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The TV rights thread

Who would you like to see get the rights providing the price is right?

  • Seven

    Votes: 57 20.5%
  • Nine

    Votes: 49 17.6%
  • Ten

    Votes: 110 39.6%
  • Rights split between FTA channels

    Votes: 147 52.9%

  • Total voters
    278
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Perth Red

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The players are fat enough from the pie as it is, chucking more money at them isn't going to make the game any better.

I'd give club grant of $6mill and increase the salary cap:
2013 $4.75mill
2014 $5mill
2015 $5.5mill
 

bobmar28

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you think as a reformed alcoholic he could have spent the money he isn;t spending on grog on a Fox subscription!

I'd take:

$400mill Fox for 4 live games
$200mill Ch9 for Friday night games
$200mill Ch10 Sunday games
$150 mill SOO, major finals, GF and Tests - whoever wants them
$75mill Internet and Mobile rights

That'd do me!

I hope it turns out that way. That's 1.25 billion, same as AFL.
 

russ13

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Here's an interesting UK article about the problems of giving Pay TV an increased monopoly share of the broadcast of games:

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...It cannot seriously be denied that the professional game, and the Premier League in particular, dictates to the rest of English football. However, Sky's money has so disproportionately enriched the professional minority that although the professional and non-professional games have equal votes on the FA's main board, the reality is different and will remain so without government intervention.



You may say that as Sky has no control over the administration of football, it is innocent. Strictly speaking that is true, but the effects flow from Sky's actions and they have to shoulder some responsibility, however indirectly. You cannot claim to have saved football and deny the inconvenient consequences.



Minority sports' problems are different, but no less important. Sky's money increases the amount that can be spent on developing the sport, but the numbers of viewers decreases dramatically. Minority sports need more money and exposure to grow but they cannot have both.



Rugby demonstrates this point fully. When Sky won exclusive rights to show England's Five, now Six Nations Championship matches, the viewing figures were a fraction of the BBC numbers. The Home Unions Committee – France and Italy have separate deals – were alarmed by the decrease in exposure.


They were also aware of numerous complaints about rugby not being free-to-air and the contract returned to the BBC. The viewers on Sky for the last round of games in the Heineken Cup, a top quality European club tournament, varied between 100,000 and 185,000. This year's England v France game had a peak audience of over 9 million on the BBC.



Cricket also faces this dilemma. Sky's money has led to better salaries for professional cricketers and money for the amateur game. Without it, cricket would struggle to maintain its present development initiatives, but far fewer people see cricket and as such its public profile has been lost.



Another unintended side effect is that Sky's money has allowed the ECB to duck the decision about how many counties should play professionally. Privately, practically everyone thinks the present number should be halved, allowing the distilled talent to compete more intensively.



It is no secret that News Corp, Sky's majority shareholder, is vehemently against the protected list of sporting events in the UK which mandates certain events must be shown on terrestrial, free to air. The retention of the list means that events that go beyond sport and have a wider social relevance can be seen by everybody.


This would not be the case if Sky owned the rights because there are millions of people who cannot afford Sky. The basic sports package for the 15 million people still to get Sky is £39.75 per month, or £477 annually, from which Sky's profit margin is about £17 per month. The amount spent on sport, including sports rights and production, out of each licence fee of £145.50, is around £15.



Whatever your view of terrestrial and satellite sports coverage, you cannot honestly ignore the fact that the latter is far more expensive.



Furthermore, if Sky succeeds in its quest to deregulate sports broadcasting it will effectively become a monopoly broadcaster because of its financial position


. The BBC cannot increase its bidding power and the failure of ITV Digital and Setanta shows that any other broadcaster would need billions of pounds to challenge Sky.


Even so, it would be naive in the extreme to believe that Sky would not increase the cost of sports viewing further.



Ultimately, British viewers can have whatever sports broadcasting they want, but if it turns out to be much more expensive they cannot say they were not warned.



Furthermore, there will be no way back.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...s-coverage-but-at-a-price-for-the-viewer.html
 

flippikat

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Here's an interesting UK article about the problems of giving Pay TV an increased monopoly share of the broadcast of games:

Extract
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...s-coverage-but-at-a-price-for-the-viewer.html

If you want to see the extreme end of this, you only need to come here to New Zealand.

Sky here has all the rights to all games live (even channel 9's delayed games - we take a direct feed).

the only Free to air coverage is on Prime (rugby union and league), and for the NRL this means 2 games FTA per weekend,each screened at 11.30pm.

also, Prime is owned by Sky, so there's no restrictions on one company having pay and FTA rights.

Good coverage if you can afford pay TV like me.. In fact better than you get in Australia.

But if you can't afford it then it's almost impossible to follow sport.
 

babyg

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Gotta get the two Anzac Day games on Fta. Makes a great day of footy watching. The Storm Warriors games adds an international feel. Would rate in Victoria if given a chance.
 

parano1a

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Gotta get the two Anzac Day games on Fta. Makes a great day of footy watching. The Storm Warriors games adds an international feel. Would rate in Victoria if given a chance.

Storm v Warriors could actually rate okay down here if given a chance. Forget about the Roosters game though, it wouldn't rate even 5% of what the Essendon v Collingwood game gets in Melbourne.

Consistent coverage of Storm games is the starting point.
 

CC_Roosters

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Here's an interesting UK article about the problems of giving Pay TV an increased monopoly share of the broadcast of games:

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...s-coverage-but-at-a-price-for-the-viewer.html

Honestly sky s**ts all over any other sports coverage in the UK. The SL is actually the second highest rating sport behind EPL but gets peanuts compared to union which rates very poorly. It would be a blessing for league though if the other FTA channels like 3,4,5 paid out for league though as not enough SL on FTA and they have bugger all sport atm

The EPL's money from sky has probably peaked tbh though. Without massive changes like FNF and ad breaks it wont get any more lucrative.
 

bobmar28

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This is a separate issue but does anyone know what happened to the NRL coverage on America One? I see they still have Super League.
 
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Raiderdave

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We wont get the same money off foxtel.... And I completely understand why. Reading Big Poofy, hardly any of them have fox. Fox is showing every single game live. There is talk channel 7 will still show some of the games on delay.

The AFL's greed has completely f**ked them. Fox will get a massive subscription uptake... If people don't they won't be able to watch the footy.

they'll be able to watch 4 live on FTA on 7 ?:?

about the same amount they can now
how will that encourage anyone to subscribe anymore then they do now ?
I don't think it will....

a massive gamble by Fox .. paying as much as they are going to with no assurances it will increase subscriptions
 
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applesauce

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they'll be able to watch 4 live on FTA on 7 ?:?

about the same amount they can now
how will that encourage anyone to subscribe anymore then they do now ?
I don't think it will....

a massive gamble by Fox .. paying as much as they are going to with no assurances it will increase subscriptions

Add to that the 4 on FTA will be simulcast live on Fox, with the ads!!!

What is the drawcard for anyone who doesn't already have it...?
 

cleary89

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Live on fox, 7 havent commited to live and wont when better homes and gardens out rates it by more than double.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/channel-7-wins-afl-tv-rights/story-e6frf9jf-1226045092567

Channel 7 close in on TV rights

Mark Stevens, Tony Sheahan
From: Herald Sun
April 26, 2011 3:12PM

CHANNEL Seven and Foxtel are poised to be announced as the winners of the AFL TV rights for the next five years.

It is understood both Seven and Fox have reached an in-principle agreement with the league, with an official announcement likely once the Easter round of AFL matches is complete.

Once the deal is announced, Seven is likely to sub-licence one or two games to either Channel Nine or Channel 10.

That outcome of any sub-licence talks remains murky, but Nine is believed have its nose in front as the most likely show at least one game.

As reported in the Herald Sun yesterday, Channel 10 looms as the biggest loser.

The Herald Sun understands some club officials have been briefed on the Seven/Foxtel result.

please be true

will mean Ten will defo want the RL
 
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