NRL clubs agree to new council

[East Coast Tiger]

And?

The comments you posted aren't even in response to that article for a start. They are in response to Nick Walshaw's article.

Secondly, anyone who says this "council" or whatever they want to call it isn't entirely about the NRL clubs banding togerther to form a lobby group they hope will influence the IC is a f**king dunce. All I said was that it is now up to the IC to show whether they will listen to them or not. And if not, it will then be up to the clubs to decide what they will do next.

You can call it a conspiracy from the DT all you like, but it doesn't alter the facts behind the story. You can't cry like a bitch about Slothfield's agenda and then pretend the NRL club bosses don't have an agenda of their own.

 

[El Diablo]

And?

The comments you posted aren't even in response to that article for a start. They are in response to Nick Walshaw's article.

who said they were, Phil :?

 

[East Coast Tiger]

And your response to the rest?

Not going to give one?

Hmmm...

 

[El Diablo]

rest of what phil?

 

[Perth Red]

Of course they will lobby to have their voice and put across their needs to the ARLC, so will the NSWRL, the QRL, the CRL, the RLIF, the WARL, the NZRL etc etc etc

They are all stakeholders in the game and will want to be heard. No problem with that at all. ARLC will listen to the stakeholders and plot a course of action for the benefit of the game as a whole. As it should do.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

rest of what phil?

The rest of what I said. Or does that not fit YOUR agenda.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Of course they will lobby to have their voice and put across their needs to the ARLC, so will the NSWRL, the QRL, the CRL, the RLIF, the WARL, the NZRL etc etc etc

They are all stakeholders in the game and will want to be heard. No problem with that at all. ARLC will listen to the stakeholders and plot a course of action for the benefit of the game as a whole. As it should do.

No no no. They are NOT a lobby group. They said so themselves...

 

[Goddo]

Deleted - said the same thing as Perth Red re lobby groups.

 

[El Diablo]

The rest of what I said. Or does that not fit YOUR agenda.

the article comments you seem to think are relevant :?

 

[Perth Red]

No no no. They are NOT a lobby group. They said so themselves...

Lobby Group
Stakeholder Consultation Group
Communication Network meeting
Strategic ideas Discussion group
etc etc

All basically mean and do the same thing. It's not a bad thing that the governing body and key stake holders are communicating and I applaud the ARLC for taking the initiative in making it happen. Slothfield is trying to create bad blood for nefarious reasons, he is a merkin that wants to damage the game plain and simple.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

the article comments you seem to think are relevant :?

Keep ignoring what i said. You just look like the same kind of deceptive crook you're whinging about.

 

[Perth Red]

Disagree I think not only is it a good thing but it a must. The last thing you want is no communication between the governing body and its biggest most powerful stakeholders. This way the clubs know they have a forum to air their concerns or ideas, to feel they are involved in the strategic development of the game and hopefully will not feel the need to be whinging to the media or behaving underhandly to get their way.

Of course it will be up to the ARLC to manage them well, as it is for the AFL commision to manage its clubs well, time will tell if we have the right commisioners to do that but all signs are good that we have.

 

[applesauce]

NRL Council a bid by clubs to regain control of rugby league

TRAVELLING faster than bad news, Nick Politis throws a mock right hand towards The Daily Telegraph photographer, attempting to block his picture while laughing: "I'm not important mate ... don't worry about me." Yeah, right.

While the Godfather may have been playing himself down yesterday, the ongoing power struggle that is rugby league was considerably amped up when Club Land's heaviest hitters filed, one after another, through the sliding, glass doors of St George Leagues to create a bold, new entity - the NRL Council.

Officially, this new consortium of all 16 NRL clubs has formed to ensure effective communication with the Independent Commission on issues like refereeing standards and the looming $1 billion TV deal.

But unofficially? Think a meeting of the Galactic Empire in Star Wars.

And for proof, consider that after two hours of talk, some of league's biggest names - men like Politis, Phil Gould, even Paul 'The Chief' Harragon - re-emerged through those same doors refusing to speak. Even Souths CEO Shane Richardson was consumed by the cone of silence.

Which is why many in League Land see this new NRL Council as a united push to reclaim a large chunk of control from the game's new governing body.

There is no doubting the group's clout when men like Gould and Bulldogs CEO Todd Greenberg choose to attend the meeting themselves, rather than send underlings to take notes.

Cronulla chairman Damian Irvine was also in attendance despite battling illness while senior Souths duo, Richardson and chairman Nick Pappas, made it 25 minutes late after scooting across Sydney from an earlier engagement.

But they left the talk to group representative and Wests Tigers chairman Dave Trodden, who rejected claims the council was "a lobby group" or that its members were seeking to steal authority from the new commission.

"This council has nothing to do with (power). It's about all 16 clubs achieving a high level of strategic interaction with the commission and its commissioners.

"Our whole aim is to form a concept of engagement between the clubs and the NRL Commission. Today was about introducing that concept to the clubs and trying to work out topics we can engage the commission about."

The first showdown is set for August 27, with the chairman or CEO from every NRL club to talk through their issues with the commissioners.

Asked what topics had been added to those already revealed in these pages, Trodden continued: "At this stage I'd prefer to discuss those with the commission, not anyone outside it". And so we wait.

The commission already finds itself under attack for a perceived lack of progress on refereeing standards and finding a replacement for departed CEO David Gallop.

It's a situation that ensures league's version of the Galactic Empire won't be so quiet on Monday week.

This is why Slothfield is pissed. He has been shut out like the ugly girl at the prom.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Disagree I think not only is it a good thing but it a must. The last thing you want is no communication between the governing body and its biggest most powerful stakeholders. This way the clubs know they have a forum to air their concerns or ideas, to feel they are involved in the strategic development of the game and hopefully will not feel the need to be whinging to the media or behaving underhandly to get their way.

Of course it will be up to the ARLC to manage them well, as it is for the AFL commision to manage its clubs well, time will tell if we have the right commisioners to do that but all signs are good that we have.

Firstly, you don't need some kind of collective body for there to be communication betwene the IC and the 16 clubs.

Secondly, I have never said anything about whether the clubs have a say or not. They will have a say whether anyone wants to hear it or not. The key is whether the IC listens, and if not, what the clubs do about it.

 

[Perth Red]

No but it makes it a lot easier to get them all in a room and make sure they are all hearing the same thing in the same way at the same time.

I am sure the IC will listen to it all, they will act on some things and not on others depending on if it fits the strategic goals. If clubs don't like it then they can either vote out commisioners when the time is right, they can break away and form a SuperLEague with Rothfield as CEO and NEws pulling the strings or they can whinge to the press and try and undermine the ARLC. Hopefully they will do none of the above, act professionally and understand that the success of the strategic goals of the ARLC will lead to much better outcomes for themselves.

My feeling is the clubs got a bloody enough nose 1997-2012 to realise that not having a unified game run by an independent body will cost them dearly.

 

[Bretto]

Slothfield hates it when people won't talk to him. He's written plenty of articles slandering people and players because they wouldn't talk to him.

The way I see it is:

The NRL has a new Independent Commission who will make decisions for the good of the game.

All the clubs want to have a say on a certain matters, so they form a group to correlate ideas and points, then have those ideas conveyed to the Independent Commission.

Independent Commission takes everything on board, then makes their own decision.

Is that about right?

 

[El Diablo]

Keep ignoring what i said. You just look like the same kind of deceptive crook you're whinging about.

why can't you explain what you're talking about Phil?

 

[siv]

Love how News Ltd is being shut out of the running of the game

Making up stories without their ability to tap emails / phone calls etc

 

[El Diablo]

they'll have to start hacking phones to get stories

 

[East Coast Tiger]

why can't you explain what you're talking about Phil?

Keep ignoring what i said. You just look like the same kind of deceptive crook you're whinging about.