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Question on Peter V'landys

PVL ...good for RL or not?


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Perth Red

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Generalzod

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probably too much to have expected a little bit of respect and actually officially tell her she was no longer wanted after 13.5 years of volunteer support for the game.
Too busy telling the world how boring afl is, how Sht melbourne is and how he single handedly saved the sporting world I suppose?
Shame he doesn’t have a red cap you could buy colly, it would suit you.
So what’s your real gripe here? Is it Vlandys lack of progress for a Perth team.
 

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How's your Perth team going ?

yeh great, I’m tipping north beach to do well again this year and my Rovers beat Leeds last night, with Storm winning and Hull city being promoted to championship it’s been a cracking weekend despite the lockdown here, thanks for asking.
 

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yeh great, I’m tipping north beach to do well again this year and my Rovers beat Leeds last night, with Storm winning and Hull city being promoted to championship it’s been a cracking weekend despite the lockdown here, thanks for asking.
Perth Red have heard of Tony Collins the writer and podcaster ?
 
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yeh great, I’m tipping north beach to do well again this year and my Rovers beat Leeds last night, with Storm winning and Hull city being promoted to championship it’s been a cracking weekend despite the lockdown here, thanks for asking.
Lol
How's your Perth NRL team going.
Lol lol lol
 

MugaB

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that’s good to hear, yeh were still waiting over here.
Don't worry as soon as SEQ gets sorted, Politis and Florimo will come visit with a black and red jersey...


Then you'll have PR and Stallion barracking for the same team whist hurling insults at each other, while that two headed logan fkwit Grotd chimes in talking smack about how shít the bears brand is, even though he has never watched a bears game in his life or realised that his qld hero's of ben ikin and billy moore used to play for them
 
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PVL should have sent the Sharks to Perth when they needed to be bailed out. If he had have done that it would have sent shivers down the spine of every other sports CEO, especially Soccer Australia and ARU. It would allow the Dragons to attract more fans and players over the next 20 years and become a powerhouse like they were decades ago. Sharks in Perth would lead to more kids in that part of the country playing RL. We already have Perth juniors playing in the NRL, so the potential for it to become a strong base for the game is huge. There's plenty of east coasters and New Zealanders living there. At the moment their only option is RU.
 
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Don't worry as soon as SEQ gets sorted, Politis and Florimo will come visit with a black and red jersey...


Then you'll have PR and Stallion barracking for the same team whist hurling insults at each other, while that two headed logan fkwit Grotd chimes in talking smack about how shít the bears brand is, even though he has never watched a bears game in his life or realised that his qld hero's of ben ikin and billy moore used to play for them
I watched plenty of Bears games between 93 and 99. They had a strong roster with the likes or Florimo, Fenech, Dallas, Moore and Larson. They drew less than 1,000 people to a game they took to Lang Park in 1999. The actual number might have been under 700.

That's some drawing power behind their brand!

No wonder the NRL kicked them out and chose the Sea Eagles over the Bears.

They're not coming back.

The only 2 headed freaks living on the mainland are from NSW.

At least 40 members of a reclusive family in New South Wales were part of one of the worst cases of incest to ever be made public.

Children born from incest in the Colt family, a court pseudonym, were reportedly barely able to speak intelligibly and had deformed features.

Details of the shocking case were revealed by the Sydney Daily Telegraph today after reporting restrictions were lifted by the Children's Court of New South Wales.

The incest was only discovered last year after authorities were alerted that the children were not attending school and officers turned up at the family's camp.

The adults and children allegedly lived in two filthy caravans, two sheds and tents which had no running water and no toilets, showers or baths.

Few of the children were able to speak intelligibly and had deformed features a result of identical gene patterns of both of the children's parents.

The children, who were all shy and made little eye contact, had also not been washed and wore dirty clothes.

A police officer who was one of the first to arrive on the scene said they would "never get over" what they saw there.

The children were taken into care and only after sessions with psychologists did more details of the shocking case emerge that filled pages of court documents.

Thirteen-year-old Kimberly said that she had sexual contact with her nine-year-old uncle Dwayne, while her eight-year-old aunt Carmen watched.

Ruth, a seven-year-old, and her sister nine-year-old sister Nadia said they had sexual touching with brothers Albert, 15. Jed, 14 and Karl, 12.

Interviews with other family members revealed Betty, 46, Martha, 33, and 47-year-old Rhonda's grandparents were brother and sister.

Betty slept every night with her brother Charlie and two of her daughter's each had children that were fathered by a relative.

Betty's 14-year-old son Billy spoke unintelligibly and could barely read or count while her granddaughter Raylene was unable to use toilet paper.

Some of the children have been placed in foster families while others are being treated for psychological trauma and sexualised behaviour.

The children are said to be making progress with their schooling and hygiene and the mothers have allegedly taken different degrees of responsibility.

But The Telegraph says Betty has disputed the court's findings and appears to be in denial.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...ons-of-inbreeding-found-at-filthy-Sydney-camp

 
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Prick is at it again. Titans dare question him on the process of expansion and he responds with another childish outburst about 5 teams in queensland. Good to see Ikin calling him out on it tonight in nrl360.
https://www.couriermail.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=CMWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2021-peter-vlandys-reveals-plan-for-five-qld-teams-to-combat-afl-turf-war/news-story/4ffbc167a03759f70ed010014b047915&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium
Many people in SEQ expect Brisbane to have 3 teams in the medium term, it’s just when PVL mentions it, you’ve lowered yourself to name calling.
 

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Prick is at it again. Titans dare question him on the process of expansion and he responds with another childish outburst about 5 teams in queensland. Good to see Ikin calling him out on it tonight in nrl360.
https://www.couriermail.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=CMWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2021-peter-vlandys-reveals-plan-for-five-qld-teams-to-combat-afl-turf-war/news-story/4ffbc167a03759f70ed010014b047915&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium

Vlandys response to the Titans is 100% correct. They have to think about the game first not some hopeless deadbeat club that is never going to get off of its own arse and come good. The same bludger clubs always complain. Those people that say expansion can only happen if no club is disadvantaged are wrong.
I loved what Vlandys has to say in this article.
 
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Prick is at it again. Titans dare question him on the process of expansion and he responds with another childish outburst about 5 teams in queensland. Good to see Ikin calling him out on it tonight in nrl360.
https://www.couriermail.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=CMWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2021-peter-vlandys-reveals-plan-for-five-qld-teams-to-combat-afl-turf-war/news-story/4ffbc167a03759f70ed010014b047915&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium
What's wrong with Brisbane having 3 teams?

Gold Coast Titans should show some gratitude towards the ARLC for bailing them out when they were in debt to the tune of $35m. The ARLC could have taken their licence and given it to Brisbane 2, Perth or NZ 2.

This article is from last year, but it sums up the club pretty well.

https://realsport101.com/news/just-who-are-the-gold-coast-titans/

26 SEP 2020 3:22 AM +10:00
Just who are the Gold Coast Titans?
By admin

Since their inception in 2007, the Gold Coast has been a struggling club both on and off the field. Here are the problems that lay within the Titans.

The Gold Coast is a beautiful and fun area to visit. It has tonnes of great tourist attractions while some of the beaches are truly magnificent. And as great as it is in so many ways, sports ain't one of them. Rugby League has dipped its foot in here before with the Gold Coast Chargers, however, that was a massive failure as the club was only together for eleven years and it achieved absolutely nothing of note. Over in the AFL the Suns are quickly becoming the laughing stock of their sport, while the Gold Coast's team in the A-League under Clive Palmer was pretty shocking as well.

Now as the NRL is finding out yet again, the Gold Coast just isn't built for sports teams to feasibly do well and achieve success. It's sad, but it's the truth and history is repeating itself with the Titans trying to prove themselves something of a normal club.

However, they are anything but. Here is exactly why the side coached by Garth Brennan and captained by Ryan James, should mean zilch to the league and why they should instead be replaced by a different side.

Laughable membership numbers

In 2015 the Titans had only 11,508 members in their ranks. Over the past four years that has been their highest tally.

Fast forward to 2018 and they're actually down just under 1000 members with only 10,667 signing up for their sides season just past.

For a franchise that changes major sponsors more frequently than their opposition, memberships are a vital way for the club to secure money.

Those numbers just listed do not help their cause at all. While the fact that clubs such as Cronulla and Manly have more members than them and are in far more isolated areas, speaks testament to what exactly is going wrong at the Titans.

Low, low crowds

If Johnathan Thurston didn't play his last ever game up on the Gold Coast, they would have never have had a sell-out crowd in their eleven-year existence.

For a lot of their most recent games (with the exception of that special event), a lot of their games only attracted only roughly 12,000 spectators. That's not a bad effort, but it's still very low within the NRL. While compared to QLD side Brisbane it fairs quite badly and to some extent North Queensland as well.

In a sign of just how small their fanbase actually is, sometimes against the bigger sides like the Broncos they actually outnumber their own fans. Low crowds equate to low gate receipts, reflects badly on the club and it looks poor on TV as well.

Many failures in a short history
Quick question, would anyone of you reading this piece become members and consistently turn up to games if your side constantly produced like the Titans do? I'm guessing probably not a lot of you would which is more than fair enough. The club already has a Wooden Spoon to its name and has featured in the finals only three times. And in addition to the Wooden Spoon, four seasons they've been among the bottom four placed finishing teams. A pretty dreadful record given they have only been in existence for eleven campaigns. And this season they conceded 582 points (third worst in the League).

While there has been some lean, lean years for Gold Coast supporters to endure, making it harder to be a fan of the club is the fact that they are never far away from some off-field controversy. Most clubs unfortunately have it that's the sad norm these days. However, for a young club such as the Gold Coast, it's maybe happened a bit too much for them. Jarryd Hayne and Neil Henry's public fighting with each other saw Henry eventually get the boot and player power get a victory. That was a very bad look for the club while many fans of the game thought it should have been the other way around, myself included.

And while DCE's extreme backflip on the club was not the franchises fault, it certainly didn't help them. Plus two separate cocaine incidents involving Dave Taylor, Ashley Harrison and Greg Bird and then Kevin Proctor some seasons later, especially in the case of the first one, put a massive knife through the heart of the club. Both on and off the field it's not exactly been made the easiest thing in the world to be a supporter of theirs. Included within this list is the clubs 2013-14 Salary Cap issues, although given how small the Titans breach was, the impact was minimal on the side itself and more just created a poorer public perception of the club than anything else.

Instability cruels the club

When it was revealed on the 12th of March 2012, that the club was $35million in debt, a lot of people thought the club would fall over and die because of it. And quite realistically, they should have. However, the team fought and fought for their existence in the Federal Court and won, because here they are today still battling away. And despite being revealed later that they were debt free, that type of poor spending and money mismanagement should have never occurred in the first place, little lone within a professional Australian sporting franchise. And it was only late last year that the NRL gave up control of the Titans to a consortium, among the people within it being Darryl Kelly and Rebecca Frizelle, two people well-known to the club from their previous involvements within it. If you take anything from this however, be it that the NRL had owned it from 2015 and saved the club from becoming extinct and another footnote in the failed and miserable history of Rugby League teams on the Gold Coast. If the NRL is required to do that much for the Titans just so it would survive, then surely it would make more sense for a new and more financially sensible and independent side to take their place?

A player roster lacking star power

When they came into the league they were set with superstar players such as Mat Rogers (11 games for the Kangaroos and 45 tests for the Wallabies) and Preston Campbell (43 tries and one Premiership with the Panthers). However, looking now at their playing roster, the players of most note are Ryan James, Kevin Proctor, Jarrod Wallace and Ashley Taylor.

Besides those players, most of their roster is pretty average with the exception of a few slightly better than average players. They won't be able to do anything much without a star man leading them around. Point in case, the sell-out crowd that came to the Gold Coast last round because it was JT's last game.

Hypothetically if they had secured Daly Cherry-Evans signature, numbers all round would have been boosted for the struggling club. While you only have to look at the impacted numbers crowd and membership wise for the short time Jarryd Hayne was with the club. Going after someone such as Cameron Munster would definitely be a decent option for the club, or maybe James Maloney to a lesser extent. If you have those types of players in your side, they'll help you win games on the field as well as of it as far as numbers are concerned.

There you have it, why the Gold Coast Titans are a nothing club and a waste of space to the NRL. Their history alone shows us why a different club should take their space and try to be more competitive. While everything I've said and or listed just points against them and doesn't work in their favour. The NRL needs to wake up and realise this. A massive apology to Titans fans everywhere but your club just does not function how it should and needs to get the boot.​
 
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Vlandys response to the Titans is 100% correct. They have to think about the game first not some hopeless deadbeat club that is never going to get off of its own arse and come good. The same bludger clubs always complain. Those people that say expansion can only happen if no club is disadvantaged are wrong.
I loved what Vlandys has to say in this article.

You are absolutely 100% correct, like always.

The Titans were gifted a state of the art stadium next to a train station, courtesy of the tax payer, most of whom live in the Greater Brisbane area.

Gold Coast has not embraced this club, despite being given advantages that were denied to the Cowboys. Compare Robina Stadium to Willows, where the Cowboys played from 1995 until 2019. Willows was a greyhound racing track that was converted into a football ground. The players had to help lay the turf to get it ready in time for the club's first ARL game against Canterbury. Compare attendances for Cowboys and Titans. The Cowboys were hopeless on the field over their first decade, but their faithful fans filled Willows.

https://afltables.com/rl/crowds/willows_vn.html

https://afltables.com/rl/crowds/robina_vn.html

https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/teams/north-queensland-cowboys/seasons.html

https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/teams/gold-coast-titans/seasons.html
 
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