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Smug Panther

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I suspected his alleged involvement would be on the more serious side of things but was just pointing out the mention of the words supply does not always involve for monetary gain. Do the crime do the time I guess.
I have no problem if he was getting pingas and bags for the boys. That's miles away from selling ice to school kids
 

Kilkenny

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I have no problem if he was getting pingas and bags for the boys. That's miles away from selling ice to school kids

I wasn’t trying to justify anything whether he is alleged to be involved in the supply of ice or cocaine or any other drug.

I’m not sure there has been any information released he has been involved in supplying drugs to minors so need to be careful about drawing any conclusions which is all I was pointing out in the first instance.
 

Jane Murray

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I wasn’t trying to justify anything whether he is alleged to be involved in the supply of ice or cocaine or any other drug.

I’m not sure there has been any information released he has been involved in supplying drugs to minors so need to be careful about drawing any conclusions which is all I was pointing out in the first instance.

Apparently they were intended for schoolies.

Michael Gordon: Former NRL player and Gold Coast Titans assistant coach stood down over alleged drug charges (9news.com.au)
 

Kilkenny

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I understand all that Jane but they are allegations and we shouldn’t convict the guy based on initial media reports or public opinion.

I don’t condone or defend anyone involved in the supply of prohibited drugs all I am saying is let him have his day in court before we form any conclusions around his guilt or innocence.
 

Jane Murray

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I understand all that Jane but they are allegations and we shouldn’t convict the guy based on initial media reports or public opinion.

I don’t condone or defend anyone involved in the supply of prohibited drugs all I am saying is let him have his day in court before we form any conclusions around his guilt or innocence.
Oh I'm not. If Gordon is convicted, and all avenues of appeal has been exhausted, he needs hard gaol time.
 

Kilkenny

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Oh I'm not. If Gordon is convicted, and all avenues of appeal has been exhausted, he needs hard gaol time.

Jane not questioning your views in any shape or form.

Our justice system works in mysterious ways.

The more affluent in society more often can afford the best Queens Counsel to defend them and invariably or sadly get off with far less punishment than those defended by Legal Aid, just the way the systems works.

No different to what we are seeing in the cases of Jarrod Hayne and Jack De Belin they are represented by the best money can buy. The better the counsel the better chance you have of getting off, it is a sad fact of life.

In the criminal justice system is is often not about whether you are guilty or innocent it is more about whether you can retain expensive counsel who can muddy the waters so to speak, cast doubt and a poor ill equipped jury of twelve men and women who are largely not equipped to really adjudicate on complex issues.

The Michael Gordon case will be twelve months away from being finalised but the other two high profile cases have gone to the jury so it will be interesting to see what verdicts are delivered some time next week.
 

Jane Murray

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Jane not questioning your views in any shape or form.

Our justice system works in mysterious ways.

The more affluent in society more often can afford the best Queens Counsel to defend them and invariably or sadly get off with far less punishment than those defended by Legal Aid, just the way the systems works.

No different to what we are seeing in the cases of Jarrod Hayne and Jack De Belin they are represented by the best money can buy. The better the counsel the better chance you have of getting off, it is a sad fact of life.

In the criminal justice system is is often not about whether you are guilty or innocent it is more about whether you can retain expensive counsel who can muddy the waters so to speak, cast doubt and a poor ill equipped jury of twelve men and women who are largely not equipped to really adjudicate on complex issues.

The Michael Gordon case will be twelve months away from being finalised but the other two high profile cases have gone to the jury so it will be interesting to see what verdicts are delivered some time next week.

Exactly. I knew a few people who should not be in gaol, unfortunately, they could not afford good lawyers. I also know someone who should be, only got let off due to an excellent, and expensive, lawyers.
 

Kilkenny

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I dunno. Really it depends upon the extent of the offending. Sending people to prison, especially first offenders, is a last resort.


Again i say it depends on the degree of criminality. If convicted of supplying a commercial quantity of a prohibited drug it carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment. No one gets even near that even in the worse cases for those who are habitual criminals but that again is more a failure of the criminal justice system. You don’t get life even for the most abhorrent murders. Go figure. In the Michael Gordon situation shouldn’t put the cart before the horse. Let’s see how it pan’s out and form a proper objective view once he is convicted, if convicted, and all the facts are known.
 

Kilkenny

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Oh I'm not. If Gordon is convicted, and all avenues of appeal has been exhausted, he needs hard gaol time.

Jayne, the parole and criminal justice system is highly flawed. Sad but true.

Google and read up on the murder of Jill Meagher by Adrian Bayley. It is a Victorian case but is probably the best example of a flawed system which resulted in the death of a beautiful young women which would never have happened had the parole and criminal justice system done there jobs properly.

Let justice in the Michael Gordon case take its course and see what the system delivers.
 

Jane Murray

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Jayne, the parole and criminal justice system is highly flawed. Sad but true.

Google and read up on the murder of Jill Meagher by Adrian Bayley. It is a Victorian case but is probably the best example of a flawed system which resulted in the death of a beautiful young women which would never have happened had the parole and criminal justice system done there jobs properly.

Let justice in the Michael Gordon case take its course and see what the system delivers.

I know, and I don't need to google her case, as I remember it like it was yesterday. Daniel Morcombe is another great example.
 

Kilkenny

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I know, and I don't need to google her case, as I remember it like it was yesterday. Daniel Morcombe is another great example.
My apologies.

My Eldest son works in law enforcement in Melbourne and the Jill Meagher case remains a case study in the total failure of our criminal justice system.
 
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blue bags

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Instagram model, 20, is sent to live with her grandmother after allegedly being part of a syndicate supplying cocaine, steroids and ecstasy with her pro surfer boyfriend and NRL star
  • Mikayla Noakes pleaded not guilty to taking part in cross-border drug syndicate
  • The 20-year-old and Tate Robinson, 21, were among seven people arrested
  • Noakes has been ordered by the court to move in with her grandparents
By ALANA MAZZONI FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA

An Instagram model who was allegedly part of a syndicate supplying cocaine, steroids and ecstasy has been sent to live with her grandmother as part of her strict bail conditions.

Mikayla Noakes, 20, and Tate Robinson, 21, were among seven people arrested over an alleged cross-border MDMA and cocaine syndicate operating in New South Wales and Queensland.

Noakes was living with Robinson, but the court ordered her to move in with her grandparents under her new bail requirements.

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Mikayla Noakes (pictured) has pleaded not guilty to taking part in a cross-border drug syndicate

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The 20-year-old Instagram model (pictured) appeared in Tweed Heads Local Court on Monday

Her curfew was also changed from 7pm to 7am as part of her bail conditions, The Courier Mail reports.

Meanwhile Robinson, a pro surfer, is still behind bars and will apply for bail at a later date.

Noakes is charged with participating in a criminal group contributing to a criminal activity and taking part in supplying a prohibited drug.

The model from Casuarina earlier pleaded not guilty to both charges, and her case was adjourned to January 15.

The Instagram star boasts more than 12,000 followers and frequently flaunts her bikini body to her fans and promotes designer fashion and swimwear labels.

She did not speak to media after her court appearance, NCA NewsWire reported.

Ms Noakes was arrested along with six others including former NRL player and Gold Coast Titans specialist coach Michael Gordon following police raids in New South Wales and Saturday on Saturday.
Detectives had been investigating the alleged distribution of illicit drugs between the two states since May.

They raided Casuarina and Terranora homes, in northern New South Wales, and searched Robina, Burleigh Waters and Miami homes, in Queensland.

Police allegedly found cocaine, MDMA, steroids, more than $60,000 cash, mobile phones and drug paraphernalia.

Gold Coast Titans specialist coach Michael Gordon (pictured at training in February) was also arrested and charged in the police operation

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Police allegedly found cocaine, MDMA, steroids, more than $60,000 cash, mobile phones and drug paraphernalia

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Ms Noakes (pictured) is among seven people arrested over alleged drug syndicate on Saturday

Gordon was charged with two counts of supplying a prohibited drug and two counts of possessing a prohibited drug.

He was granted strict conditional bail and will front Tweed Heads Local Court on December 14.

Gold Coast Titans said in a statement Gordon had been removed from his coaching role with the club.

'Michael has been working on a contract basis, providing specialist coaching services to the club over the past season,' the Titans statement said.

'He will not be providing services to the club until further notice.'

Tate Robinson was also arrested in the police operation, with Ms Noakes frequently featuring in loved up posts on his Instagram account.

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Ms Noakes' boyfriend Tate Robinson (pictured together) was also arrested on Saturday

The 22-year-old surfer (pictured) was charged with 20 offences and was remanded in custody

The 22-year-old was charged with 20 offences including supplying a prohibited drug, supplying prohibited drugs on an ongoing basis and participating in a criminal group contributing to criminal activity.

The young surfer was remanded in custody and will also appear in court on January 15.

Other charges in the alleged syndicate include a 20-year-old man who was charged with supplying prohibited drugs and possessing a prohibited drug.

A 21-year-old man was charged with participating in a criminal group contributing to a criminal activity and taking part in supplying a prohibited drug.

A 21-year-old and 31-year-old were arrested in Queensland and will be extradited to New South Wales.

Tweed and Byron Police District Crime Manager Detective Chief Inspector Brendon Cullen said the arrests came ahead of schoolies.

'Byron Bay is one of the busiest places on the east coast of Australia right now, with thousands of schoolies expected to fill coastal towns during the coming weeks,' detective Cullen said.

'These drugs were (allegedly) bound for our streets, and these arrests will have significantly disrupted the supply chain into the schoolies areas.

'Police will allege in court this syndicate was operating across the border, and we are extremely pleased to be able to put these people before the courts.'

Ms Noakes and Mr Robinson (pictured together) frequently appear in loved up posts on each others respective social media accounts

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Mikayla-Noakes-20-sent-live-grandmother.html
Instagram model Mikayla Noakes, 20, is sent to live with her grandmother
 

MugaB

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Tough blow for Christian given he is off contract at end of 2021 and was probably playing for his NRL future.
Probably a good thing, we can pick him up cheap for next year, and keep him around for depth, never know if he has a great return could play next to his bro and staines would become our fullback
 

CCJohnC

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Probably a good thing, we can pick him up cheap for next year, and keep him around for depth, never know if he has a great return could play next to his bro and staines would become our fullback

Christian had a few good games for us before he went to the dogs.
 
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