18th club, whose next?

[Pippen94]

It's really hard to see Brisbane 3 being the next team, precisely because all the opposition it'd have from the Broncos, News Ltd, Dolphins & Titans.

Everyone pretending news don't own foxtel too & would benefit from Brisbane 3

 

[jim_57]

Manila Bears are front runners.

 

[Canard]

News own foxtel too!!

Brisbane is only bid with stable & known backers. Tigers been around almost as long as NRL. Reds died when owners lost interest.

Pokies are legal in 2023, but they are by no means guaranteed to be in the next decade.

At the very least they may be heavily regulated in some form.

Without pokies, Easts are a park footy outfit.

 

[Wb1234]

Png 50 percent
Perth 35 percent
Nz2 15 percent

nz are the sleepers warriors are on fire. If they make the gf who knows

 

[flippikat]

Pokies are legal in 2023, but they are by no means guaranteed to be in the next decade.

At the very least they may be heavily regulated in some form.

Without pokies, Easts are a park footy outfit.

What's the current state of play regarding changes to Pokies regulation in Australia?

Is there a real prospect of tightening regulations & lowering numbers anytime soon?

 

[Perth Red]

So what r u crowing about saying next team is Perth & when there's no bid?!

There’s no bids anywhere as there is no invite to bid yet.

We have Interested bidders at this point. PNG, Easts and WA. And the go anywhere Bears.
Nrl may well decide the city and invite only bids from that city like they did club17.
in terms of those cities perth and brisbane would be the two most likely choices, but like I said brisbane may be off the table for now until dolphins are settled in.

 

[flippikat]

There’s no bids anywhere as there is no invite to bid yet.

We have Interested bidders at this point. PNG, Easts and WA. And the go anywhere Bears.
Nrl may well decide the city and invite only bids from that city like they did club17.
in terms of those cities perth and brisbane would be the two most likely choices, but like I said brisbane may be off the table for now until dolphins are settled in.

That's the real kicker there - how the NRL call for bids.

Do they call for all & any bids, regardless of location?

Do they pick a city or area & ask for bids from THERE - as they did last time?

Do they call for bids from anywhere EXCEPT a particular location or region?

 

[Wb1234]

What's the current state of play regarding changes to Pokies regulation in Australia?

Is there a real prospect of tightening regulations & lowering numbers anytime soon?

New laws coming in won’t have much impact

what will is as current users die off the new generation doesn’t use pokies as much

 

[jim_57]

That's the real kicker there - how the NRL call for bids.

Do they call for all & any bids, regardless of location?

Do they pick a city or area & ask for bids from THERE - as they did last time?

Do they call for bids from anywhere EXCEPT a particular location or region?

Open slather would be good, then we have an idea of what is on the table if/when they go for 19 & 20. In saying that if the NRL has decided on an area behind closed doors they should probably limit bids to that area to save wasting everyone else’s time & money.

 

[Pippen94]

Pokies are legal in 2023, but they are by no means guaranteed to be in the next decade.

At the very least they may be heavily regulated in some form.

Without pokies, Easts are a park footy outfit.

That's how NRL clubs started but they diversified their wealth

 

[Pippen94]

That's the real kicker there - how the NRL call for bids.

Do they call for all & any bids, regardless of location?

Do they pick a city or area & ask for bids from THERE - as they did last time?

Do they call for bids from anywhere EXCEPT a particular location or region?

They have already scoped potential bids. With Brisbane they knew that's where the best ones were from

 

[Canard]

That's how NRL clubs started but they diversified their wealth

The Easts Tigers haven't though

 

[Canard]

Everyone pretending news don't own foxtel too & would benefit from Brisbane 3

What there is suddenly going to be a whole lot of new subscribers in Brisbane who don't have Foxtel now, but will sign up for Brisbane 3.

 

[Pippen94]

What there is suddenly going to be a whole lot of new subscribers in Brisbane who don't have Foxtel now, but will sign up for Brisbane 3.

Brisbane found an extra 40k members this year across both teams.
Pay tv gets money from advertisers too.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The Easts Tigers haven't though

They've invested their money on infrastructure that makes them NRL ready. Langlands Park allows them to generate some revenue from signage. If they get an NRL licence they will probably generate more money from sponsorship and corporate hospitality than every club bar the Broncos due to their centralised location in an under served rugby league city.

 

[Canard]

Brisbane found an extra 40k members this year across both teams.
Pay tv gets money from advertisers too.

That's got absolutely nothing to do with Foxtel subscriptions.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Brisbane 3 won't generate more pay TV subscriptions in Brisbane.

 

[flippikat]

Open slather would be good, then we have an idea of what is on the table if/when they go for 19 & 20. In saying that if the NRL has decided on an area behind closed doors they should probably limit bids to that area to save wasting everyone else’s time & money.

Yeah, I suspect that the call will likely either be "open slather" OR "Everywhere except for SE-Queensland".

Open slather sounds good, but the chances are that some of the losing bids from the "Brisbane 2" contest will just re-emerge.

I suppose it means the NRL gets a refreshed look at the Brisbane bid scene (eg what brand Brisbane Easts choose this time, how a Western Corridor bid positions itself, what other SE-Qld bids pop up that weren't there last time).. but by not explicitly ruling out that area, it risks the ire of the existing NRL clubs there, not to mention News Ltd with their Broncos stake - and that might be too many headaches to raise right now.

My hope is that the NRL open it up to everywhere EXCEPT SE-Queensland - fish for bids that are in a new, COMPLETELY unrepresented places. They already have a read on who's interested around the Brisbane area (or at least, who was putting their hands up 2 years ago).. and that market can be revisited later, so let's see what else is out there?

As you say, it's a good way to get a guage on not just the 18th team, but also options for 19th and/or 20th teams.

It's very possible that an unsuccessful "18th team" bid from outside Brisbane will get the nod as team 19 or 20, after being asked to brush-up their business case a little - and likewise, one of the unsuccessful bids for team 17 may have their time in that expansion phase as well.

 

[Pippen94]

Brisbane 3 won't generate more pay TV subscriptions in Brisbane.

Yes they will. NRL is bigger in Brisbane so it gets more spotlight & promotion. Dolphins showed potential targeting specific area

 

[Pippen94]

That's got absolutely nothing to do with Foxtel subscriptions.

..Perth has nothing to with fox subs