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Four game losing streak

Poupou Escobar

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Why the big deal bitch?

Plenty of coaches have lost four games in a row. The NRL record is 13 straight, which has been done four times since 2005.

Shit coaches you say?

How about Wayne Bennett? This useless merkin has lost 8 in a row, not once but two times - in '03 and '06 (the year he won the comp).

He lost five in a row as recently as last year.

Why is our four in a row - without Jarryd Hayne - such a surefire indicator of TEH EELS IN CRISIS?
 

Eels Dude

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1) We've not won a game yet and have gone backwards since last year

2) Other teams who copped those losing streaks you're referring were labelled in crisis too

3) It's not just a 0/4, it's 2 of our last 17.

4) It's not just that we've lost, it's the manner in which we've lost.
 

Noise

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Why the big deal bitch?

Plenty of coaches have lost four games in a row. The NRL record is 13 straight, which has been done four times since 2005.

Shit coaches you say?

How about Wayne Bennett? This useless merkin has lost 8 in a row, not once but two times - in '03 and '06 (the year he won the comp).

He lost five in a row as recently as last year.

Why is our four in a row - without Jarryd Hayne - such a surefire indicator of TEH EELS IN CRISIS?

Fair point, but are there many coaches that have started with a record of 6-28 and kept their jobs and then gone onto a successful coaching career?
 
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IFR33K

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Why the big deal bitch?

Plenty of coaches have lost four games in a row. The NRL record is 13 straight, which has been done four times since 2005.

Shit coaches you say?

How about Wayne Bennett? This useless merkin has lost 8 in a row, not once but two times - in '03 and '06 (the year he won the comp).

He lost five in a row as recently as last year.

Why is our four in a row - without Jarryd Hayne - such a surefire indicator of TEH EELS IN CRISIS?


Poo by name.

Poo by nature.
 

TheParraboy

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Why the big deal bitch?

Plenty of coaches have lost four games in a row. The NRL record is 13 straight, which has been done four times since 2005.

Shit coaches you say?

How about Wayne Bennett? This useless merkin has lost 8 in a row, not once but two times - in '03 and '06 (the year he won the comp).

He lost five in a row as recently as last year.

Why is our four in a row - without Jarryd Hayne - such a surefire indicator of TEH EELS IN CRISIS?

2006 he lost 5 in a row not 8 for the Broncos

in 2003 they still made the semis


so which one is it for us? semis or win the comp this year?
 

Poupou Escobar

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1) We've not won a game yet and have gone backwards since last year

The fact we haven't won a game just means we started our losing streak in round 1. Why is a four game losing streak that starts in round 1 any worse than one that starts in round 20?

And last year we lost seven in a row before beating the Titans, so we're hardly doing worse.

I'd back us to make the semis with Hayne playing 20 games this year but I would expect us to lose every game without him.

2) Other teams who copped those losing streaks you're referring were labelled in crisis too

But were they? They all came out the other side didn't they?

3) It's not just a 0/4, it's 2 of our last 17.

You're blurring two seasons together though. Last year we had shit halves and this year we've had key injuries.

It's happened to Wayne Bennett, why not Kearney too?

4) It's not just that we've lost, it's the manner in which we've lost.

I think most teams on a losing streak are going to lose confidence and have a couple of big scores racked up against them. It's a credit to us last year that we kept losing in close ones (Souths game aside).

We're still very much in it this season, and if Hane plays against Manly we'll beat them well - a couple of injuries and they've fallen in a heap too.
 

half

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sk was wrong

we didn't have a loser mentality

we had a choker mentality

now we have a loser mentality

and i preferred choking tbh

he's already lost more games than hagan

and needs 20 wins to equal hagan

i can't see that happening

hagan said he didn't have his heart in the job

but clearly it's worse not to have a brain for the job

sk was a poor investment

and it's not going to get any better while he's in charge

and you've gotta be a f**kin' idiot not to see that
 

phantom eel

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0-4 is no big deal in itself. The stats only tell half the story.

We lost 7 straight last season (Rounds 19-25), but at least we were competing during that time.

It's the nature of the defeats in the four games this year that is the worry - the last two in a row are up there with the worst performances we've seen for many years. The roster and the coach should be ashamed. Both need to take responsibility, but ultimately you shouldn't change an entire roster over a period of years to prop up an unproven underperforming coach.

The roster will change enough by natural attrition over several years anyway, and it's up to the coach to get the best out of it. A coach needs to be judged on their ongoing performance in that regard, and if they've shown nothing by the half-way point of their contract, alternate arrangements should be made very quickly.
 

mickdo

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Losing 4 in a row is always concerning. Whether it deserves the 'headless chook time' that some supporters are promoting is something else altogether.
 

Springs

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The problem with 4 in a row to start is we haven't shown anything at all. If a team is in the top 8 mid season then loses 4 in a row they have shown at least that they can compete, they have won a few games to start with.

You can also say Kearney had bad halves last year but he said he had the utmost faith in those halves. So obviously he has poor judgement if they were shit halves ay Pou? And and by the way Mortimer and Robson this year > Roberts and Sandow.

The majority of times a team loses several games in a row then they have to show very soon that they can turn it around. In 2006 the Knights did. In 2006 Souths coach was let go. Usually the coach turns it around immediately or is let go.

The case also stands of the one game we won in the last twelve was the one against the wooden spooners.
 

Poupou Escobar

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The problem with 4 in a row to start is we haven't shown anything at all. If a team is in the top 8 mid season then loses 4 in a row they have shown at least that they can compete, they have won a few games to start with.

Mate we have good players, including the best in the world to come back into the team.

For the fifteen minutes he was on the field we looked very good. I expect more of the same when he's back.

You can also say Kearney had bad halves last year but he said he had the utmost faith in those halves. So obviously he has poor judgement if they were shit halves ay Pou?

Here's a tip - judge people on their actions; not their words.

Kearney said he had faith in his halves because they're the only ons he had. He showed how much faith he had in them when he signed Sandow and Roberts in the middle of the year.

And and by the way Mortimer and Robson this year > Roberts and Sandow.

Umm, no they're not. They're just playing in teams with more confidence at this stage of the year.

The majority of times a team loses several games in a row then they have to show very soon that they can turn it around. In 2006 the Knights did. In 2006 Souths coach was let go. Usually the coach turns it around immediately or is let go.

With Hayne back we're a different team. Don't be so quick to write him off.

The case also stands of the one game we won in the last twelve was the one against the wooden spooners.

This year's a new season. If Hayne plays on Saturday you could say our season starts then.

Or you could go on moping and writing us off.
 

Eels Dude

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You're blurring two seasons together though. Last year we had shit halves and this year we've had key injuries.

It's happened to Wayne Bennett, why not Kearney too?


Poupou, You were the one blurring two seasons together as soon as you mentioned 13 match losing streaks from 2005. I don't think you're correct on there being four, I recall two. Newcastle's start to the season in 2005 and Cronulla's between 09-10 which is blurring two seasons together, which you seem so against. By the way what are the other two?
 

Poupou Escobar

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Poupou, You were the one blurring two seasons together as soon as you mentioned 13 match losing streaks from 2005.

It's still a streak.

Just like ours is only four at the moment. Whatever happened last year is irrelevent with respect to streaks because we won our final game. That broke up the streak before from the streak after.

I don't think you're correct on there being four, I recall two. Newcastle's start to the season in 2005 and Cronulla's between 09-10 which is blurring two seasons together, which you seem so against. By the way what are the other two?

2006 Souths rounds 1-14
2008 Cowboys rounds 7-21
 

Eels Dude

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It's still a streak.

Just like ours is only four at the moment. Whatever happened last year is irrelevent with respect to streaks because we won our final game. That broke up the streak before from the streak after.



2006 Souths rounds 1-14
2008 Cowboys rounds 7-21

It's still a streak like we've been on out an out form streak for 18 games not just 4.

I'll credit you with the Cowboys, but Souths only lost 12 in a row. For the sake of everyone's humanity Poupou can you admit you were wrong once.
 
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