Exsilium
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Both. Sounds like they've all decided to get what they can now and hold the salary cap to ransom instead of keeping a talented roster together.
We shouldn't even be in a cap mess but here we are....
Both. Sounds like they've all decided to get what they can now and hold the salary cap to ransom instead of keeping a talented roster together.
Both. Sounds like they've all decided to get what they can now and hold the salary cap to ransom instead of keeping a talented roster together.
If a player is too soft in wanting to stay because Mansour goes... Then they probably lack the mental toughness to be a FGer.
It is part of footy really
We shouldn't even be in a cap mess but here we are....
If they have chosen to do that, it's very sad.
I'm still struggling to understand why Mansour is so cut. Yep I know he stayed twice for less. (how much less I have no idea)
I'm at a loss.
Who said they're wanting to leave "because" of Mansour?
The point is that if it's only about money, this team gets picked off. The talent level is just too high to stay together in the current NRL structure. The trump card we had was the morale. The boys wanting to stay loyal to each other and build a dynasty together. Yes it's an illusion but illusions can be powerful. Burning Mansour shatters that for a minor gain at best. The fruits can be seen in a few of the boys looking around now.
And you can't blame them. Sorry, but a few days ago plenty on this forum were waxing lyrical about how we didn't owe Sauce anything, how it was a business and we'd be best off ditching him now because there's a shinier, faster version who parses better in the football manager simulation that some on here seem to think footy boils down to. Well, the money other clubs are throwing around is pretty shiny too and the kids were just shown in no uncertain terms that this is just a business. They're responding accordingly.
Who said they're wanting to leave "because" of Mansour?
The point is that if it's only about money, this team gets picked off. The talent level is just too high to stay together in the current NRL structure. The trump card we had was the morale. The boys wanting to stay loyal to each other and build a dynasty together. Yes it's an illusion but illusions can be powerful. Burning Mansour shatters that for a minor gain at best. The fruits can be seen in a few of the boys looking around now.
And you can't blame them. Sorry, but a few days ago plenty on this forum were waxing lyrical about how we didn't owe Sauce anything, how it was a business and we'd be best off ditching him now because there's a shinier, faster version who parses better in the football manager simulation that some on here seem to think footy boils down to. Well, the money other clubs are throwing around is pretty shiny too and the kids were just shown in no uncertain terms that this is just a business. They're responding accordingly.
Indeed.
The more I think about it the more I think the players are in the wrong on this.
On the flip side you are forced to play an aging winger for sentimentality sake. It's forgotten they stuck by him through serious injuries like the multi year deal post ACL (pretty sure it was signed while injured)
It is not that. They see a passionate loyal clubman who has taken less twice over his career shown the door.
They won't make the same mistakes. Cash in while you can before the club is done with you.
It doesn’t matter why Mansour is upset, what matters is the perception he was treated poorly. Combine it with the other mistakes and you have a bad situation.
And if it allowed us to keep guns like Leniu, Crichton and Burton for well under market value while providing a stable, experienced head who bleeds for the club and fires up the kids to bleed the same? How does that factor in?
Again, this isn't a spreadsheet. These are humans whos influence extends beyond how quickly they can run 100.
Let's not pretend Sauce was bad this year either.
Gotta think medium term. We have the roster to compete for years, that should’ve come first.
The Barrett thing is just one element of the mistakes. There’s several going on.
Who said they're wanting to leave "because" of Mansour?
The point is that if it's only about money, this team gets picked off. The talent level is just too high to stay together in the current NRL structure. The trump card we had was the morale. The boys wanting to stay loyal to each other and build a dynasty together. Yes it's an illusion but illusions can be powerful. Burning Mansour shatters that for a minor gain at best. The fruits can be seen in a few of the boys looking around now.
And you can't blame them. Sorry, but a few days ago plenty on this forum were waxing lyrical about how we didn't owe Sauce anything, how it was a business and we'd be best off ditching him now because there's a shinier, faster version who parses better in the football manager simulation that some on here seem to think footy boils down to. Well, the money other clubs are throwing around is pretty shiny too and the kids were just shown in no uncertain terms that this is just a business. They're responding accordingly.
And if it allowed us to keep guns like Leniu, Crichton and Burton for well under market value while providing a stable, experienced head who bleeds for the club and fires up the kids to bleed the same? How does that factor in?
Again, this isn't a spreadsheet. These are humans whos influence extends beyond how quickly they can run 100.
Let's not pretend Sauce was bad this year either.
This is the most profound comment since Sauce was knifed in the back. Sure there may be younger more talented blokes than him but he was the heart and soul of the team and the flow on from him being turfed has had a ripple effect. You are so right, these young fellas won't make the same mistakes, they will look after themselves. Having a great team isn't always about having the best players in every position, there is more to team cohesion than that. You know the old saying a champion team will always beat a team of champions and its looking very much like our champion team is about to be ripped to shreds.It is not that. They see a passionate loyal clubman who has taken less twice over his career shown the door.
They won't make the same mistakes. Cash in while you can before the club is done with you.
Indeed. I understand all that and maybe the club should've and done something differently. I do think the club has been good to him though.
And if it allowed us to keep guns like Leniu, Crichton and Burton for well under market value while providing a stable, experienced head who bleeds for the club and fires up the kids to bleed the same? How does that factor in?
Again, this isn't a spreadsheet. These are humans whos influence extends beyond how quickly they can run 100.
Let's not pretend Sauce was bad this year either.
You can't make the players sign though. In most cases they will wait Managers know the system. The issue was so many off contract together