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Joshuatheeel

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Only twice out of 11 years, did BA do worse than Anderson's 2010 season....

While BA had a better season after making a GF then Anderson did.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Did Anderson get lucky?

I recall in 2009 Jarryd Hayne won the Dally m Medal.

You could argue our 2009 performance was as much to do with Hayne being fit and at his peak outside of 2014. Then anything to do with coaching.

We also had some junior talent in the side, which all had good seasons.
 

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Did Anderson get lucky?

I recall in 2009 Jarryd Hayne won the Dally m Medal.

You could argue our 2009 performance was as much to do with Hayne being fit and at his peak outside of 2014.

Then anything to do with coaching
In 6 seasons of NRL coaching Anderson made 2 grand finals.

In the Super League he won 3 Challenge Cups, won 1 grand final and made another grand final. Also won a World Club Challenge.

Must be very lucky
 

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I have heard Daniel Anderson talk about 2009 at a function late last year.

He admitted he made some mistakes early on in the year could be a bit similar to Madge atm where he lost the plot at the squad.

And tbf some of our performances at start of 2009 were beyond disgraceful. And the punting of Brett Finch was a positive move.

Finch never grew on me the whole time.

But DA said as momentum grew he actually took more of a back seat and let the players build off it instead of trying to micro-manage everything.

He felt as a coach when you have momentum in the group your best riding the wave them instead of pulling them up with pedantic stuff.

That's what i call smart coaching putting your ego away and just managing the group to express themselves.

His tactics of throwing the game plan in the bin for the Dragons game @ Kogarah in the a dead rubber match to ambush & outsmart Wayne Bennett the following week was legendary stuff.

He said they never watched a replay of that 30-0 drubbing and it was perfect to just let the pressure relief for a week after winning for 8 week straight.
 

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In 6 seasons of NRL coaching Anderson made 2 grand finals.

In the Super League he won 3 Challenge Cups, won 1 grand final and made another grand final. Also won a World Club Challenge.

Must be very lucky
Lucky to never win an NRL grand final? The UK was a four team comp back then. Not exactly hard to win.
 

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His tactics of throwing the game plan in the bin for the Dragons game @ Kogarah in the a dead rubber match to ambush & outsmart Wayne Bennett the following week was legendary stuff.
Bennett had no way of knowing the next week we would go back to throwing offloads until the ball landed with Hayne ffs
 

Joshuatheeel

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Anderson v BA GF side player experience:

Warriors 2002:

NZ test matches 199 games
Origin matches 10 games

total 209

Eels 2009

NZ test matches 61 games
Origin matches 47 games

total 108

BA 2022:

NZ test matches 26
Origin matches 26

total 52

Anderson had a dream run, got lucky with inheriting experienced/quality sides with 4 times and 2 times as much experience as the side BA took to a Gf. But somehow BA can't coach but Anderson could.

BTW, I am of the opinion both could coach. You don't make a GF if you can't coach or come from the back ground that Anderson or BA did.
 
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Was involved with the club in a limited way with a couple of other mates in the time that DA was coach, and saw what was happening, and after 3 rounds of 2009 I put $50 on the Eels to win the wooden spoon. DA didn’t appear to be in coordination with the players, then bang he struck lightning in a bottle, Jarryd Hayne 2009 and the last last 10 games.Hayne dragged the whole club into the GF with some good supporting play from players that DA didn’t rate.

2010 fell back to reality, he just didn’t work at the club. Being honest that’s all.
 

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Was involved with the club in a limited way with a couple of other mates in the time that DA was coach, and saw what was happening, and after 3 rounds of 2009 I put $50 on the Eels to win the wooden spoon. DA didn’t appear to be in coordination with the players, then bang he struck lightning in a bottle, Jarryd Hayne 2009 and the last last 10 games.Hayne dragged the whole club into the GF with some good supporting play from players that DA didn’t rate.

2010 fell back to reality, he just didn’t work at the club. Being honest that’s all.
He didn’t work because he found out they were back stabbing him. The Pirtek mob combined with the slime at head office that was eventually ousted.
 

Joshuatheeel

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He didn’t work because he found out they were back stabbing him. The Pirtek mob combined with the slime at head office that was eventually ousted.
Sounds like the same that happened to BA during late 2015/2016, all the leaking to the media to stuff the side/club over....that then lead to the salary cap crap.....and sacking of the head office/board.....

Credit to BA for the 2016-2018 period for sticking around and getting the eels back on track, with all the outside stuff...
 

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Sounds like the same that happened to BA during late 2015/2016, all the leaking to the media to stuff the side/club over....that then lead to the salary cap crap.....and sacking of the head office/board.....

Credit to BA for the 2016-2018 period for sticking around and getting the eels back on track, with all the outside stuff...
He did some good stuff early on, no doubt however he got just as ‘lucky’ in 2022 as Ando did in 2009. Ando wanted to stick around but never got the opportunity. Big difference.
 

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He did some good stuff early on, no doubt however he got just as ‘lucky’ in 2022 as Ando did in 2009. Ando wanted to stick around but never got the opportunity. Big difference.

BA made the finals 4 years in a row (top 4 twice). That's not luck.

The only luck he had, was the lack of injuries going into the 2022 finals. 2020, we lose our hookers. 2021, we lose 3 starting backs (Fergo, Sivo, Jennings). While 2022 was fairly injury free.
 

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People could say we overacheived with DA in 2009 and if it wasnt for Hayne we wouldnt be close to the finals. But that was a pretty good run. I mean yes Hayne did have an outstanding season but it gave other players a lift especially Moi Moi. They beat some good teams during the run and shocked everyone. We could only wish Melbourne were caught cheating early and maybe who knows what mightve happened. It was still a memorable period that I'll never forget. Ok we lost the GF but gee I felt like we couldve won that. 2001 and 2022 it was over after 20 minutes.

Unfortunately 2010 was similar to 2002, the expectations were high for us and players just didnt recover from the GF loss. Add to the that the big money spent on dud signings (Poore and Dykes) and not replacing players in key positions.
 

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BA made the finals 4 years in a row (top 4 twice). That's not luck.

The only luck he had, was the lack of injuries going into the 2022 finals. 2020, we lose our hookers. 2021, we lose 3 starting backs (Fergo, Sivo, Jennings). While 2022 was fairly injury free.



Id imagine also got lucky with a wooden spoon and we extended him, when we could have got Wayne Bennett or gone elsewhere from 2019. Daniel Anderson, half a season in from a GF , We look to hire a rookie.

Got into to the grand final in 2022 on the back of that horrible forward pass call, ironically making the GF activated a two year extension clause. Bit of luck there too




https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/why-parramatta-knocked-back-wayne-bennett-20201009-p563pv.html​



Why Parramatta knocked back Wayne Bennett​


Parramatta rejected an approach that could have resulted in Wayne Bennett coaching the Eels instead of the Rabbitohs in Saturday night’s finals clash at Bankwest Stadium.
An intermediary acting for Bennett approached Eels chairman Sean McElduff just as the latter was stepping in to replace predecessor Max Donnelly late in the 2018 season. At that point Bennett’s job at Brisbane was on shaky ground, despite having a further season remaining on his contract.

At the same time, Brad Arthur was also a man under pressure. The Eels were expected to go to another level in 2018 after finishing in the top-four the previous season. However, Arthur’s side never got out of the blocks, failing to recover after losing their opening six matches. They finished the season with the wooden spoon, prompting an all-encompassing review which some predicted could cost Arthur his job.
It was in this environment that a meeting was brokered in which a Bennett associate put forward the veteran coach’s desire to coach Parramatta. While countless managers have purported to represent the 70-year-old without his knowledge or consent, the Eels were satisfied this approach was genuine.

The third party expressed Bennett’s desire to work at a major Sydney club and pointed to his unmatched record of seven premierships as proof that he could turn the blue and golds into a genuine contender.

However McElduff, in his first big decision as chairman, had already identified the man he believed would lead Parramatta to grand final glory.
 

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