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  1. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    Yeah like it wasnt shortened for Wests Tigers. A fact Im certain you know, but decided to be a pendant about. and stooping real low with the personal attacks dude. But hey, keep being you buddy.
  2. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    ok thats fair enough. the 102.6m in stadium development funding we'll exclude for you. Takes AFL revenue from 1.063 billion down to 960.9 million.....and still well ahead of the NRls 701m.
  3. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    which again is not a revenue matter, but an expense one. Your other reasons are just as daft.
  4. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    Im not even sure you know what the revenue comparison is. Its HQ v HQ - When VLANDYS mentions more than 701m - hes not talking cumulative revenues across the league. Sure and lets add the cumulative revenues for the AFL clubs while we're at it, but again thats not what Vlandys was talking...
  5. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    I generally refer to league folk, afl folk, and football folk, depending on the subject matter. But hey you take it however you want. Ticketing - ie. the gate - is club revenue, not league revenue, until finals. Much is taken by membership and associated reserve seating - both of which are...
  6. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    well this has gone about as expected lol cbf'd arguing with you all tonight
  7. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    You havent got aything in this discussion. Did at any stage anyone f**king say that? No. He said the data HE had to hand didnt match with Aldo. And I said its impossible for anyone else to verify, because no one has all the data needed to do so, or is releasing or publishing anything else. It...
  8. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    He used the data provided to him by broadcasters and oztam and came to a different conclusion. Thats not "no proof". Its a difference of interpretation of data. The AFL almost never comments on things like this. Generally we dont hear about their season totals until their annual report in...
  9. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    He didnt really. He said that his analysis of the data showed that it might be an exaggeration.
  10. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    Disagreeing with head office doesnt make you a flog. It means his analysis dosnt quite line up with the official line. All of the information in his article came from official sources. He did not get data from me at all for this article. Numbers came from OZtam, Nine, Seven and Abdo - as...
  11. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    Look in an ideal world everyone would get credit - and some are better than others at it. In the case of the first AFR article earlier in the week, they asked if I wanted it, and I said no. The Telegraph had a thing for just outright stealing graphs Id made - specifically one that Rothfield used...
  12. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    And this was something we did have a lengthy chat about, and its been a thing for years - Sevens official position and the actual ratings position are two different things - and I wonder if that matters when they bid for rights - In the end journos kind of have to go with what they get from...
  13. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    Its not the best source of anything. For somethings its the most convenient source when others drag their feet or refuse to answer ina tiimely fashion. And sometimes, its just to get clarity on the data they have.
  14. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    I could answer this, but you can always just write to oztam or the broadcasters and find out. Its quite at odds with the VOZ data - Seven told the AFR they had 77 broadcasts - VOZ reports show 103 matches matches reported at 587,000 per game in them (515,000 exc finals). Now what VOZ isnt...
  15. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    The article uses information from an article previously published in the AFR that did use data tables compiled by me from VOZ - and I didnt require credit for, as its not why I do this. In both articles, they got data from Seven and Nine directly, but nothing from Foxtel. With me its a case of...
  16. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    Twitter account is followed by a lot of journos, club and game officials. And Im an easily approachable dude. Or something.
  17. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    No I have this from the journo who wrote the article in the AFR.
  18. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    Thinktv is a fairly unbiased source. Also Fun fact, you know what period reported the biggest ad spend in the last 6 years? 2022 - the same year the AFL signed its 4.5b deal. https://thinktv.com.au/news/total-tv-advertising-market-records-4-3-billion-for-12-months-to-june-2022/ That report is...
  19. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    https://www.foxtelmedia.com.au/news/foxtel-media-announces-line-up-of-new-and-returning-big-brand-sponsors-for-the-2024-afl-season https://foxtelgroup.com.au/newsroom/foxtel-media-announces-powerhouse-line-up-of-new-and-returning-sponsors-for-the-2024-nrl-season Actually it hasnt. Original...
  20. The_Wookie

    2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

    Maybe its because the AFL did a good deal, and maybe its because the ad market has softened. https://www.adnews.com.au/news/seven-dragged-down-by-soft-advertising-market https://www.adnews.com.au/news/smi-advertising-spend-softens-again...

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