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The Las Vegas Thread

i0Nic

i0Nic

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ouwet said:
On the radio news (SEN) PVL is saying Over 20,000 Aussies and 10,000 English are making the trip and a record crowd will be on hand. Let's hope so.
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PVL would know, looking at the ticket sales map it's pretty hard to tell. NRL has been very quiet on ticket sales to date, they might have learned the lesson that it's better to not say anything beforehand - under promise and over deliver.

But now with the event just a few days away maybe he's got the confidence in ticket sales to say it will be bigger than the 45k last year.

I would actually be really surprised if it's bigger than that. I'd be hoping for 40k this year given what I can see from the ticket sales map, general US sentiment, the economy and the teams going.
 
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Dogs Of War said:
You're pretending that it all has to be week 1. While a better time is before Origin when loads of byes are coming up and split rounds and spur interest into Origin which is an event in itself.

If the NFL can organise these events strategically throughout their seasons, no reason why we can't.

The teams play on the Thursday/Friday the week before scheduled to go overseas, play the next week on a Friday/Saturday, and then a bye the week after. It's not rocket science and scheduled in late April, June when Origin is approaching or on it becomes another promotion of the sport itself.

I'm always keen to get the game going better. And with PVL at the helm, he sees opportunities, especially with a product like State Of Origin around which is a great promo for our sport.
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It's just not a good idea.

Of course it can be done, it just shouldn't.
It has very very small positives.

Doing these global games in week one give time to build hype, organize trips , plan recovery, set the comp off on a bang.

It makes no sense doing it during the season, super disruptive to players and fans, no bang, just dread.
It could completey derail a teams seasons.

There's no benefit here.
 
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Gobsmacked said:
It's just not a good idea.

Of course it can be done, it just shouldn't.
It has very very small positives.

Doing these global games in week one give time to build hype, organize trips , plan recovery, set the comp off on a bang.

It makes no sense doing it during the season, super disruptive to players and fans, no bang, just dread.
It could completey derail a teams seasons.

There's no benefit here.
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It's all about money and finding new markets. Just doing round 1 very much limits what we can do. And moving more of round 1 when we have already had no footy for a few months, isn't great for them either.

Which is why the target in the middle of the season when fans watch on TV more and ground attendances are lower due to it being the middle of winter and all and there are plenty of byes, and it sells into State Of Origin as well, is the perfect time for these sorts of things.
 
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Marketing has gone into overdrive but reckon they left it a week too late

Still interesting seeing randoms talking about league who don’t normally do so

Like origin great way to get the rest of Australia (and Union fans around the world) watching rugby league

It’s funny seeing Union fans after it praising the nrl for how good it promotes the sport and what a spectacle it is vs their events
 
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Dogs Of War said:
It's all about money and finding new markets. Just doing round 1 very much limits what we can do. And moving more of round 1 when we have already had no footy for a few months, isn't great for them either.

Which is why the target in the middle of the season when fans watch on TV more and ground attendances are lower due to it being the middle of winter and all and there are plenty of byes, and it sells into State Of Origin as well, is the perfect time for these sorts of things.
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No it isn't.
you have sides without their stars because they're playing Origin, fan engagement goes down because interest in Origin peaks along with all the talent involved. People are anticipating Origin, QLD and NSW become center of the RL universe and you're flying to the other side of the planet?

Terrible idea, nobody from here will go or be interested when it's in the shade of Origin,played at a shitty time on the other side of the world.

Players and coaches will be absolutely ropable that their season is completely upended, back to back jet lag.. cost..
No club will want to go, you'd have to force them..you think people complain about the draw now? Wait until they get told they have to travel to England! Mid season!

Please let it go.
 
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Gobsmacked said:
No it isn't.
you have sides without their stars because they're playing Origin, fan engagement goes down because interest in Origin peaks along with all the talent involved. People are anticipating Origin, QLD and NSW become center of the RL universe and you're flying to the other side of the planet?

Terrible idea, nobody from here will go or be interested when it's in the shade of Origin,played at a shitty time on the other side of the world.

Players and coaches will be absolutely ropable that their season is completely upended, back to back jet lag.. cost..
No club will want to go, you'd have to force them..you think people complain about the draw now? Wait until they get told they have to travel to England! Mid season!

Please let it go.
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I will give you a newsflash. I don't make the decisions. That's on PVL.
 
i0Nic

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Yeah I gotta say even though it’s more limiting doing it round 1 it starts the year off with a bang and gives us clear oxygen to do so. Come middle of the year some teams form drops off which will impact interest if they’re playing overseas, there’s origin and finals around the corner to look forward to. It will get lost.

Keep a global round in round 1 where there is a fresh start to the season and optimism.
 
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shadowformz said:
Shit ........ Hope he never leaves our game.
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Australian tennis open boss is leaving to the USA open. new job
he has transformed Australian open tennis into a mega millions tennis event. every one in tennis love's it
rated the best Grand slam in the world by Far. tickets for the Melbourne tennis. upward near $1.500 per seat
massive profits now
and it's getting bigger
 
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Dogs Of War said:
Yep everything gets streamlined in the experience. Including what events add value and what was just a money sink, hotels now competing for business as it's shown to not be a one off so they want to become a preferred partner.

It's not a surprise with PVL. As I said previously, I worked with him at Harold Park Trotting track, and he turned that place around and made it a venue to go to, when trotters weren't cool. No surprise that after he left it just tracked downhill until it closed down.
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real estate land vulture's as well
Inner City land. Harold Park trots
 
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I wonder what the atmosphere would be in Vegas considering most Canadians have boycotted the place over Trump’s stance on tariffs.
 
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London should not be on the table right now. It is freezing in Feb/March, the time zones are poor for Australian viewers. Even mid-season the logistics are nuts and it would be a huge mistake.

If you are going to add overseas games to the opening NRL round (zero) then you do your homework and phase it in gradually. It would make sense to add a Tokyo, Singapore or Hong Kong in 2027 or 2028. These places are popular travel destinations for Australians and UK fans - the latter two having lots of ex-pats too, plus the timezone is perfect for home TV networks.

It means you could have an opening round zero with 4 games featuring 8 teams (two on Saturday in Tokyo and two on Sunday in Vegas) - all in Aussie prime tv time. Perth coming in means the following week also has five fixtures before round two features everyone.

I also think, in the current political climate, playing anywhere outside Las Vegas is nuts. Anyone who has been to Vegas knows it has a bit of a resort bubble feel and it works well for overseas fans right now. You are not going to get 20,000 fans travelling to Texas or Miami in the same way. It was happenstance, but NRL has worked in Vegas the same way huge boxing events of the past used to work.
 
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Tokyo makes a whole heap of sense.

I would also expand to a global round gradually.

Keep Vegas. Add Tokyo as it’s a great Timezone, already has rugby interest and is an ideal holiday destination.

Add Middle East for the cash and novelty interest.

Keep it to locations that will yield results for the nrl and less risky.

All of a sudden you can have a global round with 2x Vegas, Tokyo, Dubai, Perth, Auckland, 2x Sydney, PNG. Done. Pair up with super league to create double headers in Tokyo and Dubai

Eventually they can shift away from a couple of the AU games and spread to riskier locations like Singapore, Paris and LA

I’m also certain that part of this global round talk and taking games to Miami is PVL angling the Nevada government to pay big bucks to the nrl for the next deal. Now that the nrl have established a yearly event that attracts 30,000+ international visitors to Vegas they will be pushing for a much bigger fee next time - or risk losing out to another US city.
 
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i0Nic

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Rugby league las Vegas is generating $100-200M+ US to the Nevada economy. 30,000+ international sports mad visitors spending 5/6 days in your city hotels, restaurants, casinos is no small fry. From what I understand the Nevada government is giving the equivalent of free rent to the NRL for using allegiant stadium and that’s it.

I’d imagine the NRL will be asking for 10, 20, 30M per year for this event moving forward, the ROI is still fantastic for Nevada.

I can imagine the nrl doing a deal with Nevada of 100M revenue for the next 5 years to host and it would be massive news here in Australia. Not only would it continue to be a massive season opener part of a global round but a revenue generating machine for the nrl as well. Once you add in the sponsors etc which will keep growing that fee will be pure profit for the nrl.

if it could grow overseas viewership/fans and gambling revenue that would be icing on the cake.

Now imagine this business case being put to UAE, Japan and others. A global round could generate 40-60M revenue in a single year for the NRL PLUS all the publicity benefits and halo effect on the rest of the season.

Within a 5 year cycle all of a sudden the NRL could be making 200m direct revenue from the global round, on top of the after effects of increased viewership, gambling revenue etc

Would make the fumblers froth. They literally have nothing to compete with this and no chance to make this kind of impact or revenue from such events. Who is gonna pay the AFL to host that pasttime in their country, India?
 
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