1995 expansion... now!

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

youve gone off on a tangent from your on post here GROTD, the whole WARL/NRLWA discussion started when you insinuated that if they can't fund NSWCup side they don't deserve a NRL side



NRL WA is an extension of the NRL, they are not financially independent - so te only way they could be in a position to run a NSW cup side would be if the NRL allocated enough funds, which they don't to any of the affiliated states

The 2013 West Australian article said more than half of WARL's annual budget was provided by the ARLC. The grant was $700,000. It was a largely ineffective body if it raised less than $700,000 on its own.

 

[Perth Red]

You have no concept of the reality for RL outside nsw and qnlnd!

 

[Perth Red]

Catch 22
they will never see any value/improvement from the affiliate states without increasing funding in the grassroots from the scraps they barely receive now

Wouldn't surprise me if the AFL put more money into a tiny market like the NT or TAS than the NRL does into Vic, WA and SA combined - and we are all surprised that the AFL keeps growing, while we are always stuck on the defensive....

ones a national sport, ones a two state sport with pretences to be something national.

 

[greenBV4]

ones a national sport, ones a two state sport with pretences to be something national.

both are (or atleast could be) national sports

but only one is a national competition

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You have no concept of the reality for RL outside nsw and qnlnd!

I know it's discriminated against heavily outside of Queensland, New South Wales and PNG. It comes down to being a much younger sport than its main rivals, linked with the maligned and powerless lower class and, not being introduced into new frontiers until similar games had well and truly established themselves.

The game didn't become a 13 man code until 1906. The upper class were always going to stick with RU and, the other countries that might have embraced our game when they revolted from RU were off the table as they invented similar sports that filled the void long before they heard of RL. Fumbleball was well and truly established in the southern states by the time RL was introduced. Ditto for American and Canadian football in North America.

The upper class were never going to use their contacts and wealth to spread our game at the expense of theirs. Our administrators didn't have the money or connections to introduce and fund the game in new markets.

Adding NRL clubs to Adelaide and Perth will take generations to gain traction because the demographics who are likely to resonate with the game are emotionally and financially invested in fumbleball. We're talking about family lineages that have supported fumbleball for over 100 years. The main advantage AwFuL had over our game is they already had a base to work with, as their game was played here before RL existed but not culturally entrenched as the people hadn't revolted against RU, fuelled by immigration into Queensland and New South Welshmen by southerners.

PNG shunned fumbleball not longer after RL was introduced because the brutal nature of our game allows them to embrace their tribalism in a non-lethal setting.

New Zealand is far more likely than Adelaide and Perth to adopt our game. It's why I say forget about the fumbleball states and focus on Brisbane and New Zealand.

 

[mongoose]

The world is different place now and keeps changing rapidly. Younger people are splitting up their attention between many different things. Everything is so accessible now - sport, tv, music, movies, games, social media....

The reason why its not good to have 9 teams in Sydney and none in places like Perth and Adelaide is because the demographics of Sydney have changed dramatically over the last 20 years. Younger generation in Sydney and immigrants are not going to jump on League in large numbers like they might have decades ago. There is little room for growth for many Sydney clubs. Perth has 2 million people an NRL team can appeal to. To say they will only ever like fumble ball and no one will give League a chance is short sited.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The world is different place now and keeps changing rapidly. Younger people are splitting up their attention between many different things. Everything is so accessible now - sport, tv, music, movies, games, social media....

The reason why its not good to have 9 teams in Sydney and none in places like Perth and Adelaide is because the demographics of Sydney have changed dramatically over the last 20 years. Younger generation in Sydney and immigrants are not going to jump on League in large numbers like they might have decades ago. There is little room for growth for many Sydney clubs. Perth has 2 million people an NRL team can appeal to. To say they will only ever like fumble ball and no one will give League a chance is short sited.

Technology has shortened people's attention spans. There's just too many options for young people these days.

If a Perth team is to succeed it will need the ARLC to get the game played in schools, run clinics at schools by the West Coast Pirates non-stop, hand out free tickets to the kids who take part in the clinics and sign up with a local junior club and, have the brand plastered all over the city where ever the kids are and run ads during kids programming on FTA. Do that for 20 years and the Pirates will have a chance.

An undertaking of this magnitude will need millions of dollars from the ARLC.
The question remains, will the ARLC, 16 NRL clubs, QRL and NSWRL ever let it happen?

They will all want the same funds handed to them. It will turn out to be an incredibly expensive exercise.

 

[Perth Red]

The answer is no they won’t. we aren’t afl and don’t have any vision to be a national code. It will come back to bite us time and time again.