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2014 World Cup Draw

Bulldog Force

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Source: http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/final-draw/draw.html?intcmp=promo_fwc_hp_finaldraw_relivedraw_en

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We're in the same group as the last World Cup finalists.

LOL we're f**ked!
 
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i'm more scared of chilie than the other 2,they have the talent to smash us by 5-6 goals
results since april
2-2 vs brazil in brazil
6-0 vs iraq in denmark
2-2 vs spain in switzerland
2-0 vs england in england
1-2 vs brazil in canada
 
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group c is wide open imo any 4 of those teams can finish 1-2
and even with the form belguim are in they are not sure things in the last group,south korea and russia are big threats
 

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One thing you need to keep in mind is that most of those international teams wouldn't have been the full squad. I still think Spain/Netherlands will finish 1/2. They said that there are 3 groups of death in this World Cup - we're in one of them, with D and G being the other 2.
 

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The World Cup draw has played right into Ange Postecoglou's hands. Not that I like it. I don't. But the silver lining to the black cloud which rained on the Socceroos parade in Costa do Sauipe is that the chances of winning the 2015 Asian Cup have improved immeasurably as a result. And that's got to be the end game for this difficult period of transition after all.

The Australian reaction to a draw which has given us the two finalists from the last World Cup and one of South America's toughest teams has been very PC. Players have talked about their excitement about being tested against the best. Postecoglou has talked about 'embracing the challenge'. All true, to a point.

But let's not ignore the blindingly obvious. We won't get through. Am I the only person in Australia who was hoping for a team like Switzerland, or Bosnia-Herzegovina, or Greece, or Algeria, or even Ecuador to give us a fighting chance of reaching the knockout stage? I've always been a glass half-full kind of guy when it comes to the Socceroos, but even I cannot allow myself one percent of hope that we will get out of this group. The international reaction to our 'Group of Death' draw takes all the emotion out of the discussion. No one gives us a snowflake's chance in hell of progressing. To be frank, I can't even see us getting a point.

Do I find that disappointing? Well, yes, I do. I've been fortunate enough to have been to the last six World Cups, and it's the fairytales I tend to remember. Much as I have enormous faith in Postecoglou's coaching - and I'm sure the players will be primed to rise to the occasion - there won't be any fairytales in Cuiaba, Porto Alegre or Coritiba. That's not pessimistic. It's realistic. C'mon, admit it, it would have been nice to dare to dream.
So what do we do instead? We use the World Cup to prepare for the Asian Cup, that's what we do. And in that sense the draw is a godsend. There's now no pressure on the Socceroos to get results in Brazil. Absolutely none. Postecoglou has a completely free hand to select his squad with the Asian Cup in mind. Bad news for a few veterans who have probably already played their last game. But good news for the emerging talent which, until now, has been held back in deference to the so-called 'Golden Generation'.
Even better, these players, the coaching staff, and the team as a collective, will be given the best-possible tune-up free of charge. What would it cost to arrange friendlies against Spain, Chile and The Netherlands? Let's just say there wouldn't be much change from the $8.8million the FFA is reportedly getting for participating in the World Cup. This way Postecoglou gets to learn more about his players, and perhaps himself, than he could have hoped for under any other circumstances. And that, to me, is the real excitement from the draw.

Unlike Germany, unlike South Africa, the environment in and around the team in Brazil will be cool, calm, and collected. That's a rare privilege, and means Postecoglou has the luxury of working without distraction, without interference, and, yes, without pressure.

Each game can be planned in splendid isolation. How the team, and how individuals, contend with the varied tactical and technical challenges presented by Spain, The Netherlands and Chile, will tell Postecoglou everything he needs to know.

The World Cup has, to me, become Mission Impossible. Winning the Asian Cup, by contrast, remains a realistic target. Ideally, things would have turned out differently. But that's the luck of the draw, after all.

SOURCE: Football Federation Australia.

Good angle on it all.
 

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SOURCE: Football Federation Australia.

Good angle on it all.

LOL at using the World Cup to prepare for the Asian Cup.

You don't use the World Cup to prepare for anything else. It's the WORLD CUP FFS! As Australians we should know that you don't take World Cup appearances for granted. It's the pinnacle of the sport.

What idiot wrote this article?
 

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Realistically we need to at least get a draw against either Netherlands or Spain, and with our roster, I doubt that's possible.
 

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LOL at using the World Cup to prepare for the Asian Cup.

You don't use the World Cup to prepare for anything else. It's the WORLD CUP FFS! As Australians we should know that you don't take World Cup appearances for granted. It's the pinnacle of the sport.

What idiot wrote this article?

It makes perfect sense given the position we're in. Our previous coach insisted on keeping the old guard around, so our younger guys aren't ready while our older guys are too past it to be a real threat to the very high calibre opposition we've been drawn against.

We are next to zero chance of progressing given the position Osieck and the FFA allowed things to get to.

We do, however, have a very good chance of winning the Asian Cup on home soil if Postecoglou can get our young guys to the level required to compete. The World Cup is a great place to get them that big game experience, and since we're no chance of progressing, people aren't going to be upset when we inevitably finish fourth in our group.
 

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Not a chance in hell of even finishing 3rd in that group. When you struggle to beat the likes of Iraq and Jordan in the qualifiers, you don't even deserve to be there in the first place...
 

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I think the magic (and weak draw) of 2006 gave us a pretty false hope TBH. We are Australia FFS, we should be happy just to be there, and we have a team who has got through to the second round of the world cup!

I lived in Scotland for quite a while, their team has never made it past the group stage, and their national pedigree for football is much stronger than ours.

I know it sucks we're going to get our pants pulled down on the world stage, but relax, and just enjoy watching us play some great teams, who knows, it's a game of 11 on 11 at the end of the day. Strange things have happened in football before, almost every Champions League, World Cup etc there is a few shocks in the group stages, lets just hope against hope that one of them involves us next year!
 

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I was actually hoping the kiwis would make it. Why didn't they qualify? They went from undefeated at the last world cup to not even qualifying.
 

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They had to play Mexico

Yeah, they changed qualifying between World Cups for some reason. Probably to make it easier for North American teams to qualify - since they now play the Oceanian team (NZ) instead of the South American like last time.
 

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What are Portugals chances in the opinion of the experts here? I don't know that much about Soccer, but I always have a bet on the World Cup. I put $250 on them at $34. Yes, I know they're unlikely to actually win, but what say the eagle eyes here? Any chance of seeing my money back at all?
 
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