experience and depth at hooker and give the 18yr old Jake Simpkin time to develop more.

Joe Ofahengaue: Despite being on contract till 2022, Joe O was given permission to look for new clubs. Much younger than Packer and Reynolds, a change of scenery might do him good. Also the extra contract length might mean some flexibility when it comes to negotiating covering contract values.

Bulldogs

Nick Meaney
: Not on huge dollars, but couldn't nail down his preferred fullback position when Dean Pay was coach. Had a decent crack at fullback once Pay was punted, but was only ever filling in while Georgalis waited for Hopoate to be fit. By the seasons end, he had been dumped from the first grade side. Despite this, Meaney is a solid fullback and would give cover should JAC either fail to fire or fail to sign.

Dallin Watene-Zelezniak:Also on contract till 2022, DWZ started the year at fullback, but soon lost the position and at one point was dumped from the first grade side completely. At the end of the year he was shuffled around the Bulldogs backline but hasn't nailed down a spot. If still out of favour with incoming coach Trent Barrett, Dallin could make a decent pickup for us given our lack of depth in the outside backs. Madge also had a relationship with him before from coaching New Zealand and maybe able to get the best out of him.

Cowboys

Jake Granville
: Granville has a year to go on his contract and is behind Reece Robson and Reuben Cotter in the pecking order, so the Cowboys would have no issue letting him go. Granville could provide some experienced hooker depth in much the same way that McCullough would, a stop gap effort between Grant and Simpkin.

Ben Hampton: Hampton has been used to fill holes all over the Cowboys backline and isn't considered a starting specialist in any position, so it's unlikely the Cowboys would lose any sleep over him leaving. It's also unlikely that him leaving would be worth the headache of bringing in Packer and I doubt Reynolds is the solution to the Cowboys halves issues.

Dragons

Corey Norman
: Of all the spine players available for the Dragons, the one who is the most underwhelming is Corey Norman. Norman has a decent passing game and an excellent short kicking game when he decides to put in the effort. Reynolds is the mirror image of this bloke, all tenacity and effort, whereas Norman only has Milford for competition when it comes to being a lazy f**k. Would add depth and skill to the halves without demanding selection.

Trent Merrin: Merrin is a shadow of the player he once was. Brought back to add some starch to the Dragons pack, he has been surpassed by virtually every other forward on the Dragons roster except for Korbin Sims. It made the Dragons go out and poach Kaide Ellis from the Panthers mid season. Merrin would just be making up the numbers here as well.

Korbin Sims: Least talented of all the Sims siblings and probably the worst forward on the Dragons roster, Sims still has a year to go on his contract. A few years younger than Merrin, Korbin could add to the forward depth on our roster, but literally ever other forward on this list would be a better option than him. That being said, at least he won't get in the way of our other developing forwards.

Jason Saab: Saab doesn't quite fit the mold for this list given he's on contract until 2022 and his club doesn't really want to get rid of him. Despite this he's clearly behind Ravalawa and Pereira which is why he wanted out earlier in the season. It's a shame we couldn't secure his release earlier in the season despite letting Thompson go to get him, but his club has told him they would talk about his contract at the end of the season. Maybe we could work something out this time.

Eels

Daniel Alvaro
: Was loaned to Warriors early this season due to COVID19, so the club would be probably willing to let him walk, but despite the injury to Dylan Brown showing up their lack of halves depth, it's unlikely that they want him gone that badly that they would go after Reynolds.

Knights:

No one: After all the hard work Nathan Brown put in, the Knights cap in good shape. There aren't any steaming turds taking up cap space. Earlier this year they signed Blake Green to partner Pearce in the halves and after letting him go, they looked at Kieran Foran. They could definitely use an experienced half to help Pearce out and Reynolds definitely fits the mold.

Panthers:

No one:
Panthers have already shed their overpriced players like DWZ, RCG and Waqa Blake and they have no need to bring in Packer or Reynolds.

Rabbitohs:

No one:
Cody Walker is playing out of his skin off the back of a platform laid by Damien Cook and Adam Reynolds and their forwards aren't too flashy but they are getting the job done, so the Rabbitohs have no need for a half or Packer. Gagai is on a lot of coin, but it is less than the two we are looking to offload and they get better value out of playing him in their backline anyway.

Raiders:

No one:
Like Knights and Panthers, Ricky has already cleaned out players like Paul Vaughn, Junior Paulo and Joey Leilua. Their cap and roster are in good shape as their depth players showed against Cronulla. If Ricky identifies any issues, he will go to ESL for a replacement rather than looking to swap duds.

Roosters:

No one:
Uncle Nick doesn't have to worry about cap space and can sign whoever he likes. Flanagan has been a decent enough foil for Keary and with Lam and Walker on the books, their half depth is fine. Their forward depth is fine as well.

Sea Eagles:

Jack Gosiewski: Given the rumours of Luke Garner signing with Manly, Jack must be on the outer and despite him not being on huge coin, he's a decent experienced second rower that we would get more value out of than Packer or Reynolds. Any player swap with Manly would probably be conditional on releasing Garner as well.

Reuben Garrick: A decent goal kicking winger, Garrick could be a decent pickup for us in an area where we are light. Manly might be OK with releasing him, given the emergence of Vuna and Harper. They are also losing AFB and maybe they would be happy to take Packer with us paying freight.

Sharks:

Matt Moylan: Moylan played more matches in the halves than at fullback due to the emergence of Will Kennedy and given the plethora of halves the Sharks have on contract, they would be more than happy to let Moylan go. They could probably pair Trindall with Reynolds in reserves to give him more game time as a dominant halfback, but now that they have re-signed Rudolph they probably don't need another prop. Moylan could slot in at fullback despite it not being his favoured position if JAC falls through or fails to fire.

Josh Dugan: Dugan has filled in admirably for the Sharks at centre, but he is still on decent coin. The strong running game he used to have at fullback might be suited to the new rules, but whether his body would be is another story. Much like Gagai, the Sharks get decent service out of him in the centres, so it's unlikely they would be too keen on swapping him out.

Storm:

No one:
Storm are a professional well run club who despite rorting the cap in the past, they still haven't ended up in cap difficulties like us. They poach promising young talent and seem to get more out of the unwanted journeymen they snap up, so it's unlikely they would want to take Packer or Reynolds.

Titans:

No one: Holbrook has already put a broom through the place. Most of the Brennan signings are gone and he seems to getting performances out of those that remain like Peachey and Wallace. They want a hooker, so the only way to get Packer or Reynolds to go would be part of a package deal with Liddle if we re-signed Harry Grant if Smith plays on. Too many ifs.

Warriors:

No one:
We've already seen what the Warriors are capable of with a decent coach. They have a bunch of new experienced forwards coming in like AFB and BMM, so they have no need for Packer and their halves pairing of CHT and Nikorima seems to be good enough that bringing Reynolds in wouldn't be an improvement.

EDIT: Couldn't help myself
 
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Choiboi

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Tristan sailor is another dragons who would be a free agent.

I hope we don't sign DWZ. He was so bad he got dropped from the bulldogs team. Decent hard ball runner, but cannot catch or pass....
 

muzby

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I think you should medically retire Reynolds & sign Corey Norman.

That guy has so much potential and I think Madge would bring it out in him.
 

Vic Mackey

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Why can’t we just do what the Roosters do whenever they have a bad contract. Miraculously have the player found with drugs on them or a sex tape gets released?
 
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Wizardman

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Ask Harry Triguboff to pay them out. Our performances will lift dramatically with the true talent we can get once the three amigos are off the books. Triguboff would not feel the expense one ioata.
 

Tigerm

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we are stuck with them. Ride it out for one more year and then hopefully use the cash wisely this time. I don't see much point is swapping our duds for other teams duds.
Is Reynolds a dud? He hasn’t had much game time to show us either way.

Packer is similar, has had a major injury (by the looks of it), but hasn’t played much. If he is not capable of playing, then surely we are entitled to medical retire him.
 
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Broncos

Jack Bird
: Has a player option up his sleeve on his $1M contract which he will activate. Perennially injured, he is taking up a lot of cap space at the Broncos. As part of an incentive to take one of our players, we could top up the difference, freeing up $250k+ of cap space for the Broncos to play with and giving some of their younger players a crack at fullback. Also Bird is a talented player when he can take the field.

Andrew McCullough: While on half as much as Jack Bird, McCullough also has a player option in his favour which he will activate. Brisbane have shown that they are happy for him to move on given they lent him to Newcastle this season where he was more than serviceable. With Harry Grant heading back to Melbourne, this would give us some experience and depth at hooker and give the 18yr old Jake Simpkin time to develop more.

Joe Ofahengaue: Despite being on contract till 2022, Joe O was given permission to look for new clubs. Much younger than Packer and Reynolds, a change of scenery might do him good. Also the extra contract length might mean some flexibility when it comes to negotiating covering contract values.

Bulldogs

Nick Meaney
: Not on huge dollars, but couldn't nail down his preferred fullback position when Dean Pay was coach. Had a decent crack at fullback once Pay was punted, but was only ever filling in while Georgalis waited for Hopoate to be fit. By the seasons end, he had been dumped from the first grade side. Despite this, Meaney is a solid fullback and would give cover should JAC either fail to fire or fail to sign.

Dallin Watene-Zelezniak:Also on contract till 2022, DWZ started the year at fullback, but soon lost the position and at one point was dumped from the first grade side completely. At the end of the year he was shuffled around the Bulldogs backline but hasn't nailed down a spot. If still out of favour with incoming coach Trent Barrett, Dallin could make a decent pickup for us given our lack of depth in the outside backs. Madge also had a relationship with him before from coaching New Zealand and maybe able to get the best out of him.

Cowboys

Jake Granville
: Granville has a year to go on his contract and is behind Reece Robson and Reuben Cotter in the pecking order, so the Cowboys would have no issue letting him go. Granville could provide some experienced hooker depth in much the same way that McCullough would, a stop gap effort between Grant and Simpkin.

Ben Hampton: Hampton has been used to fill holes all over the Cowboys backline and isn't considered a starting specialist in any position, so it's unlikely the Cowboys would lose any sleep over him leaving. It's also unlikely that him leaving would be worth the headache of bringing in Packer and I doubt Reynolds is the solution to the Cowboys halves issues.

Dragons

Corey Norman
: Of all the spine players available for the Dragons, the one who is the most underwhelming is Corey Norman. Norman has a decent passing game and an excellent short kicking game when he decides to put in the effort. Reynolds is the mirror image of this bloke, all tenacity and effort, whereas Norman only has Milford for competition when it comes to being a lazy f**k. Would add depth and skill to the halves without demanding selection.

Trent Merrin: Merrin is a shadow of the player he once was. Brought back to add some starch to the Dragons pack, he has been surpassed by virtually every other forward on the Dragons roster except for Korbin Sims. It made the Dragons go out and poach Kaide Ellis from the Panthers mid season. Merrin would just be making up the numbers here as well.

Korbin Sims: Least talented of all the Sims siblings and probably the worst forward on the Dragons roster, Sims still has a year to go on his contract. A few years younger than Merrin, Korbin could add to the forward depth on our roster, but literally ever other forward on this list would be a better option than him. That being said, at least he won't get in the way of our other developing forwards.

Jason Saab: Saab doesn't quite fit the mold for this list given he's on contract until 2022 and his club doesn't really want to get rid of him. Despite this he's clearly behind Ravalawa and Pereira which is why he wanted out earlier in the season. It's a shame we couldn't secure his release earlier in the season despite letting Thompson go to get him, but his club has told him they would talk about his contract at the end of the season. Maybe we could work something out this time.

Eels

Daniel Alvaro
: Was loaned to Warriors early this season due to COVID19, so the club would be probably willing to let him walk, but despite the injury to Dylan Brown showing up their lack of halves depth, it's unlikely that they want him gone that badly that they would go after Reynolds.

Knights:

No one: After all the hard work Nathan Brown put in, the Knights cap in good shape. There aren't any steaming turds taking up cap space. Earlier this year they signed Blake Green to partner Pearce in the halves and after letting him go, they looked at Kieran Foran. They could definitely use an experienced half to help Pearce out and Reynolds definitely fits the mold.

Panthers:

No one:
Panthers have already shed their overpriced players like DWZ, RCG and Waqa Blake and they have no need to bring in Packer or Reynolds.

Rabbitohs:

No one:
Cody Walker is playing out of his skin off the back of a platform laid by Damien Cook and Adam Reynolds and their forwards aren't too flashy but they are getting the job done, so the Rabbitohs have no need for a half or Packer. Gagai is on a lot of coin, but it is less than the two we are looking to offload and they get better value out of playing him in their backline anyway.

Raiders:

No one:
Like Knights and Panthers, Ricky has already cleaned out players like Paul Vaughn, Junior Paulo and Joey Leilua. Their cap and roster are in good shape as their depth players showed against Cronulla. If Ricky identifies any issues, he will go to ESL for a replacement rather than looking to swap duds.

Roosters:

No one:
Uncle Nick doesn't have to worry about cap space and can sign whoever he likes. Flanagan has been a decent enough foil for Keary and with Lam and Walker on the books, their half depth is fine. Their forward depth is fine as well.

Sea Eagles:

Jack Gosiewski: Given the rumours of Luke Garner signing with Manly, Jack must be on the outer and despite him not being on huge coin, he's a decent experienced second rower that we would get more value out of than Packer or Reynolds. Any player swap with Manly would probably be conditional on releasing Garner as well.

Reuben Garrick: A decent goal kicking winger, Garrick could be a decent pickup for us in an area where we are light. Manly might be OK with releasing him, given the emergence of Vuna and Harper. They are also losing AFB and maybe they would be happy to take Packer with us paying freight.

Sharks:

Matt Moylan: Moylan played more matches in the halves than at fullback due to the emergence of Will Kennedy and given the plethora of halves the Sharks have on contract, they would be more than happy to let Moylan go. They could probably pair Trindall with Reynolds in reserves to give him more game time as a dominant halfback, but now that they have re-signed Rudolph they probably don't need another prop. Moylan could slot in at fullback despite it not being his favoured position if JAC falls through or fails to fire.

Josh Dugan: Dugan has filled in admirably for the Sharks at centre, but he is still on decent coin. The strong running game he used to have at fullback might be suited to the new rules, but whether his body would be is another story. Much like Gagai, the Sharks get decent service out of him in the centres, so it's unlikely they would be too keen on swapping him out.

Storm:

No one:
Storm are a professional well run club who despite rorting the cap in the past, they still haven't ended up in cap difficulties like us. They poach promising young talent and seem to get more out of the unwanted journeymen they snap up, so it's unlikely they would want to take Packer or Reynolds.

Titans:

No one: Holbrook has already put a broom through the place. Most of the Brennan signings are gone and he seems to getting performances out of those that remain like Peachey and Wallace. They want a hooker, so the only way to get Packer or Reynolds to go would be part of a package deal with Liddle if we re-signed Harry Grant if Smith plays on. Too many ifs.

Warriors:

No one:
We've already seen what the Warriors are capable of with a decent coach. They have a bunch of new experienced forwards coming in like AFB and BMM, so they have no need for Packer and their halves pairing of CHT and Nikorima seems to be good enough that bringing Reynolds in wouldn't be an improvement.

EDIT: Couldn't help myself

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Mario chalmers

Juniors
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Broncos

Jack Bird
: Has a player option up his sleeve on his $1M contract which he will activate. Perennially injured, he is taking up a lot of cap space at the Broncos. As part of an incentive to take one of our players, we could top up the difference, freeing up $250k+ of cap space for the Broncos to play with and giving some of their younger players a crack at fullback. Also Bird is a talented player when he can take the field.

Andrew McCullough: While on half as much as Jack Bird, McCullough also has a player option in his favour which he will activate. Brisbane have shown that they are happy for him to move on given they lent him to Newcastle this season where he was more than serviceable. With Harry Grant heading back to Melbourne, this would give us some experience and depth at hooker and give the 18yr old Jake Simpkin time to develop more.

Joe Ofahengaue: Despite being on contract till 2022, Joe O was given permission to look for new clubs. Much younger than Packer and Reynolds, a change of scenery might do him good. Also the extra contract length might mean some flexibility when it comes to negotiating covering contract values.

Bulldogs

Nick Meaney
: Not on huge dollars, but couldn't nail down his preferred fullback position when Dean Pay was coach. Had a decent crack at fullback once Pay was punted, but was only ever filling in while Georgalis waited for Hopoate to be fit. By the seasons end, he had been dumped from the first grade side. Despite this, Meaney is a solid fullback and would give cover should JAC either fail to fire or fail to sign.

Dallin Watene-Zelezniak:Also on contract till 2022, DWZ started the year at fullback, but soon lost the position and at one point was dumped from the first grade side completely. At the end of the year he was shuffled around the Bulldogs backline but hasn't nailed down a spot. If still out of favour with incoming coach Trent Barrett, Dallin could make a decent pickup for us given our lack of depth in the outside backs. Madge also had a relationship with him before from coaching New Zealand and maybe able to get the best out of him.

Cowboys

Jake Granville
: Granville has a year to go on his contract and is behind Reece Robson and Reuben Cotter in the pecking order, so the Cowboys would have no issue letting him go. Granville could provide some experienced hooker depth in much the same way that McCullough would, a stop gap effort between Grant and Simpkin.

Ben Hampton: Hampton has been used to fill holes all over the Cowboys backline and isn't considered a starting specialist in any position, so it's unlikely the Cowboys would lose any sleep over him leaving. It's also unlikely that him leaving would be worth the headache of bringing in Packer and I doubt Reynolds is the solution to the Cowboys halves issues.

Dragons

Corey Norman
: Of all the spine players available for the Dragons, the one who is the most underwhelming is Corey Norman. Norman has a decent passing game and an excellent short kicking game when he decides to put in the effort. Reynolds is the mirror image of this bloke, all tenacity and effort, whereas Norman only has Milford for competition when it comes to being a lazy f**k. Would add depth and skill to the halves without demanding selection.

Trent Merrin: Merrin is a shadow of the player he once was. Brought back to add some starch to the Dragons pack, he has been surpassed by virtually every other forward on the Dragons roster except for Korbin Sims. It made the Dragons go out and poach Kaide Ellis from the Panthers mid season. Merrin would just be making up the numbers here as well.

Korbin Sims: Least talented of all the Sims siblings and probably the worst forward on the Dragons roster, Sims still has a year to go on his contract. A few years younger than Merrin, Korbin could add to the forward depth on our roster, but literally ever other forward on this list would be a better option than him. That being said, at least he won't get in the way of our other developing forwards.

Jason Saab: Saab doesn't quite fit the mold for this list given he's on contract until 2022 and his club doesn't really want to get rid of him. Despite this he's clearly behind Ravalawa and Pereira which is why he wanted out earlier in the season. It's a shame we couldn't secure his release earlier in the season despite letting Thompson go to get him, but his club has told him they would talk about his contract at the end of the season. Maybe we could work something out this time.

Eels

Daniel Alvaro
: Was loaned to Warriors early this season due to COVID19, so the club would be probably willing to let him walk, but despite the injury to Dylan Brown showing up their lack of halves depth, it's unlikely that they want him gone that badly that they would go after Reynolds.

Knights:

No one: After all the hard work Nathan Brown put in, the Knights cap in good shape. There aren't any steaming turds taking up cap space. Earlier this year they signed Blake Green to partner Pearce in the halves and after letting him go, they looked at Kieran Foran. They could definitely use an experienced half to help Pearce out and Reynolds definitely fits the mold.

Panthers:

No one:
Panthers have already shed their overpriced players like DWZ, RCG and Waqa Blake and they have no need to bring in Packer or Reynolds.

Rabbitohs:

No one:
Cody Walker is playing out of his skin off the back of a platform laid by Damien Cook and Adam Reynolds and their forwards aren't too flashy but they are getting the job done, so the Rabbitohs have no need for a half or Packer. Gagai is on a lot of coin, but it is less than the two we are looking to offload and they get better value out of playing him in their backline anyway.

Raiders:

No one:
Like Knights and Panthers, Ricky has already cleaned out players like Paul Vaughn, Junior Paulo and Joey Leilua. Their cap and roster are in good shape as their depth players showed against Cronulla. If Ricky identifies any issues, he will go to ESL for a replacement rather than looking to swap duds.

Roosters:

No one:
Uncle Nick doesn't have to worry about cap space and can sign whoever he likes. Flanagan has been a decent enough foil for Keary and with Lam and Walker on the books, their half depth is fine. Their forward depth is fine as well.

Sea Eagles:

Jack Gosiewski: Given the rumours of Luke Garner signing with Manly, Jack must be on the outer and despite him not being on huge coin, he's a decent experienced second rower that we would get more value out of than Packer or Reynolds. Any player swap with Manly would probably be conditional on releasing Garner as well.

Reuben Garrick: A decent goal kicking winger, Garrick could be a decent pickup for us in an area where we are light. Manly might be OK with releasing him, given the emergence of Vuna and Harper. They are also losing AFB and maybe they would be happy to take Packer with us paying freight.

Sharks:

Matt Moylan: Moylan played more matches in the halves than at fullback due to the emergence of Will Kennedy and given the plethora of halves the Sharks have on contract, they would be more than happy to let Moylan go. They could probably pair Trindall with Reynolds in reserves to give him more game time as a dominant halfback, but now that they have re-signed Rudolph they probably don't need another

Very solid assessment. Of those you have noted:

Jack Bird - I've heard Kevin Walters wrap Bird plenty of times and with Staggs out for 12 months you'd think the right centre spot would be his for the taking?

DWZ - appears to have gone off the rails at Canterbury. He dropped plenty of bombs against us in matches this year which doesnt fill me with confidence but he has played very well for Madge in the Kiwi Jersey previously. He also runs harder than any other FB/winger in the game. I think he'd have more upside than Packer or Reynolds though his contract would be lower in value which would make a trade harder to sort out. I do remember hearing in around May that Canterbury board was keen to bring Reynolds back but that Dean Pay blocked it shortly before he was sacked. Canterbury still short on havles though so they may revisit Reynolds?

Norman - I think the fact he is left footed/plays on that side would make it hard to have Norman and Brooks in the same side? Contracts of similar value mind you. Im sure Saints would love to offload Norman

Saab - I do think his height would be put to use on short kick offs if he joined a half smart club. He's like a younger version of Tupou but even taller. Very fast. Positioning in defence is ordinary but he is learning. Manly deal might already be confirmed though?

I think the Dragons need forwards which makes you think they'd look at Packer but maybe not at this stage of his career?

Moylan is an interesting one. I'm sure Cronulla would love to move him but I think its more likely his career falls over than he comes back to his best. He is just so injury prone. Sharks might not need halves or props in exchange as they are well stocked in both positions?

There is one player who I think does need a change of scenary who you have not mentioned - Anthony Milford. He has two years left on a deal worth 900k+ from memory. He is lazy as anything but I would explore a Milford for Mbye swap given their contracts are similar value. Mbye probably warrants his own thread. Another truly horrible signing by Cleary :(
 

Fordy20

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There is one player who I think does need a change of scenary who you have not mentioned - Anthony Milford. He has two years left on a deal worth 900k+ from memory. He is lazy as anything but I would explore a Milford for Mbye swap given their contracts are similar value. Mbye probably warrants his own thread. Another truly horrible signing by Cleary :(

True, I didn't mention Milf. I thought he only had one year to go? Straight swap for Reynolds would give them cap space to play with, but I just assumed he'd stay up there and be given a season to earn a new contract under Walters. But Mbye, that extra year on his contract is a killer. He's the ideal candidate for a swap or a return to Belmore. Failing that, I wonder if it's worth offering him some kind of Chris Lawrence deal to spread some of the cost of his last year or two over a third year.

It's an interesting thought experiment, but I'd imagine most of these swaps would be fairly unlikely and all three will stay on the books. Even if Grant returns to Melbourne we've got enough depth at hooker with Liddle starting, Mbye as bench utility and Walters as backup. If we miss out on JAC, we'd be better off picking up a serviceable fullback like Caleb Aekins, decide how all the players we have on contract fit into the #3, #4 and #6 jerseys, wait for more cap space to free up and for more players to come on the market.
 

Tiger05

First Grade
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Any trade where we don't end up in a worse position is cool but I think it's highly unlikely to come off.

Packer - he can make the top team. We can have up to 6 middle forwards in the top team. He might make one spot if he is fit and firing.
Reynolds - if he is near the team we are going to have a bad season. I don't think you can play him. Just a dud player.
Mbye - you can use him all over the park. You might also get some value out of a trade. You won't re-new his contract though unless he completely turns it around.
BJ - I'll put him on this list as well. He is a top quality attacking centre when in form and not being a childish moron. You gotta try and get value out of him.
Brooks - similar to BJ but a more important position and at his best not a top level player like BJ. I figure you have to use him and hopefully he plays better. He has his moments.
 

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