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    Depression continues to dog NRL players

    No answers, I see. The bottom line is that there is incredibly limited evidence supporting the theory of chemical imbalance, other than in the most serious cases of depression. And even in those cases, the effectiveness of SSRIs is limited. It is promoted as fact by Big Pharma, and...
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    Depression continues to dog NRL players

    The article provides a concise summary of the research. Just because that research disagrees with your beliefs does not make the article biased. It said that shows a degree of effectiveness for the severest category of depression. That does not equate to being effective for all severe...
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    Depression continues to dog NRL players

    I don't have to, because it's been looked into before. e.g.: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/3085/do-antidepressants-only-work-because-of-the-placebo-effect Some studies show zero effect, or a statistically insignificant one. Some show an effect for those with the most severe cases...
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    Depression continues to dog NRL players

    I have never said that people who are diagnosed with depression do not have a problem. I have also never said that those problems should not be taken seriously. I have just said that I am immensely skeptical about the definition of 'depression' as an illness, the manner at which diagnoses are...
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    Depression continues to dog NRL players

    Which is logic that can be applied to any fictitious illness.
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    Depression continues to dog NRL players

    Yeah, like I said I am not trying to say that chemical imbalances don't exist at all and that the pills are never useful. And I don't know much about ADHD or PTSD so I can't comment on those things. I just have a massive problem with the way the 'illness' is defined and diagnosed. A recent...
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    Depression continues to dog NRL players

    Isn't that the propaganda film made by the Church of Scientology? I'm not advocating quackery. There is a good body of evidence to support the idea that chemical imbalances create mental conditions that manifest themselves in different ways, including what we would call very severe depression...
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    Depression continues to dog NRL players

    How many people do you know who've been diagnosed with depression and not prescribed medication? Antidepressant use has doubled in Australia in the last 10 years. We are closely following the sort of exponential growth rates that the US has previously experienced. Currently over 10% of the...
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    Depression continues to dog NRL players

    What have I said that is incorrect? Double blind trials have shown that antidepressants do not have a statistical advantage over placebos for the vast majority of 'depression' sufferers. It only has anything that approaches measurable efficacy for the those diagnosed with very, very serious...
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    Depression continues to dog NRL players

    Yeah, because that's what I said. :roll: The psychiatrists that write the DSM lick their lips and pathologise everything. 'Major depressive disorder', as it appears in the DSM, is basically a scam used to promote antidepressants since the 60s on the basis of very little evidence empirical...
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    Depression continues to dog NRL players

    Everything 'leads to depression' these days. Inevitable result of our society's pathologisation of life. It wouldn't hurt players to have some other area of life where they can obtain a sense of achievement and self-worth.
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    Depression continues to dog NRL players

    Excellent argument. You should be a psychiatrist.
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    Depression continues to dog NRL players

    Depends what you mean by 'real'. Depression = most overdiagnosed 'illness' in society.
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    Graham Murray dies aged 58

    I don't think Steelers fans would consider the loss of their club's identity as petty. Ill-feeling from the Super League War runs deep.
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    Graham Murray dies aged 58

    Oh right, so in a thread where people are talking about someone's legacy and career you are only allowed to mention the good things. :roll: Even the greatest people make mistakes.
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    Graham Murray dies aged 58

    Not unsubstantiated at all. He was sacked for it.
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    Graham Murray dies aged 58

    Wow, some massive overreactions here. Like undertaker says, his actions in the Super League war pissed a lot of ARL fans off. Newcastle fans loathed him for running a club that tried to drive out their beloved Knights. Steelers fans loathed him for repaying five years of loyalty by stealing...
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    Graham Murray dies aged 58

    He is still hated by many in the Illawarra thanks to his actions as a quisling in the Super League War, secretly stealing players. I doubt he will be much mourned by Steelers fans, who still attribute a portion of the blame to him for helping kill their club at the top level. Still, it is sad...
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    Tinkler on Four Corners

    Tinkler is a gambler who thought he could be a businessman. Like most good gamblers he has an eye for value bets and backs himself. Unfortunately, like most gamblers, he's utterly clueless about risk. He also has NFI about the operational side of business. An apprentice sparky can't run a...
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    Will we be implicated in this doping scandal?

    lol, I'm not giving out that information on a public forum to someone I don't know. Of course, I don't expect people to believe me because any idiot can come on the forum and cite anonymous sources. I am just saying - if you know people associated with player ops at the Knights over the last...

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