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Next Queensland coach?

davi

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It's been confirmed Wayne Bennett won't be returning. Paul Green is the obvious the choice as successor but the QRL want the next coach to commit for three years.

Which would then give life to the shock selection of Billy Slater. Slater is certainly very smart when you hear his commentary but he hasn't done much of an apprenticeship. But then again neither did Paul Vautin. Vautin series win in 1995 probably over shadows his rather mediocre tenure though.

I think they will go with Green, but Slater is an interesting prospect though.
 

Reflector

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Vautin's series win in 1995 was off the back of rather fortunate timing and Gillmeister running the show behind the scenes.

Green would be the sensible choice given his coaching credentials, Slater runs the risk of becoming another Wally Lewis or Laurie Daley in the Origin coaching records...
 

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Vautin's series win in 1995 was off the back of rather fortunate timing and Gillmeister running the show behind the scenes.

Green would be the sensible choice given his coaching credentials, Slater runs the risk of becoming another Wally Lewis or Laurie Daley in the Origin coaching records...
Gillmeister running the show behind the scenes. "What from his hospital bed". I think you made that one up.
Vautin's series win in 1995 was off the back of rather fortunate timing and Gillmeister running the show behind the scenes.

Green would be the sensible choice given his coaching credentials, Slater runs the risk of becoming another Wally Lewis or Laurie Daley in the Origin coaching records...
Vautin's series win in 1995 was off the back of rather fortunate timing and Gillmeister running the show behind the scenes.

Green would be the sensible choice given his coaching credentials, Slater runs the risk of becoming another Wally Lewis or Laurie Daley in the Origin coaching records...
How could Vautins 1995 series win be the on the back of rather fortunate timing. He had very few quality players at his disposal and please explain how Gillmeister ran the show. 1995 would be nsw,s darkest hour when you look at who they had available in comparison.
 

Reflector

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Gillmeister running the show behind the scenes. "What from his hospital bed". I think you made that one up.


It's common knowledge that Gillmeister (despite spending time on the drip) was the one running the show in that Qld team through that series.

While Qld had a number of notable players out, NSW lost their captain (Daley) and regular halfback (Stuart) because of SL, amongst others. Throw in the fact that Gus was in the midst of the SL war himself as Roosters coach at the time and has since admitted that it was a distraction from the series he believes he could've managed better.
 

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It's common knowledge that Gillmeister (despite spending time on the drip) was the one running the show in that Qld team through that series.

While Qld had a number of notable players out, NSW lost their captain (Daley) and regular halfback (Stuart) because of SL, amongst others. Throw in the fact that Gus was in the midst of the SL war himself as Roosters coach at the time and has since admitted that it was a distraction from the series he believes he could've managed better.
So they lost Stuart & Daley, and replaced them with Fittler and Johns. I don't think QLD had that luxury at their disposal.
 

davi

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I've read NRL.com that Paul Green receiving a 1 year deal and a succession plan with potentially Billy Slater or Jonathan Thurston as assistants is the likely scenario.

It makes sense considering there are not too many former Queensland coaches with time on there hands at the moment.

Neil Henry- Daly Cherry-Evans has suggested if Henry got the job in Manly he would ask for a release.
Anthony Seibold - damaged goods and I think he's secured a assistant job with the Knights
John Lang- he's been retired from coaching for almost a decade.

I know its not mandatory for the coach to be a Queenslander as Graham Lowe did coach Queensland (1991-1992). But the QRL are pretty tribal on giving the coaching job to a Queenslander. There was a suggestion of giving the job to an outsider (Craig Bellamy?) which the QRL bristled at before Mal Meninga was appointed in 2006.

Green is not likely a long-term solution as he wants to coach NRL again. But I think its possible he may stay longer then a year to bide his time to see if Kevin Walters pans out at the Broncos.
 

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Why the f**k would Slater or Thurston be considered? Have they got any coaching or management experience at all. Remember when Wally Lewis coached just because it’s Wally

It's common knowledge that Gillmeister (despite spending time on the drip) was the one running the show in that Qld team through that series.

While Qld had a number of notable players out, NSW lost their captain (Daley) and regular halfback (Stuart) because of SL, amongst others. Throw in the fact that Gus was in the midst of the SL war himself as Roosters coach at the time and has since admitted that it was a distraction from the series he believes he could've managed better.
I read a story from Fittlers autobiography that the night before game 3 he and the chief were in their hotel wondering where the rest of the team where. Only to find out they were gambling at the casino. They knew right from that moment they would got whitewashed.
So they lost Stuart & Daley, and replaced them with Fittler and Johns. I don't think QLD had that luxury at their disposal.
Fittler was in a massive legal battle and was totally sidetracked as were quite a number of massive NSW figures that year. Johns was very raw and wasn’t quite ready. Maroons had some very good players in that team so they weren’t fielding total duds.
 

davi

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Why the f**k would Slater or Thurston be considered? Have they got any coaching or management experience at all. Remember when Wally Lewis coached just because it’s Wally

Wally Lewis did have experience coaching the Gold Coast Seagulls. Yeah he didn't have a great success, but then again who would with that Seagulls roster. Not that I'm suggesting Lewis was a great coach because I'm not. But he did have more experience then Slater and Thurston.

Interestingly Lewis has said his biggest mistake during his tenure with the Seagulls was agree to be player/coach. It was no way to be thrown into his debut in coaching.
 

davi

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Michael Hagan or Matt Elliott might be options

Matthew Elliott a Queenslander wow I never knew that. I looked him up and he grew up in Townsville.

Michael Hagan did cross my mind and receive stellar reviews as an assistant working under Mal Meninga. He does have the blotch on his resume with two series he coached 2004 and 2005 as head coach that resulted in QLD losses. He was working as a head coach at Newcastle Knights at the time and was the reason he quit the QLD coaching job as he felt it was too much to juggle. He might be open to reconsider now he doesn't coach NRL.
 
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davi

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Matthew Elliott was hired as an assistant coach for the Dragons in September. So he isn't likely in contention anytime soon.
 

davi

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It's Paul Green who has been appointed Queensland coach. I know some may not be surprised but apparently the board was split between Green and Billy Slater. Green has as a two year deal with the second year in the QRL's favor. Slater apparently if to be appointed wanted a deal for at least three origin series.

I'm still not over enthused by the Green selection. Alot of the shine came off him as the Cowboys were rubbish for the last three years of his tenure. I concede though experienced coaches that could commit for full time for origin were hard to come by for Queensland. There really wasn't anyone else who could be in consideration in my opinion.
 

davi

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It will be interesting they continue with Paul Green. Some of the suggestions have been with coaches that don't have a lot of experience in Jonathan Thurston and Billy Slater. Brad Fittler had been a NRL coach previously and still did alot of lower level coaching before getting the job.

Wayne Bennett would certainly be appealing since he is off contract as an NRL coach next year. But Bennett would be short term and does the QRL want to go in that direction?

It should be reminded that if Tommy Trbojevic threw a dummy NSW get a clean sweep. Barely winning in a dead rubber and getting thrashed in the first two games coupled with all games played in Queensland. May be too much for the QRL to overlook to bring Green back.
 

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Cupboard seems pretty bare in terms of playing and coaching stocks for us.

Cam Smith given his knowledge of the game could be good choice. But then people like that aren't always great at passing that knowledge on.
 
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