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Avenger

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I still think we’ll end up cutting him. Every month he stays on our books knocks another $50–60k off the value of his contract for any club that might take it over.
 

Avenger

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What I mean is, if another club was willing to take him for less, we are still paying the difference whether he leaves now or in February.
What I’m saying is this: the longer he stays, the less the acquiring club actually ends up paying, even if they agree to take on the “full contract.” His deal depreciates every month he remains with us. So if a club was willing to take him now for a reduced amount, we’re effectively covering that shortfall anyway—whether he leaves today or in February. Every extra month he’s still here is money we’re absorbing, not them.
 

Poupou Escobar

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What I’m saying is this: the longer he stays, the less the acquiring club actually ends up paying, even if they agree to take on the “full contract.” His deal depreciates every month he remains with us. So if a club was willing to take him now for a reduced amount, we’re effectively covering that shortfall anyway—whether he leaves today or in February. Every extra month he’s still here is money we’re absorbing, not them.
Right but what benefit is there to us to keep him here training when we could just pay him to leave? The gaining club doesn't 'take over his contract', that ends when we pay him out. They would pay whatever they agreed with the player, which is up to him. Whether Matterson leaves now with a payout to February, or stays until February then leaves, it should make no difference to him or his gaining club. In fact, they should prefer him coming now because he gets a longer preseason with them, for the same amount of money. We should prefer it too because he's gone sooner.
 

Soren Lorenson

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What I’m saying is this: the longer he stays, the less the acquiring club actually ends up paying, even if they agree to take on the “full contract.” His deal depreciates every month he remains with us. So if a club was willing to take him now for a reduced amount, we’re effectively covering that shortfall anyway—whether he leaves today or in February. Every extra month he’s still here is money we’re absorbing, not them.
Correct. We might not end up saving much, but it's better than nothing.
 

Soren Lorenson

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Right but what benefit is there to us to keep him here training when we could just pay him to leave? The gaining club doesn't 'take over his contract', that ends when we pay him out. They would pay whatever they agreed with the player, which is up to him. Whether Matterson leaves now with a payout to February, or stays until February then leaves, it should make no difference to him or his gaining club. In fact, they should prefer him coming now because he gets a longer preseason with them, for the same amount of money. We should prefer it too because he's gone sooner.
because we wouldn't be effectively sharing his cost to our cap with another club. Especially if we don't replace him. Or maybe he's not as much of a merkin as we have convinced ourselves that he is and Ryles still sees some value in him.
 

Poupou Escobar

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because we wouldn't be effectively sharing his cost to our cap with another club. Especially if we don't replace him.
We would, because a payout (the amount he would earn between now and February) is the same as paying him to stay until February.
Or maybe he's not as much of a merkin as we have convinced ourselves that he is and Ryles still sees some value in him.
Or there is just not enough benefit in letting him go nine months from the end of his contract. Sure it's probably $400k+, but who could we spend it on for the coming season?
 

Glenneel

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Who gives a flying stuff about Rugby union and what they think of our devlopment programs.

Rugby Australia paid Joseph Suaalii $5million dollars to save the code for a paltry 7 games for the waratahs.

And then the wallabies recorded there most dismal year they ever produced in 126 years where news corp have been giving Suaalii 3,4 or 5 out of 10s in there weekly player ratings on there winless european tour.

He left the game as a State of Origin player and now catching a cold in that shit sport.
Actually was never that impressed with him considering his size so those ratings comes as no surprise to me.
 

Avenger

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Right but what benefit is there to us to keep him here training when we could just pay him to leave? The gaining club doesn't 'take over his contract', that ends when we pay him out. They would pay whatever they agreed with the player, which is up to him. Whether Matterson leaves now with a payout to February, or stays until February then leaves, it should make no difference to him or his gaining club. In fact, they should prefer him coming now because he gets a longer preseason with them, for the same amount of money. We should prefer it too because he's gone sooner.
The problem is he holds all the power, and no one wants him. If we pay him out, it hits our cap for all of 2026, and you can’t negotiate with a tight-arse malingerer like him—he’ll demand every cent. He’s basically the last parting gift from BA.
 

Glenneel

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Nanva is faster. Has better lateral movement. Less power but younger so may end up stronger. He doesn't look for work like Samrani. He misses to many tackles atm but I've seen players do this in cup but step up and defense looks better. Who knows with a big off season. Atleast he has good size. There isn't anything elite about him but he could be solid
Decent defensive systems would help his defence and I think we have that now, or at least the eye test seems to confirm that.

Was looking at our 2022 season and our defence, especially out wide, was pathetic and I have no idea how we made the g/f. Look at our D now, the whole line slides in unison out wide and looks a lot more cohesive.
 

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