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The Mayhem Of Jarryd Hayne - Is He A 6 Or A 1?

Casper The Ghost

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I had to get this off my shoulders, its been bugging me for weeks. Hope you are reading this Jarryd because I really feel you need a wake up call.

The Mayhem Of Jarryd Hayne - Is He A 6 Or A 1?

One of our biggest current issues is creating an attacking formation where all players instinctively fall into position without having to remember to do so, so that they do not interfere with Jarryd Hayne's time and space when he suddenly, instinctively, becomes the 6 on either side of the ruck, whenever it happens. What a pain in the ass this must be for some of our players!

As we saw last night, Robson and Casey were both crippling Jarryd with reduced time & space, and with other players, mainly forwards, providing clutter and very little clean fast ball for Jarryd to execute any of his many attacking skills.

Some of the forwards and backs were actually getting in the way leading to a cramping up of space where Jarryd was severely restricted from having time, space and freedom to execute his moves.

Compounding this problem is Jarryd with ball in hand generally has three defenders already coming at him no matter where he is on the park. So time, space & zero clutter is very important for Jarryd to perform within.

This all leads to a few issues, is Jarryd a 6 or 1?

Or is it the quality of the present 6 and 7 and a few of our forwards not having the right brain-power to create the correct environment, the right attacking formation, everytime, for Jarryd to step in and perform whenever he feels the pull of inspiration to do so in the moment.

To avoid accidents and mayhem, we created round-a-bouts , traffic cops and street lights to deal with major traffic issues so that everything can run smoothly IF EVERYONE FOLLOWS THE ROAD RULES. So how can our squad of 17 do what street lights, traffic cops and round-a-bouts do on a permanent basis if any of our players are not 100% switched on for 80 minutes. In this exhausting physically taxing game, players are regularly catching breath, are often dealing with niggling painful injuries that mess with ones concentration in any given moment. They have to contend with short game turnarounds of usually 5 days and there are other disruptions for our players brains to contend with like an opposing team out enthusing them as we witnessed last night.

After the last minute loss to Manly last Monday night all the players were very cranky about losing this game. So come last night, they were all prepared to make up for that loss with a win. They knew they had to deliver the standard of footy they had been presenting for the past month.

But what happens if things just don't work out as planned, as we saw last night????? Chaos, mayhem, disruption, disorganisation, shit plays, shit kick returns, charge downs, confusion, etc, etc. Basically a crap game that was really ugly to watch.

Is Jarryd a 6 or 1 not a recipe for disaster like the one we experienced last night?

How can we expect all our players brains to perform like clockwork, all synchronised with each other for 80 minutes, particularly to Jarryd's sudden in the moment burst of inspiration whenever it appears???

This is almost impossible to achieve week in week out for at least 7 months of a season not disregarding finals footy if we are ever good enough to get there.

How are we going to be a successful finals footy team while Jarryd is vacillating between being a 6 or a 1? This confusion that hangs like a dark cloud over the squad will not allow our team to win enough games to both get in the finals and be a serious threat for the championship. This is a fact.

The remedy to this problem is very simple, move Jarryd Hayne to 6 and there he stays for the rest of his career. This takes away a fair bit of pressure from all our forwards and backs having to accommodate Jarryd's genius, switching from 1 to 6, whenever it suddenly arrives in the moment.

We can't expect our team to win the tight games when our team is not on song as we saw last night. But, if Jarryd was our 6 all season, we stand a better chance of winning games like the ones we lost and drew over the past month. Eliminating the confusion of Jarryd switching from a 1 to 6 can only simplify our overall game plan and Jarryd's game as well, allowing for those precious moments, where instead of Jarryd and the team are having to switch attacking formations for the 30th time in a game, Jarryd is already putting a player through a hole to score or he has cut through or barged over to score.

These precious moments saved in comforting Jarryd's love for 1, becomes the attacking arsenal we need to win games when Jarryd is most needed. He is one of the best players in the world. I feel that once he becomes a permanent six he will become the best player in the world and be the next immortal rolling off the NRL production line, if not the greatest of them all

Wake up Jarryd and wake up coach, it's time to clear up all the mayhem and get on with winning games we should never have to lose if Jarryd was our permanent 6.

Casper The Ghost
 
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TheParraboy

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tresurehunt

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the thing jarryd has to realize is everything he does doesn't have to be brilliant,he just needs to do his job.i think he tries to polish every play sometimes, eg. 40/20,
 

JoeyJoJo83

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Both, he is currently doing everything a fullback does except supporting the forwards up the middle cause he finds himself coming into the attacking line to create attacking opportunities.
 

sam54no

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As much as i didn't want Sandow at our club, now i can't wait for him and Roberts to be here.
Hayne will be so much better when he doesn't have all the pressure on him.
 

Eels Dude

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He can play both if required. The reason he takes more playmaking responsibility than a normal fullback is because he has the ability too, and our halves our shit. He plays like Lockyer when he played fullback.
 

Casper The Ghost

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The issue I am pointing out of 1 or 6 is the obvious effect it has on his team mates. How do they adjust when he switches add-lib. We saw heaps of this confusion last year as we have witnessed quite a few times this year as well, particularly the train wreck last Saturday night. We can all go on about our preference and reasons why Jarryd should be a 1 or a 6 but this does not resolve the mayhem that occurs. It is so easy to blame the 7 or 6 (Robson, Mortimer, Casey) when shit happens but often their poor play is due to the Jarryd confusion that occurs in those few moments of decay. Our game will improve out of sight if Jarryd just took the 6 by the throat and started taking control of the team and the game and get on with being the great player and leader we all know he is. Then all the confusion will be gone. He is hiding behind the fleet-footed 1 roll because he does not want to take on the responsibility of being the Wally-Lewis like superstar he already has within him. Number 1 is his sucking the dummy & no 6 is when he spits out the dummy and has grown up, taking full-responsibility for his game.
 
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Suitman

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The issue I am pointing out of 1 or 6 is the obvious effect it has on his team mates. How do they adjust when he switches add-lib. We saw heaps of this confusion last year as we have witnessed quite a few times this year as well, particularly the train wreck last Saturday night. We can all go on abut our preference and the reasons why Jarryd should be a 1 or a 6 but this does not resolve the mayhem that occurs. It is so easy to blame the 7 or 6 (Robson, Mortimer, Casey) when shit happens but often their poor play is due to the Jarryd confusion that occurs in those few moments. Our game will improve out of sight if Jarryd just took the 6 by the throat and started taking control of the team and the game and get on with being the great player we all know he is. Then all the confusion will be gone.

Confusion? Mayhem?

Get a grip young Casper!!

Suity
 

Casper The Ghost

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Confusion? Mayhem?

Get a grip young Casper!!

Suity

Jarryd is a natural born leader - our team does not have one. This is our confusion and our major issue. Once Jarryd steps forward and takes control everything else will fall into place. It's in the psyche of the players, it's instinctive and it's natural. He is there to be the eels leader but he shy's away from this. Time for Jarryd to step forward and the premierships will start coming. So what he has to do more tackles and gets more scratches and bruises at 6. He will build that match fitness at 6 and come later next year he will be almost unstoppable.
 

Casper The Ghost

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1. Sio or Humble
6. Hayne
7. Sandow
9. Superstar coming or Keating

This is a premisership looking spine. Sio is a fantastic player and there are others coming through from Toyota Cup who can play at 1 when ready. Roberts is a back up as is Humble unless he makes his claim over the 1 during the rest of this season.
 

watatank

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the way the game is heading with five eighths and fullbacks these days is that the five eighth is more like a halfback with fullback becoming that a traditional five eighth role

so it will probably suit Hayne to stay at fullback
 

Eels Dude

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Honestly, that is one of the better looking spines in the competition, adding Mcguire and Keating to the mix too, with Humble, Mortimer or possibly Barba for the bench utility spot.

Hmmm it is a solid spine but lucky to make it in the top 50%. The 1. and 7. are great, the 6. and 9. are just ok. Roberts isn't even a first grader at the moment remember.
 

Casper The Ghost

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Confusion? Mayhem?

Get a grip young Casper!!

Suity

You beat me to the edit - added a bit more info..

The issue I am pointing out of 1 or 6 is the obvious effect it has on his team mates. How do they adjust when he switches add-lib. We saw heaps of this confusion last year as we have witnessed quite a few times this year as well, particularly the train wreck last Saturday night. We can all go on about our preference and reasons why Jarryd should be a 1 or a 6 but this does not resolve the mayhem that occurs. It is so easy to blame the 7 or 6 (Robson, Mortimer, Casey) when shit happens but often their poor play is due to the Jarryd confusion that occurs in those few moments of decay. Our game will improve out of sight if Jarryd just took the 6 by the throat and started taking control of the team and the game and get on with being the great player and leader we all know he is. Then all the confusion will be gone. He is hiding behind the fleet-footed 1 roll because he does not want to take on the responsibility of being the Wally-Lewis like superstar he already has within him. Number 1 is his sucking the dummy & no 6 is when he spits out the dummy and has grown up, taking full-responsibility for his game.
 

Casper The Ghost

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the way the game is heading with five eighths and fullbacks these days is that the five eighth is more like a halfback with fullback becoming that a traditional five eighth role

so it will probably suit Hayne to stay at fullback

Being at 6 he controls the forwards and the backs - being at 1 leaves it to other players to perform the organising.
This "leaving it to others" is at the heart of all our "ENGINE" problems.
Who cares how the 1 roll is evolving into as 6 etc.
Jaryd needs to take control of the engine, take the steering wheel, the accelerator, the clutch, the brakes and the hand brakes.
Take Full-Control of the team, it's in his nature to do so so we must let him be!
 

Casper The Ghost

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Hope you are reading this Jarryd because you know what I am sharing to be true.
You are top dog, you can't help yourself wanting to be top dog, but you bury it,
so stop wrestling with this and be it. You are the best. Nothing wrong with that.
We are all great at something - you are great at 6. Be It.
 
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