Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

[herbert henry1908]

Just on the whole concept of compensation for clubs that have developed juniors, here’s an idea I like


If someone signs another clubs junior, before the age of 23 let’s say. The club signing has to pay a 25% fee of the salary to the original club, plus that fee goes against the new clubs salary cap.

Alternatively the fee could be waived if a player trade could be agreed upon.


This does two things. Firstly the original club gets some monetary compensation for the time and effort it took to develop the player, but the 25% also acts as a disincentive against offering silly amounts of money for other clubs juniors. If it was just 25% but it didn’t count towards the cap, this wouldn’t be enough of a disincentive.

So let’s say Burton signed with the Dogs for 600k. We get 150k per year, and Burton counts for 750k against the Dogs cap.


Of course this could run into legal trouble as a restraint of trade, but you can’t really know that until someone tests it in court.

 

[Original Name]

Doesn't matter if we have to release Moses Leota in a few years and bring in somebody cheap from the Super League or get a cheap toiler like the Melbourne Storm do in the middle. We have to absolutely keep Spencer Leniu. Guys with that leg speed, agility, size and aggression are the best middle forwards you can hope for in the modern game. If he doesn't pledge to another country he'll get at least a couple rep games for NSW and Australia.

 

[Abacus]

LOL at those comparing 2020 to 2021 squads & using as a measure of good retention.
The majority of the team were on contract & we're 4 weeks into the preseason FFS.

The focus should be how many of our 2020 GF team are on contract for 2022. It looks like not many at this stage & the question has to be asked, WTF has the club been doing?

 

[betcats]

LOL at those comparing 2020 to 2021 squads & using as a measure of good retention.
The majority of the team were on contract & we're 4 weeks into the preseason FFS.

The focus should be how many of our 2020 GF team are on contract for 2022. It looks like not many at this stage & the question has to be asked, WTF has the club been doing?

Heaps of the gf team are still contracted here in 2022, saying otherwise is just not true.

 

[betcats]

We should have done better and frankly if Gould were still our GM we wouldn’t be having these conversations.

Gus never would of let rcg, dallin or waqa go so the blokes you are freaking out about losing now would still be outside our top 17 and we still would have no money to keep them. Just shut the f**k up you panicking idiot you aren’t even making sense.

 

[Abacus]

Heaps of the gf team are still contracted here in 2022, saying otherwise is just not true.

I count 8 players - 9 if Tetevano takes up his option. "Heaps" is BS.

 

[Smug Panther]

Panic!!! Everybody panic!!!!!

 

[franklin2323]

I count 8 players - 9 if Tetevano takes up his option. "Heaps" is BS.

I don't see Luai or Yeo going. Or Crichton for that matter suddenly it up to 12 staying

That said Storm have 8 contracted into 2022... Should they panic too?

 

[betcats]

I count 8 players - 9 if Tetevano takes up his option. "Heaps" is BS.

half the team is hardly ‘not many” ffs sounds like BS to me so f**k off with your double standards. Besides the 9 we have 3 negotiating, 2 will be leaving. 2 more from the team that need to be sorted out.

 

[franklin2323]

LOL at those comparing 2020 to 2021 squads & using as a measure of good retention.
The majority of the team were on contract & we're 4 weeks into the preseason FFS.

The focus should be how many of our 2020 GF team are on contract for 2022. It looks like not many at this stage & the question has to be asked, WTF has the club been doing?

You could do a very good side of players off contract for 2022 across the comp. Very few will actually leave

Latrell, Tedesco, Adam Reynolds, Mitchell Pearce, Shaun Johnson just to name a few

 

[Jane Murray]

LOL at those comparing 2020 to 2021 squads & using as a measure of good retention.
The majority of the team were on contract & we're 4 weeks into the preseason FFS.

The focus should be how many of our 2020 GF team are on contract for 2022. It looks like not many at this stage & the question has to be asked, WTF has the club been doing?

Trying to lock in players.

 

[WestyLife]

Roosters and Storm have shown you keep a core of players and rotate the roster around them.

Keep:

Cleary
Luai
Staines
Fish
Yeo
Lenui

Everyone else is good to have but can be replaced if their price goes up.

 

[betcats]

You could do a very good side of players off contract for 2022 across the comp. Very few will actually leave

Latrell, Tedesco, Adam Reynolds, Mitchell Pearce, Shaun Johnson just to name a few

Exactly. The storm have 10 or 11 players off contract next season, another 10 in 2022 which is the exact same as us not small names for the storm either, pretty much all their big names except for munster are off contract in the next two years. People have no idea what constitutes good management of a salary cap half the time, they just grab some arbitrary number and use it as proof our management has been terrible.

 

[Abacus]

You could do a very good side of players off contract for 2022 across the comp. Very few will actually leave

Latrell, Tedesco, Adam Reynolds, Mitchell Pearce, Shaun Johnson just to name a few

Gee you're scraping the barrel pretty quickly with that list - & none of them played the 2020 GF.

 

[Abacus]

half the team is hardly ‘not many” ffs sounds like BS to me so f**k off with your double standards. Besides the 9 we have 3 negotiating, 2 will be leaving. 2 more from the team that need to be sorted out.

Not sure where you see "double standards". Its significantly different to the "only 2 or 3 changes" crap people have been peddling while idiots eat it up convinced its chocolate ice cream.

 

[Abacus]

Roosters and Storm have shown you keep a core of players and rotate the roster around them.

Keep:

Cleary
Luai
Staines
Fish
Yeo
Lenui

Everyone else is good to have but can be replaced if their price goes up.

3 of those still unsigned. Agree that deals for Luai & Yeo should get done but not sure you can count Leniu as more than 50/50.

Probably should add Api to your list too.

 

[franklin2323]

Gee you're scraping the barrel pretty quickly with that list - & none of them played the 2020 GF.

Not all played in SOO either so surely in theory they should be locked up by now then?

If Roosters can't get the best player in the comp locked up early then why should we be expected to have all 12 off contract locked up

 

[betcats]

Not sure where you see "double standards". Its significantly different to the "only 2 or 3 changes" crap people have been peddling while idiots eat it up convinced its chocolate ice cream.

You moved the goalpost you moron. 2 or 3 changes for 2021 is absolutely true and that is what they were specifically talking about. Then you come in with this 2022 rubbish with your own comments being inaccurate acting like you've made some great point.

 

[franklin2323]

Roosters and Storm have shown you keep a core of players and rotate the roster around them.

Keep:

Cleary
Luai
Staines
Fish
Yeo
Lenui

Everyone else is good to have but can be replaced if their price goes up.

Pretty much this. That is a good mix there and that core should push top 4 most years

 

[Abacus]

Exactly. The storm have 10 or 11 players off contract next season, another 10 in 2022 which is the exact same as us not small names for the storm either, pretty much all their big names except for munster are off contract in the next two years. People have no idea what constitutes good management of a salary cap half the time, they just grab some arbitrary number and use it as proof our management has been terrible.

I like the way this implies you know what constitutes good cap management.

In essence you want to keep the players you need for success, at the best price possible. Which typically means locking them up before they hit the open market (especially during a good season). We've failed to do this & are going to pay the price through higher costs per player.