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MugaB

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I can see plenty of differences in our attack this year. Cleary and Jarome are both roaming a lot more and combining on both sides of the ruck is the main one. Most of the first half against Manly we were trying out different set plays and shapes. Not saying its better or worse, it definitely needs to get a bit sharper but I think Webster is having his input for sure.
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This guy says lotsa things... be more specific pal
 

Jane Murray

Bench
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A public memorial service for Tommy Raudonikis will be held at the SCG at 11am on Monday, April 19.

The NRL announced on Wednesday that, following discussions with the Raduonikis family, the service would go ahead. Everyone is welcome to attend.

ARLC Chairman Peter V’landys said the service would be a fitting way to honour a great of the game.

"Tommy was one of a kind. He was the people’s champion who reached the pinnacle of our game, it’s fitting the rugby league community will come together on Monday to pay tribute to one of the most popular players in the game’s history," he said.

"We have worked with Tommy’s family to ensure a Memorial that fittingly celebrates a legend of our game."

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Bennett and Walters pays tribute to ‘larrikin’ Raudonikis


Bennett and Walters pays tribute to ‘larrikin’ Raudonikis

Raudonikis died on April 7 at the age of 70. During a stellar playing career, he played 29 Test matches for Australia and was part of the first State of Origin match in 1980.

Once his playing days were over, he coached in both the NRL and State of Origin arenas as well as remaining one of the great characters the game has seen.

Those visiting Monday's memorial service are asked to be at the SCG by 10.30am. No tickets are required.
 

The_Frog

First Grade
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The Rugby League Digest podcast examined the outpouring of grief from the game following the death of Tommy Raudonikis. They noted that although he was a very good to outstanding player, he was never close to becoming an immortal, yet when immortals have passed on, they haven't had the adulation Tommy has. Langlands was perhaps understandable but neither Beetson nor Gasnier nor even Churchill got this sort of treatment upon their death, and I daresay Provan won't either, despite being much bigger stars of the sport. The podcast posited that Tommy was the embodiment of the persona that the typical fan of the sport admires and aspires to, including starting fights, punching and biting. Interesting discussion.
 

The_Frog

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We have played three of the shittiest teams in the games history. I think our attack will be fine, but to judge it now is losing a load before unzipping.
The Bulldogs look to be up there, lacking any sort of authority up front as they do, but the other two will more likely go down as just your garden variety bottom 8 sides once the season settles down.
 

Smug Panther

First Grade
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The Rugby League Digest podcast examined the outpouring of grief from the game following the death of Tommy Raudonikis. They noted that although he was a very good to outstanding player, he was never close to becoming an immortal, yet when immortals have passed on, they haven't had the adulation Tommy has. Langlands was perhaps understandable but neither Beetson nor Gasnier nor even Churchill got this sort of treatment upon their death, and I daresay Provan won't either, despite being much bigger stars of the sport. The podcast posited that Tommy was the embodiment of the persona that the typical fan of the sport admires and aspires to, including starting fights, punching and biting. Interesting discussion.
Excellent podcast
 

betcats

Referee
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After the hammering our boys got by the media this week if Tommy played today he’d be hated. Not being allowed to punch would not stop him starting shit on the field. He’d be the biggest grub in the game!
 

murraymob

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Great news
Hertz has extended its major sponsorship till the end of 2023. .The Penrith branch is run by a great family the Thompsons .If you need to hire a vehicle call them
 
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Jane Murray

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Great article, and it is accurate.

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Former Clive Churchill Medallist and True Blue Luke Lewis hails the current Panthers side as better than the 2003 NRL grand final-winning team.

Although direct comparisons almost two decades apart are hard, Lewis is more than qualified to make them considering he was a part of that 2003 premiership-winning team over the Sydney Roosters.

“I think they’re a lot better side than what we were in 2003,” Lewis told Behind Blue Eyes for NSWRL.com.au.

“They have got strike all over the field like we did in 2003 but I just think their fitness levels, their skills levels from 1-17 is probably a lot more than what we had in 2003.

“But it is very hard to compare. We had a really good side back in 2003 that suited the game back then.

“At the moment the game is so much faster – you need a couple of really instinctive players which I think they’ve got that really nice balance.

“You’ve got (Nathan) Cleary there who can control the game and you’ve got Jarome Luai who is a bit of an instinctive guy playing off the cuff. Then you’ve got other good guys again who can complement him on that.

“They’re probably a lot more classy side than what we were in 2003 but we had a really hard-head mentality in 2003.”

The 2003 Panthers enjoyed three periods of dominance that year – a run of eight straight wins, then another of five wins, before ending the season with seven in a row, including the grand final.

The current Panthers won 17 straight in 2020 before losing the grand final to the Melbourne Storm. But they’ve started the 2021 season without blinking – undefeated after six rounds including the 20-12 win over the Broncos.

That is now 24 NRL games and only one loss.

“One thing about the Panthers is that they’ve got a few more gears … they have got strike all over the park from fullback to their front rowers to the players that aren’t even playing at the moment (due to injury),” Lewis said.

“Matty Burton out wide looks spot on, the halves combination is excellent, Crichton is at fullback until (Dylan) Edwards comes back – again these guys are just footballers.

“I don’t know what team beats them – I think South Sydney are probably the team to come through and beat them, Melbourne Storm ….

“I think only two or three teams can actually beat Penrith but if they are on their game, on the day, then no-one beats them.

“They have so much belief in their game plan and what they can do on a footy field, that when they need to turn it on, they’ll turn it on.”
 

John Hamblin

Juniors
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Last year after 2 games I said that Yeo should be considered for an origin bench spot. This year I think Spencer Leniu should be seriously considered. What other middle forward eligible for NSW has the speed size and impact. Bring him on after 25/30 minutes against a tiring defence and he will create havoc!
 

chrisD

Coach
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They say the game is faster these days, but if a modern team went back and played a game in 2003 they'd get the shit penalised out of them for holding down in every ruck. The way the game has changed makes it so hard to compare.
 

murraymob

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Allan homes have signed on for another 5 years .Our team off the field is killing it as well .We win the comp and it is close to the perfect season
 

Whino

Bench
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Next season Deardon is leaving the Donkeys for the Cows.

How times are changing. I can remember a time when the Broncos wouldn't lose a talented youngster they wanted to keep.
 

Whino

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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/th...the-crosshairs-at-tigers-20210425-p57m9o.html

Michael Maguire equalled Jason Taylor on Sunday as the second-longest serving coach in Wests Tigers history. His record is now worse.

In his 51 games as Wests Tigers coach, Maguire has won just 19 at a rate of 37.3 per cent. Even Taylor, who was sacked just three rounds into the 2017 season in the hope of keeping the now defunct big four, had a better record.

Granted, new coaches are always given time to rebuild, but time is now revealing that this may be more than just a Wests Tigers problem. Perhaps there’s a Michael Maguire problem?

n Maguire’s last 51 games in charge of a star-studded Rabbitohs side, his success rate was even worse (18 wins) than it is now at the Wests Tigers.


The mood in the dressing rooms following a 46-6 loss to Canberra in the nation’s capital four years ago was enough to convince the Tigers to pull the trigger on Taylor. Club hierarchy decided that Taylor had lost the dressing room. They would have been wondering the same thing again after the Anzac Day demolition at the hands of Manly at Bankwest Stadium.

At the time, sacking the coach was a non-negotiable. But what Rabbitohs coach Wayne Bennett has since been able to extract from a 36-year-old Marshall is just one reason why Maguire is no longer on such solid ground.

Maguire’s decision to drop Marshall after round four was the beginning of the end for the Kiwi at the club. Marshall felt so disrespected, and hard done by given his Dally M-leading form over the opening month of the season, that his strong relationship with the coach deteriorated rapidly.

Marshall was so upset with how things played out that he did not want his wife and son at his final game. He even left the match ball that was presented to him inside the change rooms at Bankwest Stadium, and had to be begged to attend the club’s presentation a few nights later.

Maguire would never talk about it publicly, but multiple sources within the club have told the Herald the Tigers coach began to question Marshall’s influence on the team.

Internally, there was a feeling the narrative – that the coach had lost the dressing room – stemmed from Marshall’s discontent towards him. That may have been the case, but perhaps someone at the club should have listened to what was being said, not who was saying it.

The players aren’t without fault, but they don’t appear to be playing for the jersey or the coach. The club held those fears over the summer. It’s why they would only give Maguire a two-year extension if he agreed to specific performance-based clauses that allowed them to spear him without a huge financial hit.

While the Tigers need to be applauded for nabbing some of the best young players in the game, the fact they can’t attract any big name quality players isn’t a good reflection of the coach.

In an interview in the preseason, Maguire tried to sugar-coat it by saying he didn’t want players who were afraid of hard work. Having spoken to several players about the Tigers, the concern isn’t about hard work, but being over-worked.

Since Benji Marshall turned back the clock on Friday night to lead South Sydney to a come-from-behind win against the Titans, questions have been asked as to why the Tigers let him go. But those suggesting the Tigers should have done more to keep Marshall are oblivious to what went on in Marshall’s last season at the club. What he could offer the team on a football field became irrelevant.

The only way Marshall could have stayed at the Wests Tigers and it not blow up in their face was if the club chose him over Maguire. That’s how badly their relationship had soured.
 

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