18th club, whose next?

[greenBV4]

I agree. I’d also say the Storm need to meet some specific attendance and ratings metrics for it to even be considered.

biggest issue for a second Melbourne team at the get go would be the point of difference, no-one really dislikes the Storm down here, and there's no 2nd division to promote from to give a broncos and dolphins scenario

The club would have to be heavily supported by the NRL in the early years until new generations who start fresh with a choice of the 2 clubs grow into a supporter age

 

[docbrown]

biggest issue for a second Melbourne team at the get go would be the point of difference, no-one really dislikes the Storm down here, and there's no 2nd division to promote from to give a broncos and dolphins scenario

The club would have to be heavily supported by the NRL in the early years until new generations who start fresh with a choice of the 2 clubs grow into a supporter age

Yeah I think you’re right. That‘s why I’d argue one of the metrics would be a high Storm attendance average - we’re talking at least 25k+ and a membership waitlist. Basically, when you’re turning people away, that’s when they need a second option.

 

[Wb1234]

He's also trolling old mate Perth Pelican

Labor feds control every state and territory except tassie. Hmmm I wonder why they are chipping in there? Chances of them contributing elsewhere seem slim.

WA govt is sitting on billions of $’s budget surpluses, it can afford to do what it chooses without feds support.

what nrl should do is announce it will be Perth if they meet X, y and z. Then the pressure goes onto the govt to meet the demands. Just like afl did in tassie,

That’s not a bad point

 

[Perth Red]

Point is he got a 17th team in place, and it so far has been a masterstroke.You cannot handle the fact.
He does run his mouth , yet he gets things done like the Everest in horse racing. He got involved in some rule changes, which seem to be working.
He organised first the bubbles in Brisbane during COVID, so he has had to put up with sh*t no other NRL CEO has had to put up with.
And he has arranged an income producing asset in Brisbane for the NRL.
And this year crowds and rating are up, the football in the main has been better and less crap from the bunker.
The Las Vegas thing is one out of left field ,if it makes decent loot you'd still whine.
Yep he's Greek and you're a Pom ,that's Australia.He has his flaws ,haven't had a rugby league CEO who hasn't.

He’s cost the game hundreds of millions of $’s tv revenue. anything else Pails into insignificance against that fact.

 

[Perth Red]

biggest issue for a second Melbourne team at the get go would be the point of difference, no-one really dislikes the Storm down here, and there's no 2nd division to promote from to give a broncos and dolphins scenario

The club would have to be heavily supported by the NRL in the early years until new generations who start fresh with a choice of the 2 clubs grow into a supporter age

I don’t know what the nrls fascination is with having two or more small teams instead of one big one!

 

[The Great Dane]

1 of 2 things are happening here and both are very realistic.

News corp spinning shit again.

V'landys is trolling news corp.

There's another option; News genuinely believes that a second club in Melbourne is a good idea and are tentatively pushing for it.

These are the same people that thought that Western United and Macarthur Bulls would be great for the A-league because it'd create more derbies...

 

[The Great Dane]

Like I said the other day, the question with Melbourne is in 20 years is a city of 8 million still going to be a one team town? Or does a second side risk being another GWS? That’s what they’ll be discussing.

The NRL should be planning now for a second Melbourne team in the future, but it isn't ready for one yet and won't be in ten years time either.

Frankly though, it’s pretty obvious that they’re just driving up talk about expansion for free publicity. The other aspect is that this literally tells every potential bidding location to bring something big to the table. No one is guaranteed anything.

It does seem that way. We'll know for sure if they put the 18th license out to open tender.

 

[The Great Dane]

biggest issue for a second Melbourne team at the get go would be the point of difference, no-one really dislikes the Storm down here, and there's no 2nd division to promote from to give a broncos and dolphins scenario

The club would have to be heavily supported by the NRL in the early years until new generations who start fresh with a choice of the 2 clubs grow into a supporter age

There're dozens of ways to create a point of difference, you've just got to find the one that works.

Geography might be a good one in Melbourne's case.

You could exploit the AFL's centralised stadia strategy to create a more localised product without a direct local competitor by picking a significant portion of the city like the Southeast, building a stadium there, and basing the team full time out of there.

 

[greenBV4]

There're dozens of ways to create a point of difference, you've just got to find the one that works.

Geography might be a good one in Melbourne's case.

You could exploit the AFL's centralised stadia strategy to create a more localised product without a direct local competitor by picking a significant portion of the city like the Southeast, building a stadium there, and basing the team full time out of there.

Geography for sure (in a decade or so's time), I'd go with west as it's the biggest growth corridor and storm spend a lot less time and focus that side of the west gate, build a stadium with Western United

However imo it still wouldn't convert that many storm fans day one, unlike Sydney Melbourne's cbd is easily accessible from basically every suburb hence why the centralised stadiums work, all train lines run the the cbd like a spiders web and (unless the Suburban rail loop is actually built) it would actually be easier for a lot of people to get to aami than a new stadium a couple suburbs across, but as I said it would have to be a long term goal to attract kids as new fans

As far as what you said about being a more localised club though, Melbourne 2 would actually be one of the better locations for the bears actually, link up with the Werribee bears and get a stadium built there with Western United, derbies at aami, a game or 2 in Geelong (none at North sydney being the caveat)

 

[greenBV4]

For anyone who didn't know here's the location of Melbourne's nrlvic clubs, a quite clear east west divide

Obviously you've got fans from all over the city but theses are the areas your most likely to get kids involved at a young age

 

[Pneuma]

Well the AFL/Sheedy did it ,when they announced GWS would have a decent impact in Sydney's West ,and Polynesian kids would take up the game after Falou became a high profile inexperienced fumbler.
When the AFL announced all the people that played the game in N.Z
When John ONeill stated Rugby union would become the no 1 code in NSW and QLd and no 2 in the AFL states after the 2003 RWC in Oz.
Think quite a few people got decent laughs with those comments.

Haven’t noticed the turd in Perth have a shot at his boyfriend and hero Gill for stating the fumblers are about to take over Qld despite every metric showing league is going gangbusters there. Bloody hypocrite.

 

[Colk]

Haven’t noticed the turd in Perth have a shot at his boyfriend and hero Gill for stating the fumblers are about to take over Qld despite every metric showing league is going gangbusters there. Bloody hypocrite.

That was the dumbest statement of all

 

[Wb1234]

‘Let’s not have byes’: Why AFL has ‘got to get to 20’ teams — and what city already has a backer

‘Let’s not have byes’: Why AFL has ‘got to get to 20’ teams — and what city already has a backer

www.foxsports.com.au

Bad news for a Perth nrl bid

 

[Perth Red]

‘Let’s not have byes’: Why AFL has ‘got to get to 20’ teams — and what city already has a backer

‘Let’s not have byes’: Why AFL has ‘got to get to 20’ teams — and what city already has a backer

www.foxsports.com.au

Bad news for a Perth nrl bid

talking afl again, go the swannies

 

[jim_57]

biggest issue for a second Melbourne team at the get go would be the point of difference, no-one really dislikes the Storm down here, and there's no 2nd division to promote from to give a broncos and dolphins scenario

The club would have to be heavily supported by the NRL in the early years until new generations who start fresh with a choice of the 2 clubs grow into a supporter age

In my 7 years in Melbourne so far the only person I’ve ever met who outright hated the Storm said he hated them “because they play in purple”.

So there you have it, team name sells itself. ‘Melbourne Tough Guys’.

 

[Bukowski]

‘Let’s not have byes’: Why AFL has ‘got to get to 20’ teams — and what city already has a backer

‘Let’s not have byes’: Why AFL has ‘got to get to 20’ teams — and what city already has a backer

www.foxsports.com.au

Bad news for a Perth nrl bid

More AFL shit. Take it somewhere else.

 

[Steel Saints]

‘Let’s not have byes’: Why AFL has ‘got to get to 20’ teams — and what city already has a backer

‘Let’s not have byes’: Why AFL has ‘got to get to 20’ teams — and what city already has a backer

www.foxsports.com.au

Bad news for a Perth nrl bid

Not really. There isn't a professional rugby league side in Perth. If the 18th team is based there, the NRL will offer a new form of entertainment in which Perth doesn't have at the moment.

This is why it's difficult for GWS because the Swans are established. And for the same reason, it will also be tough for a second nrl team in Melbourne. NRL needs to do the hard yards before it becomes a consideration for a second side.

 

[taipan]

He’s cost the game hundreds of millions of $’s tv revenue. anything else Pails into insignificance against that fact.

That's your opinion and yes others .Others disagree, in fact no one knows the additional revenue for the NRLW now on FTA ,that wasn't included in the original deal.
And in typical fashion you continue to use that argument about Tv deals, when there is no comparing apples with apples 16 teams to 18 teams, with the actual contract years involved in the deals or the addition of the 17th and 18 team, the additional value for ads in 4 qtrs not 1/2, the number of people involved in each code's football club from admin to players.And when the deals were signed, during Covid or when it was just about worn off.
Like all the armchair experts we (yes we) are guessing.Except the difference is I'm not whining.

 

[taipan]

Haven’t noticed the turd in Perth have a shot at his boyfriend and hero Gill for stating the fumblers are about to take over Qld despite every metric showing league is going gangbusters there. Bloody hypocrite.

Yep.Never read any criticism of Polo Pete by the Sandgroper.
But geez V'Landys gets a daily dose of vitriol.

 

[Wb1234]

That's your opinion and yes others .Others disagree, in fact no one knows the additional revenue for the NRLW now on FTA ,that wasn't included in the original deal.
And in typical fashion you continue to use that argument about Tv deals, when there is no comparing apples with apples 16 teams to 18 teams, with the actual contract years involved in the deals or the addition of the 17th and 18 team, the additional value for ads in 4 qtrs not 1/2, the number of people involved in each code's football club from admin to players.And when the deals were signed, during Covid or when it was just about worn off.
Like all the armchair experts we (yes we) are guessing.Except the difference is I'm not whining.

Perths best chance at an nrl team in close to 30 years … a real chance … and he looks for any excuse to belittle the guy whose going to deliver it