2008 HM & SG Ball Thread

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All information concerning the 2008 NSWRL Harold Matthews (Under 16's) and SG Ball (Under 18's) competitions will be held in this thread.

Cheers.

 

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Round 1 - 16th February 2008 - vs BYE
Round 2 - 23rd February 2008 - vs Newcastle Knights - AWAY
Round 3 - 1st March 2008 - vs Canterbury Bulldogs - HOME
Round 4 - 8th March 2008 - vs Souths Sydney Rabbitohs - HOME
Round 5 - 15th March 2008 - vs Canberra Raiders - HOME
Round 6 - 22nd March 2008 - vs Illawarra Steelers - HOME
Round 7 - 29th March 2008 - vs Penrith Panthers - AWAY
Round 8 - 5th April 2008 - vs Balmain Tigers - AWAY
Round 9 - 12th April 2008 - vs Parramatta Eels - AWAY
Round 10 - 19th April 2008 - vs North Sydney Bears - AWAY
Round 11 - 26th April 2008 - vs Sydney Roosters - TBA
Quarter Finals - 3rd May 2008
Semi Finals - 10th May 2008
Grand Final - 17th May 2008

 

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The 2008 squads for both comps have been finalised:

HAROLD MATTHEWS

BEN ASKEW
JAMES COOTE
NATHAN CLARKE
LUKE DEAVES
BADEN DONEGAL
ANO HARRIS
COREY HEWITSON
BRENDAN HURD
JASON HAYWARD
WILLIAM HOPOATE
BOYD KILLINGWORTH
JOHN MOKOFISI
CHASE McMILLAN
DYLAN MAESTRI
SIMON NORTH
BEN RUSSO
ADAM STALGIS
HAAMI KERR-TUAUPIKI
LUKE VESCIO
SAM WOLFGRAMM
RYAN WEARNE
PITA WRIGHT
AARON WESTON


SG BALL

SIONE ALA
JASON ANNEAR
BRAD BENNETT
NATHAN BURGIO
JAMES CUNNINGHAM
WILLIAM DUNN
DAVID DROTINI
CAMERON DYER
PETER GALLEN
LUKE HADDRICK
DAVID HATZIMARKOS
MITCHELL JOWETT
BRENDAN LAHOUD
BRAD MEANEY
JAKE MORRIS
LUKE PRESTON
MALCOLM PARRY
MITCHELL PORTER
ROBERT PULIUVEA
DAVID SHEEHAN
BEN SHORTER
CHRIS STOLK
LAMA TASI
DAVID THOMAS
JACK WEBSTER

Both teams will have two official trials before the competition kicks off on the 16th of February.

Trial 1 v North Sydney Saturday 2nd Feb TJ Milner Field - AM start times tbc
Trial 2 v Parramatta Saturday 9th Feb Brookvale Oval Matts 3.30pm / Ball 5.00pm

NOTE: Squads courtesy of MWSE.com

 

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Harold Matthews and SG Ball First Trial vs Norths Sydney Bears.

Kick Off Times:

Harold Matthews: 10:30am
SG Ball: 11:30am

Venue: TJ Milner Field.

http://www.northsydneybears.com.au/Information/trials/trials2008.htm

 

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Just got off the phone to a guy at Norths, Manly won both grades quite convincingly. He said it was "5/6 tries to 1" in each respective grade.

Good signs, altho our next trial against Parra this weekend at Brookie should give us a better indication of where we stand. I may head out to this one depending upon the weather.

Info regarding that game will be placed in this thread.

Cheers.

 

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Harold Matthews and SG Ball Second Trial vs Parramatta

- Saturday 9th February @ Brookvale Oval, Manly.

Kick Off Times

Harold Matthews: 3:30pm

SG Ball: 5:00pm

 

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Harold Matthews and SG Ball Second Trial vs Parramatta

- Saturday 9th February @ Brookvale Oval, Manly.

Kick Off Times

Harold Matthews: 3:30pm

SG Ball: 5:00pm

I fear it is going to be ugly

 

[rambo1]

I fear it is going to be ugly

Parra are strong in Matts this year. They have beaten Newcastle and smashed Illawarra on the weekend. I don't think Para are anywhere near as strong in Ball this year. They got smashed by Newcastle and it was even against Illawarra. My tip ; Parra in Matts and Manly in Ball.

 

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Parra are strong in Matts this year. They have beaten Newcastle and smashed Illawarra on the weekend. I don't think Para are anywhere near as strong in Ball this year. They got smashed by Newcastle and it was even against Illawarra. My tip ; Parra in Matts and Manly in Ball.

You are kiddding about the SG Ball. If you were at the Narabeen camp Jan 22 - 25 you wouldn't bee saying that. SG Ball will struggle this year and the coaching staff know that.

There were a few very promising kids there ( at the camp) but all of them went home (Qld or the bush) when it finished. They were a class above the others. They have been signed by Crusher in the last 12 months but they are not moving down to Manly until next year 2009.

The SGBall will better in 2009 and so will the NYC. Crusher will have picked up some more kids by then.

 

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You are kiddding about the SG Ball. If you were at the Narabeen camp Jan 22 - 25 you wouldn't bee saying that. SG Ball will struggle this year and the coaching staff know that.

There were a few very promising kids there ( at the camp) but all of them went home (Qld or the bush) when it finished. They were a class above the others. They have been signed by Crusher in the last 12 months but they are not moving down to Manly until next year 2009.

The SGBall will better in 2009 and so will the NYC. Crusher will have picked up some more kids by then.

Is there any particular reason behind that? I agree with what your saying, we might win a few games and be competitive but lose in others but we wont go anywhere near giving it a shake.

Any idea bout our Matts chances? Will Hopoate is still in there :lol: would have to be his third year I'd say :lol:.

 

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Is there any particular reason behind that? I agree with what your saying, we might win a few games and be competitive but lose in others but we wont go anywhere near giving it a shake.

Any idea bout our Matts chances? Will Hopoate is still in there :lol: would have to be his third year I'd say :lol:.

Young hopa is still in Matts. I thnk they've lost his birth certificate.

As far as the Ball Team. They don't come accross as a skilful team. If they are going to be competitive it will come by playing a simple game style and defend well and keep the error count.

They went ok against the Bears in the bog last week and those type of conditions will suit them.

 

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Young hopa is still in Matts. I thnk they've lost his birth certificate.

As far as the Ball Team. They don't come accross as a skilful team. If they are going to be competitive it will come by playing a simple game style and defend well and keep the error count.

They went ok against the Bears in the bog last week and those type of conditions will suit them.

I think most of the Ball team will only be 16 this year. IIRC, there are plenty of kids that played in Matts last year, so I'd presume most of them will be able to play Ball again in 09.

It'll be interesting to see how we go! All I know is every year we are becoming increasingly competitive in the junior grades which is great for a side with such a poor Rugby League demographic. We're getting there, although like anything good, it'll take time.

*EDIT* April, is there a reason why Crusher couldn't bring the players down from QLD and the bush for the 08 season?

 

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Because they are still at school. Some had options to come to Sydney for part or for the full year.

The recruitment age now is under 15 & 16. After that age the best boys are gone. Crusher has only been on his blitz for 12 months, so it will take another year before we see how good a job he has done.

There are a few boys who are already down.
Big Freddy Edwards a 120kg boy from the Gold Coast, struggling a bit with the training at the moment. Daly Cherry-Evans a half back who was the Brisbane Colts (U19) Player of the Year in 2007. In 2006 he played 1st Grade in Mackay in his father's coached team. I reckon he will end up a hooker like his dad. David Drotni a sec rower from Brisbane

I agree that Manly could have it's best SG Ball team for ages in 2009. Although a couple of these players who I think will make it a good team may go straight through to NYC.

 

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Because they are still at school. Some had options to come to Sydney for part or for the full year.

The recruitment age now is under 15 & 16. After that age the best boys are gone. Crusher has only been on his blitz for 12 months, so it will take another year before we see how good a job he has done.

There are a few boys who are already down.
Big Freddy Edwards a 120kg boy from the Gold Coast, struggling a bit with the training at the moment. Daly Cherry-Evans a half back who was the Brisbane Colts (U19) Player of the Year in 2007. In 2006 he played 1st Grade in Mackay in his father's coached team. I reckon he will end up a hooker like his dad. David Drotni a sec rower from Brisbane

Yeah thats what I thought. I definitely agree with the point your making, we really have to snap the juniors up nice and early otherwise it's too late. With that being said however, we havent really been known as a club that develops a lot of juniors, but I think thats the path we're heading down - and I really like it. Crusher is definitely doing a great job with junior development - just hope he continues with the recruitment 'blitz' as you referred to it as.

I agree that Manly could have it's best SG Ball team for ages in 2009. Although a couple of these players who I think will make it a good team may go straight through to NYC.

I think you have to sacrifice the success of one grade for possible success and experience in the other. Obviously in this case, you want your best juniors playing in the NYC. I'd prefer them to be playing against the level of players in the Toyota Cup as opposed to SG Ball - will only do their game wonders. Just on that matter, Kieran Foran is still eligible for SG Ball, but he'll play the majority of the season in the Toyota Cup, and might even crack first grade in 08, if not, definitely 09.

 

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Results from today's trials against Parra at Brookie will be posted soon.

Cheers.

 

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Just been informed Manly called the trials off due to bad weather. According to a Parra source, half the Parra side where on their way to Brookie when Manly management let them know about the decision. Bit unfortunate really.

Just a bit worried that our preparation coming into this competition has been ordinary. A patchy hit-out against Norths (a team that normally finishes near the bottom of the ladder) - then two weeks off leading into the competition... hmmm.. leaves nothing to be desired IMO.

Anyway, the comp begins next week (Sat 16 February).

Along with Newcastle and the Roosters, Manly has the Bye, however the following matches are being played.

Harold Matts:

Parramatta Eels vs St George Dragons @ Cabramatta Sports Ground
South Sydney Rabbitohs vs Penrith Panthers @ Erskineville Oval
South West Sydney Academy vs Cronulla Sharks @ Kirkham Park, Camden
Balmain Tigers vs Illawarra Steelers @ Leichhardt Oval
Western Sydney Academy of Sport vs Western Suburbs Magpies @ Ringrose Oval
Canberra Raiders vs Central Coast Storm @ Seiffert Oval
Bulldogs vs North Sydney Bears @ The Crest, Bass Hill

SG Ball:

Exactly the same as HM's draw - however Gold Coast Titans replace the South West Sydney Academy:

Gold Coast Titans vs Cronulla Sharks @ Betty Diamond Complex, Tugun

THIS WEEK:

NEXT WEEK

Cheers.

 

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Round 1 Results.

The first round of the 2008 Harold Matthews and SG Ball competition was played on Saturday the 16th of February. Manly had the Bye in Round 1, however the following results were recorded in their respective grades.

Harold Matthews Competition.

Parramatta Eels 48 d St George Dragons 0 @ Cabramatta Sports Ground
Penrith Panthers 26 d South Sydney Rabbitohs 14 @ Erskineville Oval
Cronulla Sharks 34 d South West Sydney Academy 12 @ Kirkham Park, Camden
Illawarra Steelers 32 d Balmain Tigers 14 @ Leichhardt Oval
Western Suburbs Magpies 20 d Western Sydney Academy of Sport 4 @ Ringrose Oval
Central Coast Storm 42 d Canberra Raiders 40 @ Seiffert Oval
Bulldogs 22 drew with North Sydney Bears 22 @ Belmore

Harold Matts ladder after Round 1

1. Parramatta Eels - 2pts - Unknown Percentage
2. Western Suburbs Magpies - 2pts - 500.00%
3. Cronulla Sharks - 2pts - 283.33%
4. Illawarra Steelers - 2pts - 228.57%
5. Penrith Panthers - 2pts - 185.71%
6. Central Coast Storm - 2pts - 105.00%
7. Manly Sea Eagles - 2pts - BYE
8. Sydney Roosters - 2pts - BYE
9. Newcastle Knights - 2pts - BYE
10. North Sydney Bears - 1pt - 100.00%
11. Bulldogs - 1pt - 100.00%
12. Canberra Raiders - 0pts - 95.23%
13. South Sydney Rabbitohs - 0pts - 53.84%
14. Balmain Tigers - 0pts - 43.75%
15. South West Sydney Academy of Sport - 0pts - 35.29%
16. Western Sydney Academy of Sport - 0pts - 20.00%
17. St George Dragons - 0 pts - 0%

SG Ball Competition.

Parramatta Eels 22 d St George Dragons 12 @ Cabramatta Sports Ground
Penrith Panthers 14 d South Sydney Rabbitohs 12 @ Erskineville Oval
Gold Coast Titans 30 drew with Cronulla Sharks 30 @ Betty Diamond Oval
Illawarra Steelers 34 dBalmain Tigers 6 @ Leichhardt Oval
Western Sydney Academy of Sport 19 d Western Suburbs Magpies 18 @ Ringrose Oval
Canberra Raiders 44 d Central Coast Storm 18 @ Seiffert Oval
Bulldogs 50 d North Sydney Bears 4 @ Belmore Sports Ground

SG Ball ladder after Round 1

1. Bulldogs - 2 pts - 1250.00%
2. Illawarra Steelers - 2 pts - 566.66%
3. Canberra Raiders - 2 pts - 244.44%
4. Parramatta Eels - 2 pts - 183.33%
5. Penrith Panthers - 2 pts - 116.66%
6. Western Sydney Academy of Sport - 2 pts - 105.55%
7. Manly Sea Eagles - 2 pts - BYE
8. Sydney Roosters - 2 pts - BYE
9. Newcastle Knights - 2 pts - BYE
10. Gold Coast Titans - 1 pt - 100.00%
11. Cronulla Sharks - 1 pt - 100.00%
12. Western Suburbs Magpies - 0 pts - 94.73%
13. South Sydney Rabbitohs - 0 pts - 85.71%
14. St George Dragons - 0 pts - 54.54%
15. Central Coast Storm - 0 pts - 40.90%
16. Balmain Tigers - 0 pts - 17.64%
17. North Sydney Bears - 0 pts - 8.00%

Round 2 Fixtures.

Cronulla Sharks vs Central Coast Storm @ Toyota Park
St George Dragons vs Bulldogs @ Oki Jubilee
Newcastle Knights vs Manly Sea Eagles @ Baddeley Park, Cessnock
Parramatta Eels vs Balmain Tigers @ Cabramatta Sports Ground
Western Suburbs Magpies vs Penrith Panthers @ Campbelltown Sports Stadium
Western Sydney Academy of Sport vs North Sydney Bears @ Ringrose Oval
Canberra Raiders vs South West Sydney Academy @ TBA – Henson Park

LAST MATCH:

THIS WEEK:

NEXT WEEK:

Cheers. ​

 

[Dutchy]

Nice banners Scubs

 

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Nice banners Scubs

Credit for those go to Pumba ;-)

Helped me out heaps with a lot of banners for the upcoming season.