News 18th man??

[siv]

Happy to extend the bench to 8 with the first 4 used

As long as the 8 players have played 40 min of reserve grade

 

[siv]

Happy to extend the bench to 8 with the first 4 used

As long as the 8 players have played 40 min of reserve grade

 

[GreenMachine121]

6 man bench would be better

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Reserve grade these days barely played at the same ground let alone same day.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Double post

 

[SpaceMonkey]

How about adding two extra players to the bench who can only be used as replacements rather than interchanges? Keep the total number of substitutions the same.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

I voted no.

Coaches might need to rethink their interchanges and keep a few up their sleeve for later in the game.

The coach doesnt PLAN to have 4 guys injured........

 

[forby]

But if you get four normal injuries you don’t get any extra?
Doesn’t seem fair!

 

[Generalzod]

I wonder if what had happened to Cronulla and the Raiders had happened to Melbourne or the Roosters whether the 18th man would have been already implemented.

 

[forby]

The roosters had 1 on the bench but of the 3 out only one was HIA.

 

[Basil Brush]

So 6 man bench is the general consensus, with same number of interchanges.

I like it.

Let's see what the NRL do.

 

[Basil Brush]

The NRL has almost announced it will do an 18th man sub now.

No change to bench or interchange

 

[Perth Red]

Bring back the old days when being substituted was shameful lol

 

[seanoff]

Bring back the old days when being substituted was shameful lol

Cant anymore. But you know that.

 

[some11]

Voted yes but think extended bench is the way to go.

 

[Danish]

An 18th man HIA replacement will 100% be abused by coaches from day 1 of its implementation. you’ll see forwards failing HIAs in the second half regularly. If you can have an 18th and 19th man it would be even worse as coaches could effectively hook anyone who is playing shit and replace them for free.

An extended bench with the same interchange, along with forcing injury subs to be counted in interchange numbers would be the only way to ensure it isn’t rorted

 

[Smug Panther]

An 18th man HIA replacement will 100% be abused by coaches from day 1 of its implementation. you’ll see forwards failing HIAs in the second half regularly. If you can have an 18th and 19th man it would be even worse as coaches could effectively hook anyone who is playing shit and replace them for free.

An extended bench with the same interchange, along with forcing injury subs to be counted in interchange numbers would be the only way to ensure it isn’t rorted

Perfect post

 

[Pete Cash]

An 18th man HIA replacement will 100% be abused by coaches from day 1 of its implementation. you’ll see forwards failing HIAs in the second half regularly. If you can have an 18th and 19th man it would be even worse as coaches could effectively hook anyone who is playing shit and replace them for free.

An extended bench with the same interchange, along with forcing injury subs to be counted in interchange numbers would be the only way to ensure it isn’t rorted

That is 100 % why I think extending the bench is the way to go

Let's say the raiders are playing some team and stick picks a ridiculous bench of 4 middle forwards with an outside back 18th man in Kris. We are down by 4 and losing the battle of yardage out of our own end

Croker gets a head knock is ruled out by the doctor and Kris comes on fresh as a daisy and constantly busts through the line from our end and scores the winning try

How do fans respond?

Because that really did happen in another sport recently (cricket) where jadeja got concussion subbed after he had batted and the spinner who replaced him ripped through Australia and people were seething

 

[Smug Panther]

That is 100 % why I think extending the bench is the way to go

Let's say the raiders are playing some team and stick picks a ridiculous bench of 4 middle forwards with an outside back 18th man in Kris. We are down by 4 and losing the battle of yardage out of our own end

Croker gets a head knock is ruled out by the doctor and Kris comes on fresh as a daisy and constantly busts through the line from our end and scores the winning try

How do fans respond?

Because that really did happen in another sport recently (cricket) where jadeja got concussion subbed after he had batted and the spinner who replaced him ripped through Australia and people were seething

Yep eliminate any grey area. You just know teams like Melbourne would abuse it and it would be impossible to prove. How easy is it purposely get a few questions wrong in a HIA test?

 

[Chimp]

Yep eliminate any grey area. You just know teams like Melbourne would abuse it and it would be impossible to prove. How easy is it purposely get a few questions wrong in a HIA test?

This is exactly the problem - hence why there needs to be a consequence, if there is an 18th/19th man for HIA only, I’d say that anyone ruled out for HIA has to have 10 days off playing and training - that way it shows we’re absolutely doing the best we can to stop long term HIA impacts (and helps with any future law suits), and stops players/clubs being happy to rort the rule for an in game advantage.
With something like that rule above, I’d say move to a 6 man bench, but can only use 4 players as standard, can only access the 5th or 6th bench player once you’ve got 2 people rubbed out for the game due to HIA.
HIA is different to normal injuries, as the rules are forcing them off the field, any other injury, the players choose whether they’re able to battle through the pain or not, and we shouldn’t go away from that toughness being part of the game, apart from HIA’s.