Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

[herbert henry1908]

I’m sure Mansour knew Staines would be breathing down his neck, but it’s another thing to be told Staines will have the spot come round 1.

Honestly I have no problem with it, but I reckon 48hrs after the GF is a little rough.

 

[Alintheeast]

Remember when Matt Moylan went to Origin camp and found out about his true worth. Matt had a real contract not a handshake deal. I can imagine Critter being Manu’s centre partner in 2021. Just a thought.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Remember when Matt Moylan went to Origin camp and found out about his true worth. Matt had a real contract not a handshake deal. I can imagine Critter being Manu’s centre partner in 2021. Just a thought.

Won’t be in 2021, Roosters just re-signed the Morris brothers. And Crichton is contracted here next season.

 

[franklin2323]

I’m sure Mansour knew Staines would be breathing down his neck, but it’s another thing to be told Staines will have the spot come round 1.

Honestly I have no problem with it, but I reckon 48hrs after the GF is a little rough.

Was he told Staines was in or just likely? Too far out to have a spot promised to a rookie

 

[Westernised Panther]

This has happened over the years. An all-time good guy, fan favourite and wonderful player and servant for so many years being let go to usher in a new era of player(s).

Same thing happened at the end of 1989 when long-serving forward Matt Goodwin was let go to accommodate players such as Peter Tunks and Paul Clarke coming to the club. It wasn’t a popular decision at the time but it sure paved the way for Clarke to play his part in delivering the elusive premiership (Tunks not so much, though he was the bigger signing of the two).

Time will tell if the right decision has been made here.

I wish Josh all the best

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

I’m sure Mansour knew Staines would be breathing down his neck, but it’s another thing to be told Staines will have the spot come round 1.

Honestly I have no problem with it, but I reckon 48hrs after the GF is a little rough.

The problem is when is a good time to tell him.

Surely Sauce knew this was likely after seeing Staines debut. I think Sauce is reacting raher than looking at it logically.....(which is understandable)

 

[Jane Murray]

Won’t be in 2021, Roosters just re-signed the Morris brothers. And Crichton is contracted here next season.

Critter has stated publicly that he wants to remain a Panther.

 

[Luke Bowden]

Critter has stated publicly that he wants to remain a Panther.

So did Matt Moylan

 

[Jane Murray]

So did Matt Moylan

Matt who? He is totally irrelevant.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Was he told Staines was in or just likely? Too far out to have a spot promised to a rookie

Mansour is quoted in the article as saying the position was Staines next year.

 

[herbert henry1908]

The problem is when is a good time to tell him.

Surely Sauce knew this was likely after seeing Staines debut. I think Sauce is reacting raher than looking at it logically.....(which is understandable)

There’s no good time, there’s just degrees of bad. And they chose a pretty bad one. Honestly that’s really bad HR.

 

[Smug Panther]

There’s no good time, there’s just degrees of bad. And they chose a pretty bad one. Honestly that’s really bad HR.

Hard to say without all the info. Something like Naden agreeing to stay after the GF was played or we have someone new comimg. It could be anything really

 

[murraymob]

B

Critter has stated publicly that he wants to remain a Panther.

but he has not signed anything

 

[Jane Murray]

B

but he has not signed anything

Who knows, we don't?

 

[murraymob]

We do as if he signed and when he signs we will hear straight away.

 

[Jane Murray]

We do as if he signed and when he signs we will hear straight away.

Not necessarily. He was waiting until 30 Oct when his contract expired with his former manager. He is now in origin camp.

 

[Blade23]

Remember when Matt Moylan went to Origin camp and found out about his true worth. Matt had a real contract not a handshake deal. I can imagine Critter being Manu’s centre partner in 2021. Just a thought.

No. We have a deal his new manager is squeezing us for more.
It will be all sorted out soon.

 

[Blade23]

Just on Sauce it is never easy to tell someone it is time go. Particularly when someone has been loyal and passionate for the club.
He was told early so he knew where he stood. Maybe it could have been handled a little differently.
He is a popular player in the team and the decision has rubbed up a few of the players.
It can be hard to say to a young player please show some loyalty and extend when a popular loyal clubman is moved on.

 

[martielang]

Honestly, I reckon it’s a real risky move offloading Tamou, Whare & Mansour. Not only for their experience & the ability to teach the younger ones coming through but surely it’s also got to have a negative effect on team morale / culture as well.

Wouldn’t be the way I’d go.

 

[Blade23]

As much as we love Josh, there are some pretty laughable quotes in there.

being told at a cafe straight after a grand final loss that I wasn’t wanted - maybe he wanted to be told during the team's 17 game winning streak?

I think I am good enough to play first grade at Penrith - if Staines stays fit earlier in the year, Mansour would likely already have been out of the team.

I know I have plenty left in me and I think I can be at the top for at least another three years. - I can only guess he means playing NRL. He hasn't been at his top for a couple of seasons at least. And yes, there are teams where he can play NRL for another 3 years - it just wont't be at the Panthers on the money he's on now.

Anyway my takeaway from the article is that Josh will be at a new club by Xmas. Sad for both sides but for too long Panthers have been governed by emotion & sentimentality. If we ran in the bottom 4 clubs this year & didn't have guys of the cailbre of Staines looking for a shot, then absolutely look to keep Josh as a 1 club player.

But we've heard from @Blade23 that 2022 cap is going to particularly tight - meaning Josh won't get a deal with us after 2021. As a club, no point holding back someone that will be at the club in 2022 for someone that won't be.

Cap will be a nightmare come 2022. It is getting harder and harder. The values of some players we want to keep are going up and up.