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Only so much can be done. And in life there are sometimes no solutions, only management. And no wrong has been done in managing this.
It was way different. 
pffft. all things considered, what can you do to make it better. more punishment?
I just do not see a direct correlation with making things right as to the punishment society can offer.
Even back in the day when someone did something to annoy you or much worse, and you killed him with your sword or firearm, what true good comes of it?
I'd like to highlight to you the deeper levels happening here. I am not saying he deserves to continue like he is: someone needs to stop him. But how can you save a man from himself?
He plays football and honestly, I don't agree that the world should (or will) spare him consequences, but all he is guilty of is lifting his glass to his mouth one too many times. Sure, he was over, and he could have hurt or injured someone (being more likely is all as anytime you drive is a danger potentially).
BUT in this case, from an NRL point of view....all things considered, best to let it publicly slip and fade away, and have a quiet word in his ear.
For instance the ramifications of this: will make me surprised if we see him in the spotlight too much more than is worthy considering his past. I.e They will be hoping he fades into obscurity [if he cant pull it together]. So its like walking a tightrope
Which brings us back to, just what do you do? Its either rub him out forever, or hope he comes good. I believe the best option was made. Its probably prudent to not waste any more time on this man. U wont save him from himself as only he can. And to prolong the matter seems an unjust taint.
Personally I called it a slip on his behalf. He was a terrible alcoholic and now he has kinda changed his ways I guess mistakes are bound to happen. Good luck Mr Carney.
Its his right to have a whinge (of hassler), but what good will it do, and who knows by what tone Hassler used when he whinged. Newspapers are iffy to me.
While this may be true to some extent, consider the wider effects each has on the image of the game. AND I SEEM to remember him doing a LITTLE BIT more than just getting drunk and hoping in a cab. He was clearly out of line, mate. Making a fool of himself to girls and guys alike. IN your version, apparently he was getting drunk at a table all by himself, and they walked up to him and asked him to leave. I can tell you right now, mate, that did not happen
Thats also what a suspension is about. I believe that Stewart was suspended for being drunk AND getting involved in all of that, even though he was acquitted, but his innocence was not known at the time. Even I said the girl was crazy after one newspaper report. I can read between the lines with the best of them. But hey, the guy still brought the game into disrepute. Thats what changed the intensity of his bad behavior - its effect on the game.
The fact is, overall, decisions are made with the games integrity in mind. If you want to get drunk a lot and be an idiot in public, de-register yourself!
Thats why I have no problem with these suspensions and non-suspensions ultimately. One eye had a good point as well.
Same thing as one eye, actually.....like guys, dont go head hunting. As administrators they are custodians of the entity of rugby league. IF you are a player in this competition, you owe it to the competition to behave as best you can. Of course in these days of less responsibility its hard to make everyone realize that THEY themselves are apart of the entity that is the NRL. Society is in a state of unbalance, and newspaper reporting has become to nosy its soaked in everywhere. I bet years ago players got up to muck as well. But its not on anymore. Sport has penetrated so many levels of society. The sooner they realize the privilege they have nowadays the better.
Its really a case now of the things that you own end up owning you. Such as top level sport. The game that you play ends up making you play an even bigger game. There is no legal ownus on behaving and making the nrl seem like a better place, but to most levels of morality, this would seem like a required thing to do. Am I expecting too much? Maybe, but the ideal is nice. At least we still have a situation whereby those who really tarnish the nrls image are punished. And ffs, nothing wrong has happened in this case.
Also the status quo of jumping on these guys back is a bit rough. This is coming from the other direction. Sometimes you gotta cut them some slack. Dictators and over-eager executioners play a losing game in the long run.
Good luck Todd. If I were an administrator looking at this thread, I'd be saying "You can't please everyone."
And I do not think people demonise alcoholics unless they are consistently violent and dangerous. Its not like this is super urgent in that regard. As far as we know, he has it under control and its a slip. last thing he needs is a bucketload of pressure sending him right back to the bottle. Because as I understand it, they drink to escape reality and negative feelings unlike most people who drink to lift their mood once in a while in measured and controlled doses.
I will add that this understanding of things does not mean I am going soft or whatever word you like to put to it. Its no excuse. I firmly believe that if he makes another mistake of any large nature, he should be gone forever. He needs to grow up if thats the case, but he won't do it in the NRL. Once more and he should be gone forever.
We need to go through a period where we will sacrifice a potentially really good player for the image of the game and our high standards, and drive a generational message home.
Mark
p.s the reality is tho, he didnt drive home drunk, he got a lift home and woke up, showered then went out in the morning. unlucky. and a media beat up of sorts. still, the nrl has a reputation to uphold and he is a past offender.
good luck todd......p- plater, too, eh..... hahahaha. u idiot.
Rub this dude out ffs.
YES....i write to show you double standards. NOW WHICH STANDARD WOULD U LIKE TO UPHOLD? THERE ARE SO MANY HERE.
----> HOW about we just keep people like todd out of the game if they cant handle not acting like they own the world and think they can do what they like? screw todd, we love the nrl too much. let another youngster take his disrespected place.
dont be a P.O.S todd, smarten up. You will be forgotten in a few short months should you leave, or would you prefer to make your place in history? As the hill gets harder to climb, todd, make your choice wisely. The fall sux even more after a tough climb, lad. The wolves will circle and bite you in the ass until you are obscure once more. Then what will you have? Thats right, todd, you will have the bottom of a bunch of freaking empty liquor bottles and shattered dreams. A hollow shell and a wasted life.
But you know, in saying that, it highlights that its really his chance to shine now. And many people believe in him and know he can do it. Personally I think he can too. Would not want any young man to tread that dark path.
This is hilarious guys. I dislike Manly but that has nothing to do with them. The Roosters earn my ire just as much as Manly in case you forgot - and I don't much like Todd Carney.
His point would be totally valid... had the NRL or Manly punished Watmough in any way shape or form for his speeding offence. Which, for the record, was far more dangerous than what Carney did.
WTF does anyone being a moderator have to do with anything? We're all members first, entitled to opinions. Moderator has nothing to do with it.I'm sick of the stupid reactions that come out of some parts of the moderators here... why don't you SHUT THE F**K UP!
What, posting a banner? :lol: You're acting as if I uploaded a video of myself in a Dragons jersey on youtube jumping around like a fruitcake. I posted a banner for their fans to use and that was that. Other people decided it was some sort of dedication to their club, not me. See the banners in my signature, the jersey in my avatar? Get a clue.
