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1st Test: South Africa v India @ Centurion Dec 26-30, 2021

TheParraboy

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3 test series commences on boxing day

India should be too strong, lot of changes for the Proteas

They are making a lot of excuses why they have been crap.

They are also looking to field 7 players of colour in the side. For now it stands at 6





It's been six months since South Africa last played a Test, in a series that was designed to kick-start their renaissance in the longest format. Under a new captain, Dean Elgar, and with no one remaining from the squad that lifted the Test mace in 2012, South Africa took the first steps on their new journey with a 2-0 win over West Indies, a solid start that they have the opportunity to build on now.

This summer is crucial to South Africa's hopes of faring better in the second World Test Championship cycle than the first, where they finished fifth. Considering the calamitous two years South African cricket had between 2019 and 2021 both on and off the field, that final position may even flatter them, but it still sits uncomfortably. This is a country with a history of going nine years unbeaten on the road and who still managed to establish some fortresses at home. With a fierce attack and a mostly reliable, if not always exciting, batting line-up, South Africa's best quality was that they used to be very, very tough to beat, and they want to get that back. So far there have been several reasons why that hasn't been allowed to happen.

For a start, the Covid-19 pandemic has robbed South Africa of regular Test cricket. While a six-month break over what has mostly been winter in a World Cup year is not entirely unusual, South Africa have only played five Tests in 2021, so far. They should have played nine but Australia opted not to travel for a four-Test series in March. Now they have three series back-to-back, with three Tests against India, two in New Zealand and two more against Bangladesh, before an August tour to England for three more Tests. If all goes as planned, South Africa should play at least ten Tests in 2022, and can build on the foundation they laid in the Caribbean.

A second factor that has stood in South Africa's way of developing has been the regularity of big-name retirements. Since Mark Boucher's in 2012, they have lost an icon player almost every year: Jacques Kallis in 2013, Graeme Smith in 2014, Alviro Petersen in 2015; JP Duminy in 2017, as also Kyle Abbott to Kolpak; Morne Morkel and AB de Villiers in 2018; Duanne Olivier in 2019 (though he is back since) and Hashim Amla and Dale Steyn; Vernon Philander in 2020; and Faf du Plessis in 2021. That's a baker's dozen of players who held down spots in the team, so it's no exaggeration to say there has been an overhaul of the entire team. South Africa have also had five captains and five coaches in the last nine years, and CSA have been through five CEOs. So yes, Elgar had a point when he spoke about lack of stability. Which brings us to the drama.

From changing transformation targets, to a domestic restructure that was being challenged in the courts, to an administration on the brink of collapse, playing cricket in this country has never been only about what happens on the field. In the last two years that has been felt more acutely than ever before. In dealing with the aftermath of former CEO Thabang Moroe's suspension and subsequent firing, CSA have been forced to deal with one of the central issues of Moroe's term, which was a push for higher quotas.

Since 2016, the national men's team has been required to field six players of colour, including at least two black Africans, on average over the course of a season. Last year there was a move to push that up to seven players of colour, with a minimum of three black players, which was proposed by the old board and put in abeyance by the interim board. The new board is understood to be reviewing the targets, but for now, the status quo of six players of colour including two black Africans, remains.







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TheParraboy

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QDK is still there.

I thought south africa might have banned him after the WC


They probably would have had he not responded when he refused to play that game in the WC.

Probably couldnt sack him after he replied with his side of the story and reasons why he walked. Board would have look liked dills
 

Eelectrica

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Feel like South Afrilca are going the way of the West Indies. Not sure if they'll be the force they were any time soon. Need to get rid of the quota system and trust the selectors to pick the best players available.

Selectors get it wrong, like us with Marcus Harris or England with their odd choices lately, but no malice in it.
 

AlwaysGreen

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Surely by now they've moved on from that though so that the quota system is no longer needed?
Some of the stuff from the recent commission is pretty damning. This is just the most recent articles I found.



Smarter people than me have tried to solve the issues in South Africa so I won't pretend to know the answers.
 

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Gee SA are poor these days, has world cricket ever been weaker??? Only India/ NZ and us are playing test cricket at a decent level. England are absolute trash when it isn’t swinging around corners for their ancient quicks.
 

AlwaysGreen

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Gee SA are poor these days, has world cricket ever been weaker??? Only India/ NZ and us are playing test cricket at a decent level. England are absolute trash when it isn’t swinging around corners for their ancient quicks.
World cricket has never been better, haven't you been watching the reverse helicopter ramps for maximums off Knuckleballs during the power surge in the Big Smash Hundred?
 

Bazal

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Gee SA are poor these days, has world cricket ever been weaker??? Only India/ NZ and us are playing test cricket at a decent level. England are absolute trash when it isn’t swinging around corners for their ancient quicks.

It's interesting. T20 cricket creates some issues but isn't to blame for there being absolutely no talent in some countries.

SA, Windies, Sri Lanka are cesspits of mismanagement and political bullshit. Bangladesh have gone backwards for the same kind of reasons. England have just exposed a massive priority issue...
 
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