18th club, whose next?

[sportsnut]

Huge crowd in Perth incoming. Clear message has to be Perth.

 

[Colk]

18 team is expansion regardless of location. Ever heard of math?!

Hilarious. In spirit.

A third Brisbane is adding a team but in essence is just consolidating a market, as you’re scared of what your competitor is doing.

You see it differently though, as is your want.

 

[Colk]

Yeah very brave lol!

Brisbane is a muggy shithole with a beige generic coastal culture and nothing particularly unique or interesting about it, where as Melbourne is a modern metropolitan city that wishes it was one of the great European cities in their prime.

As a person who's relatively well travelled and lived overseas for extended periods, all Australian cities are backwaters in the grand scheme of things, and which is the best of the lot is A. subjective in most regards, B. is totally irrelevant from the argument.
All of Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, Perth, and Adelaide, are more or less as capable of hosting Magic Round as any other, and it's in the best interests of the sport that all should be given fair opportunity to do so if they so wish.

Wishing that you are doesn’t mean that you are.

You have inadvertently addressed the problem that Melbourne has. There is a certain arrogance about how it perceives itself.

I remember being in Europe with a couple of people from Melbourne and they were claiming Vienna reminded them of home. I had to shake my head at that comparison.

I agree with your overall statement. Australian cities themselves are not particularly exciting to visit. They are obviously high on liveability but not high on desirable places to visit.

 

[mongoose]

All Australian cities are very liveable but not that exciting to visit... Sydney offers the most idyllic version of Australia but if you want to live that lifestyle you need to be a multi-millionaire. I guess Perth offers something similar and more affordable but Perth is too sterile, quiet and isolated imo. Brisbane is nothing special but it has great surrounds if you like the outdoors - beach, mountains, waterfalls, rainforest all within an hours drive...

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It won’t be brisbane3, put your house on it. Nrl will remember all too clealry how the titans started off like a house on fire and 5 years later were in the shtter.

Theyll want to give dolphins breathing space before introducing another mouth to feed in that city. And thats before we get on to the broncos opinion lol

You're comparing apples with orange. Brisbane and Gold Coast are separate cities with vastly different economies and culture.

The problems at the Titans were caused by them having to build the basic infrastructure of an NRL team after they were introduced into the competition without having any money in the bank because they were created from scratch. The Centre of Excellence bankrupted the club because it was built on borrowed money. The loan was meant to be covered by earnings from football operations. The projected earnings from football operations nose-dived after their first few years. That's the problem with creating a "neutral" club from scratch without money in the bank and expecting the local economy to fund it.

There's zero chance of this scenario happening with the Redcliffe Dolphins and Brisbane Tigers because both clubs have money in the bank and already own the infrastructure needed to compete in the NRL.

Brisbane has a much larger business sector to support the Broncos, Dolphins and the Tigers when they enter the NRL.

If we're being honest, a Perth-based team will share a lot in common with the Titans. It will be built on a similar model, relying solely on the local business sector and revenue from football operations in a market that doesn't value rugby league.

There's no way a Perth-based club will generate as much revenue from football operations as the Redcliffe Dolphins. Not even close. The Dolphins are already averaging 21k fans per game, despite playing a few of them at small venues. They're not far behind the Broncos on revenue from sponsorship. A Perth-based team will probably average 12-16k fans per game if all things go well. Its main stadium lacks the facilities that are needed to generate a large sum from corporate hospitality. To put things in perspective, the Gold Coast Titans have a better stadium than Perth Oval and aren't competing against two AwFuL teams, a Super Rugby team, an A-League team and an NBL team. We know how they've gone without an asset base to fall back on. Perth won't have an asset base because gaming machines are illegal in WA.

 

[Bukowski]

Comparing the attributes of Melbourne to Brisbane is brave. Very brave.

Not even worth responding too.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

All cities have their strong points, despite what The Great Dope says.

Except Melbourne which is an absolute shithole full of cult members.

 

[Bukowski]

Hahahah ...
channel 9 will say anything just remember what they say a week later... its all publicity

But that's the thing. They arnt broadcasting the game so this exposure is weird for them.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Broncos, Titans and Dolphins will all push back hard if its another Brisbane team. I'll be very surprised if team 18 comes from there....

Titans opposed Redcliffe's entry. V'landys didn't bow down to their whinging.

The 18th licence will be determined by the broadcasters because they foot the bulk of the game's income. Ch9 have already stated they want a third Brisbane team. The writing is on the wall.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Not even worth responding too.

If we're going by interstate migration trends, then plenty of Victorians have decided that Brisbane is a better place to live than Melbourne.

Victoria is such a basket case it cannot afford to host the Commonwealth Games. Queensland hosted the Commonwealth Games in 2018 and will host the Olympics in 2032.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

But that's the thing. They arnt broadcasting the game so this exposure is weird for them.

I don't know if you're taking the piss, but in the advent that you're being serious:

NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo has pledged the NRL’s record broadcast rights revenue will be spread from grassroots right through to the game’s elite players after signing a five-year extension with Nine Entertainment Co for the free-to-air television rights.

NRL and Nine sign broadcast deal worth $575m

amp.smh.com.au

 

[Pneuma]

All cities have their strong points, despite what The Great Dope says.

Except Melbourne which is an absolute shithole full of cult members.

One of the reasons I never liked the place was the attitude of cult members there if you didn’t follow their fumbling. Pack of idiots.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

During breaks in the on-field action, Mediaweek caught up with Head of Nine Queensland, Kylie Blucher, and Head of Strategy WWOS, Simon Fordham.

...

For Fordham, making the most of this momentum looks like bringing more games to the region – and potentially another team.

Fordham: “We’re really committed to working with the NRL in growing the competition, and Queensland is a big part of that. We think there’s room for another team here in Queensland, and the Dolphins have been the perfect example.

“The more games we can get played featuring Queensland teams in Southeast Queensland, the better. The engagement in rugby league here is just next level, and the energy of the crowds has a material impact on the quality of the broadcasts that we make. It helps create atmosphere, it makes the commentary team rise, it makes the production team rise.”

The Battle of Brisbane: Behind Nine’s NRL push into Queensland

During the Broncos v Dolphins much hyped NRL clash, Mediaweek caught up with Nine's Kylie Blucher and Simon Fordham.

www.mediaweek.com.au

 

[Bukowski]

I don't know if you're taking the piss, but in the advent that you're being serious:

NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo has pledged the NRL’s record broadcast rights revenue will be spread from grassroots right through to the game’s elite players after signing a five-year extension with Nine Entertainment Co for the free-to-air television rights.​

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NRL and Nine sign broadcast deal worth $575m

amp.smh.com.au

They arnt broadcasting the double header. For them to talk up an event they arnt broadcasting is unusual.

 

[Bukowski]

During breaks in the on-field action, Mediaweek caught up with Head of Nine Queensland, Kylie Blucher, and Head of Strategy WWOS, Simon Fordham.​

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...​

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For Fordham, making the most of this momentum looks like bringing more games to the region – and potentially another team.​

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Fordham: “We’re really committed to working with the NRL in growing the competition, and Queensland is a big part of that. We think there’s room for another team here in Queensland, and the Dolphins have been the perfect example. ​

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“The more games we can get played featuring Queensland teams in Southeast Queensland, the better. The engagement in rugby league here is just next level, and the energy of the crowds has a material impact on the quality of the broadcasts that we make. It helps create atmosphere, it makes the commentary team rise, it makes the production team rise.”​

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The Battle of Brisbane: Behind Nine’s NRL push into Queensland

During the Broncos v Dolphins much hyped NRL clash, Mediaweek caught up with Nine's Kylie Blucher and Simon Fordham.

www.mediaweek.com.au

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So the head of nine Qld want another qld team. I'm sure the head of nine WA wants a Perth team too

 

[Pippen94]

So the head of nine Qld want another qld team. I'm sure the head of nine WA wants a Perth team too

Nine said they wanted more se qld. They said nothing about Perth.

 

[Pippen94]

If we're going by interstate migration trends, then plenty of Victorians have decided that Brisbane is a better place to live than Melbourne.

Victoria is such a basket case it cannot afford to host the Commonwealth Games. Queensland hosted the Commonwealth Games in 2018 and will host the Olympics in 2032.

Victoria is bigger economy

 

[Pippen94]

Huge crowd in Perth incoming. Clear message has to be Perth.

Yeah, lots of interstate fans visiting

Western Australia welcomes NRL in back-to-back blockbuster | Western Australian Government

Perth's huge National Rugby League (NRL) Double Header is on tomorrow (5 August) at the award-winning Optus Stadium.

www.wa.gov.au

 

[Colk]

Victoria is bigger economy

What’s your point?

 

[Colk]

Yeah, lots of interstate fans visiting

Western Australia welcomes NRL in back-to-back blockbuster | Western Australian Government

Perth's huge National Rugby League (NRL) Double Header is on tomorrow (5 August) at the award-winning Optus Stadium.

www.wa.gov.au

On the balance of probability there would be lots of locals as well.

Your media statement isn’t evidence that all of it or a significant majority of the people going to the game are from interstate.