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Discussion in 'NRL Expansion' started by MugaB, Sep 10, 2020.

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Which 4 Areas of growth should NRL expand to

This poll will close on Mar 10, 2021 at 4:21 AM.
  1. Auckland (Pacifika team)

    3 vote(s)
    16.7%
  2. New Zealand (Wellington)

    4 vote(s)
    22.2%
  3. New Zealand (South Island)

    9 vote(s)
    50.0%
  4. Morton bay (Dophins)

    3 vote(s)
    16.7%
  5. Sunshine Coast

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Cairns

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Brisbane West (ipswich)

    3 vote(s)
    16.7%
  8. Brisbane (Suncorp rival)

    11 vote(s)
    61.1%
  9. Perth

    14 vote(s)
    77.8%
  10. Adelaide

    10 vote(s)
    55.6%
  11. Central Coast

    2 vote(s)
    11.1%
  12. Melbourne (rival)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Darwin

    1 vote(s)
    5.6%
  14. Central Queenland

    1 vote(s)
    5.6%
  15. New South Wales Country

    1 vote(s)
    5.6%
  16. Papua New Guinea

    4 vote(s)
    22.2%
  17. Fiji

    1 vote(s)
    5.6%
  18. Hobart

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  19. Sydney no.9 (e.g norths or newtown)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. adamkungl

    adamkungl Immortal

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    SE-QLD
    Perth
    Adelaide
    NZ-South

    They are the only realistic options - and in Perth and Adelaide's cases, absolutely necessary.
    There are different approaches that might work for QLD and NZ so I'll refrain from nominating a specific one.
     
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  2. MugaB

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    So are you saying a SE-QLD Club on the Sunshine coast or Morton Bay and a Wellington, New Zealand Club are also the better candidates than existing stadiums of Brisbane City and Auckland to share a team, not saying y ou have to pick one, but surely theres a preference on a suncorp rival club, or a more regional SEqld option etc
     
  3. adamkungl

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    SE Qld could be Sunshine Coast, Redcliffe, Ipswich, Easts, a combined QRL merger team, a standalone new club, etc.
    My preferred option is a new club called South Queensland, perhaps with some QCup clubs holding a minority financial stake. Any club has to play the lions share of its games out of Lang Park. Forget about suburban stuff.

    New Zealand, I could see either full time out of the new stadium in Christchurch (significantly larger population than Wellington) or some split with Wellington. Not interested in another Auckland (or Hamilton) idea.
     
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  4. MugaB

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    Reviving the SQ crushers idea, but basically the Suncorp rival, (brisbane rival) and a South Island Nz team based in Christchurch, i like the whole North Vs South island idea
     
  5. Get Rid of The Donkeys

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    North Island Warriors and South Island Orcas/Cyclones could work.

    If you were to add four at once then there's only 2 locations that will bring in the money needed to fund them.

    17th Brisbane 2
    18th NZ 2
    19th Brisbane 3
    20th NZ 3

    Ch9 and Foxtel are not going to fork out $92 million to fund the salary cap and annual grant of four teams if two of them are based in Adelaide and Perth. The average rating for those two cities is 5k-12k, according to The_Wookie. He said Mel average 11k for all teams bar Storm and 17k for the Storm.

    Having 3 teams in NZ would allow a Sunday arvo game from NZ each week from 2pm AEST. Foxtel then have 3 games on Saturday and 3 on Sunday. Ratings in NZ will increase. It also allows 12 games a year to be played in NZ at 6pm Friday night. The 3 clubs could have 4 games each at this time. That will be great for the Australian clubs as they won't have to play the game at this unfriendly slot, and in NZ it will be 8pm, so they should be able to draw a good crowd.

    Monday night football could be brought back for the 10th game, and sold to the highest bidder. Ch10 or C7 might be interested at throwing a few million to have a Monday night game that's played in a time slot that's not used by any of the other sporting leagues.
     
  6. flippikat

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    it's tricky comparing the population of Christchurch vs Wellington.

    If you strictly count "Wellington City", then Christchurch comes out on top.. but if you add in the neighbouring cities of Porirua, (Lower) Hutt City and Upper Hutt City then Greater Wellington - the region - has more people... and all well within an hours drive or commuter train.

    However, as much as it pains me to say this - Wellington pales compared to Christchurch when it comes to sporting prowess & sporting culture. We just don't produce great sporting dynasties, apart from the Wellington Saints basketball team. As a Wellington sports fan, you learn from a young age that success is fleeting. We're an art city more than a sport city.

    Not so in Christchurch - especially under their provincial 'Canterbury' guise. They're formidable in pretty much anything, their fans expect their sides to dominate other teams, and they have a rivalry with Auckland that verges on Origin intensity. That, coupled with the far better stadium they have in the pipeline really puts them in pole position IMO.
     
  7. adamkungl

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    That was roughly my understanding
    For Wellington, a better fit might be the NZRL working with the 2 (we can dream) NZ teams to ensure that between them and test matches there are a handful of games each year in the capital.
     
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    Wellington seems like a city run by Uni students... Really cool little city though, great food.
     
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    Uni students, Government white-collar workers who used to be Uni students, and artists who dropped out of Uni. That's pretty much the central city. ;)
     
  10. taipan

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    Thought Dunedin was the city run by uni students.
    Think new Oz sides need preference over a 2nd NZ side.
     
  11. Get Rid of The Donkeys

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    The 16 clubs will probably oppose any attempt to introduce a 17th and 18th team. Each new team is a competitor eating into the game's limited resources.

    PVL is the only man capable of getting a new team into the NRL. He knows Brisbane is the only viable option. Broadcasters want a second Brisbane team. It's the only option that will add money to the game. NZ 2 has the potential to add money to the NZ broadcast rights.
     
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