18th club, whose next?

[Pippen94]

And that will be the death of any non-NRL aligned footy club, which will ultimately be a disaster for the game.

The branding part is a total furphy and irrelevant to this discussion.

Lol - its the main part. Otherwise NRL clubs would buy & keep newtown club etc

 

[Perth Red]

Yeh they are so desperate that’s why Perth approached Newtown to make their bid stronger

Id be surprised, and disaapointed, if the WA bid isnt apporaching all potential second tier feeder club options for a conversation. What we are discussing is why clubs like Newtown and Bears would be keen, nay see they have to find a way to survive, if the NRl reverts back to a proper reserve grade set up.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

And that will be the death of any non-NRL aligned footy club, which will ultimately be a disaster for the game.

The point is that they shouldn't be allowed to make things that way because of the broader impact it'll have on the sport.

Gee there`s a lot of doomsday merchants on these pages. Do you honestly believe that the ARLC are going to do something that will lead to a catastrophic reduction in the player numbers in a sport which probably draws 90% of its` participants from two states. I think they might have thought this idea through a little more than that if this was likely to occur.

 

[Wb1234]

Id be surprised, and disaapointed, if the WA bid isnt apporaching all potential second tier feeder club options for a conversation. What we are discussing is why clubs like Newtown and Bears would be keen, nay see they have to find a way to survive, if the NRl reverts back to a proper reserve grade set up.

No what we are discussing is why Perth need a failed nswrl team

obviously admitting the issue of juniors is something they are weak in as people have told you for months and you’ve ignored

even worse thinking Newtown would be a solution to this

 

[Perth Red]

No what we are discussing is why Perth need a failed nswrl team

obviously admitting the issue of juniors is something they are weak in as people have told you for months and you’ve ignored

even worse thinking Newtown would be a solution to this

They need a feeder club, or two, on the east coast. Why? Largely because of the abject failure of the ARL/ARLC that saw 10k registered players in the 90's shrink to less than 1000 by 2000 and then so little investment in growing the game that we are still only back to around 4000 despite having double the population of the 90's. Sadly we are reaping what we sow as a game.

So for now we need to find a club or two in the only two states where RL is any size to feed the club with players. Shame but you can thank our games great leadership in the 90's and since for that.

I agree Newtown is a very strange club to be discussing anything with and may just be a much wider fishing exercise with many clubs for all we know, that the Sydney media loves to jump on along with the Bears are coming back stories they love to promote. The actual comment's from the Newtown rep didnt make it sound like it was anything more than an initial conversation at this point in time.

Of course Vlandys could be a total dck and have told the WA bid they have to adopt a sydney brand to get in, but even I find it hard to believe he is that myopic.

 

[Pippen94]

They need a feeder club, or two, on the east coast. Why? Largely because of the abject failure of the ARL/ARLC that saw 10k registered players in the 90's shrink to less than 1000 by 2000 and then so little investment in growing the game that we are still only back to around 4000 despite having double the population of the 90's. Sadly we are reaping what we sow as a game.

So for now we need to find a club or two in the only two states where RL is any size to feed the club with players. Shame but you can thank our games great leadership in the 90's and since for that.

I agree Newtown is a very strange club to be discussing anything with and may just be a much wider fishing exercise with many clubs for all we know, that the Sydney media loves to jump on along with the Bears are coming back stories they love to promote. The actual comment's from the Newtown rep didnt make it sound like it was anything more than an initial conversation at this point in time.

Of course Vlandys could be a total dck and have told the WA bid they have to adopt a sydney brand to get in, but even I find it hard to believe he is that myopic.

..its NRL fault Perth failed not the lack of fans over there

 

[Pneuma]

As opposed to the old days of Tempe, St Peters, Lewisham etc making up a competition in each grade, rather than one team. But you are correct then, I was incorrect to say no juniors.
From dim memory, the junior clubs were redirected generally to Souths and St George when Newtown left the main stage. Perhaps a club or two may have gone to Canterbury or Balmain.

Bugger all juniors might be a good compromise. Kill the club and you kill its juniors. Lesson learnt you’d hope.

 

[Perth Red]

..its NRL fault Perth failed not the lack of fans over there

good trolling

 

[Pippen94]

good trolling

Thanks. Team failed so u blamed NRL who should've just been pouring money into it for 30 years

 

[Perth Red]

Thanks. Team failed so u blamed NRL who should've just been pouring money into it for 30 years

lala cuckoo cuckoo

 

[Pippen94]

lala cuckoo cuckoo

Perth failed because it didn't create enough fans over there to be sustainable. That doesn't rule out Perth forever, but stop blaming other ppl.

 

[Wb1234]

They need a feeder club, or two, on the east coast. Why? Largely because of the abject failure of the ARL/ARLC that saw 10k registered players in the 90's shrink to less than 1000 by 2000 and then so little investment in growing the game that we are still only back to around 4000 despite having double the population of the 90's. Sadly we are reaping what we sow as a game.

So for now we need to find a club or two in the only two states where RL is any size to feed the club with players. Shame but you can thank our games great leadership in the 90's and since for that.

I agree Newtown is a very strange club to be discussing anything with and may just be a much wider fishing exercise with many clubs for all we know, that the Sydney media loves to jump on along with the Bears are coming back stories they love to promote. The actual comment's from the Newtown rep didnt make it sound like it was anything more than an initial conversation at this point in time.

Of course Vlandys could be a total dck and have told the WA bid they have to adopt a sydney brand to get in, but even I find it hard to believe he is that myopic.

So no juniors in wa huh ?

need juniors from Sydney

doesn’t sound like a strong case for a team

even worse spending one million a year keeping Newtown going

madness

Playing numbers shrank because Perth stood behind super league and news ltd killed them off seeing no future for them

can’t blame the arl for the bad choices Perth made

 

[Canard]

Gee there`s a lot of doomsday merchants on these pages. Do you honestly believe that the ARLC are going to do something that will lead to a catastrophic reduction in the player numbers in a sport which probably draws 90% of its` participants from two states. I think they might have thought this idea through a little more than that if this was likely to occur.

The ARLC is in practice the governing body for the sport, but in reality only looks after the NRL clubs only.

For example, I don't believe any senior mens competition outside of the NRL system, receives any funding whatsoever from the ARLC.

And I've not seen them make any major improvements in junior development, with there only action to date, cutting the U/21s comp for NRL clubs and reverting it back to a non-NRL club state based comp. Which the only reason I can see was to cut costs for NRL clubs.

 

[Pippen94]

The ARLC is in practice the governing body for the sport, but in reality only looks after the NRL clubs only.

For example, I don't believe any senior mens competition outside of the NRL system, receives any funding whatsoever from the ARLC.

And I've not seen them make any major improvements in junior development, with there only action to date, cutting the U/21s comp for NRL clubs and reverting it back to a non-NRL club state based comp. Which the only reason I can see was to cut costs for NRL clubs.

Dummy, having newtown jets host ur players is cheaper than create ur own NSW cups.

 

[Perth Red]

So no juniors in wa huh ?

need juniors from Sydney

doesn’t sound like a strong case for a team

even worse spending one million a year keeping Newtown going

madness

Playing numbers shrank because Perth stood behind super league and news ltd killed them off seeing no future for them

can’t blame the arl for the bad choices Perth made

Here we go, it’s the dumb and dumber show again.

yes we have jnrs
no we don’t have enough and we don’t have the quality pathways established to sustain a club from day one
yes partnering with a current second tier club or two will be necessary
yes any new club is going to sign from the existing player pool for first few seasons, see dolphins
Yes ARL/arlc have negelcted their mandate to grow rugby league across australia
yes going from 10k WA players to under 1k was a disaster for the game and the lack of effort to reverse it back is shameful by the ARL/arlc.
yes rl history is littered with self interest and poor decisions. The reds is but one of many

 

[Perth Red]

Perth failed because it didn't create enough fans over there to be sustainable. That doesn't rule out Perth forever, but stop blaming other ppl.

Nonsense, it’s like you have no idea what happened at end of ‘97. here’s a clue, it had nothing to do with how many fans the western reds had.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

The ARLC is in practice the governing body for the sport, but in reality only looks after the NRL clubs only.

For example, I don't believe any senior mens competition outside of the NRL system, receives any funding whatsoever from the ARLC.

And I've not seen them make any major improvements in junior development, with there only action to date, cutting the U/21s comp for NRL clubs and reverting it back to a non-NRL club state based comp. Which the only reason I can see was to cut costs for NRL clubs.

No they would receive their funding from the NSWRL and QRL who in turn receive funding from the NRL.

 

[Pippen94]

Nonsense, it’s like you have no idea what happened at end of ‘97. here’s a clue, it had nothing to do with how many fans the western reds had.

How many fans did they have in end??

 

[The Penguin #6.]

Can`t open this article but appears the Fed`s are getting in on the act. Great to see someone close to the P.M. throwing his weight behind it.

‘One more team to beat’: Gorman pushes for Perth NRL side

A federal Labor MP has backed the campaign for a Perth-based NRL team — and he’s using a left-field argument to get Sydneysiders on side.

thewest.com.au

"A federal Labor MP has backed the campaign for a Perth-based NRL team — and he’s using a left-field argument to get Sydneysiders on side.

Assistant Minister to the Prime Minister Patrick Gorman will use a speech to Sydney business leaders on Tuesday to throw his weight behind Premier Roger Cook’s fresh push to bring a team to WA."

Looking more and more promising. Somebody we know is going to get a boner with all this good news.

 

[Perth Red]

How many fans did they have in end??

In 1997?
more than penrith, Illawarra, brisbane2, souths St George and wests.
ironically same as dolphins drew at the weekend lol
What’s your point?