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2017 Crowd Watch

Billythekid

First Grade
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You don't read or need glasses,I stated despite the Shark's form being up and downright ordinary they were still able to get 17,000 plus fans at their game against the Roosters, plus a decent crowd against the Titans.
I never stated they are not getting crowds because of their up and down form ,as the crowds on Saturday nights have shown that not to be the case.The point was they have been frustrating to watch this year.Their fans will still go but find Thursday nights family wise and Friday 6pm crap.They are in the top 5.
I assert the fans would not go in numbers if they were in Souths or Dogs position on the ladder

So there is no BS. involved them's the facts whether you live in Scone,Oodnadatta,or Wallangarra.
I have stated the main reason is scheduling (with the likes of the Interstate clubs playing there on thursday nights)and to lesser degree not having an all seater stadium .

" Massive crowd issues" yes that is correct, but let's look at the facts not BS:
In any case poor form if you look at Souths and Dogs who have large supporter bases,has affected their crowds greatly.To suggest otherwise one has NFI.Have a look at the warrior's crowds drift away.

ANZ stadium ,count on your hand the number of rl fans who like it for NRL games ,in it's current configuration,dopey scheduling,Thursday nights there hilarious unless you own a helicopter to arrive with a family.6pm Friday games seriously this for backpackers and the unemployed?
There have been decent packed crowds at Wollongong,Sharks Park,Penrith Park,Brookvale at decent scheduled times, which says something to the administrators.
And a sellout at CCV stadium Roosters v Sharks.decent schedule,all seater.


Are you aware the NRL: has lobbied for new stadiums.?Ever heard of the new Parra stadium due for completion early 2019,A rebuilt ANZ and SFS.$40m for clubs C of E all State Govt monies.
Don't blame the current admin for lacking lobbying house,blame the dopey Gallop gimps,who looked on whilst the SAFL were bale to extract money form even Local councils such as Wagga to build infrastructure,plus SA oval, plus the new Perth Stadium.


Swans: Finals year after year,the vast majority of their fans within Eastern Suburbs/Lower Nth Shore and Inner City close to the SCG,playing fortnightly,no FTA,friendly scheduling,all seater oval specific stadium in a central CBD type situation.On the odd occasion has Thursday night games,their fans hated ANZ ,never have a 6pm game, team covers the whole state.Decent transport infrastructure to fit in with their family friendly scheduling.
If they had 3 years being near the a*(se end of the ladder, you think they would maintain their crowds?

You honestly believe the AFL would have the Swans playing their 3 major Vic opponents on a Thursday night or have 6 pm Friday night games?

If the NRL had all those plusses in their basket, we wouldn't be arguing crowds.

Again most if not everything you posted here is irrelevant to what I said. It's so hard to discuss anything when you keep going off on tangents. I agree scheduling is a huge issue. I agree that ANZ is a problem. I agree that poor form will affect a clubs attendance. I don't disagree with any of that and I'm not sure why you keep going on these huge defensive rants which I'm not arguing with.

Also again you have made the same point about form. Implying that the sharks form has been ordinary. You say fans turned up in spite of the sharks form implying you think their form has been bad enough to turn away fans. I'm saying that's f**king ludicrous. Reigning premiers. In 5th place. One of the favourites for the comp. How the hell is that ordinary form? Oh I forgot their home record is 5 wins and 7 losses. Oh the woes of supporting the sharks in 2017!

It's simple really, I'm only really arguing one point. The idea that the form of the sharks this year could in anyway be construed as bad enough to turn fans away. You obviously disagree with that or you wouldn't have brought up the form of the sharks at all.

I agree that if you're playing as bad as the dogs/Souths/warriors this year than fans will obviously turn away.

I'm not going to dig into the rest of your post because they're all massive seperate issues that are a discussion onto themselves. The whole conversation just blows out into these massive walls of text back and forth apart a huge variety of issues and it goes nowhere.
 

Clifferd

Coach
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How long since Canberra won anything?

Ha

Were you even alive?
1994
our 3rd title from 5 grand final appearances ... in 12 years
you see , unlike the Raiders
the description , one of the greatest rugby league sides in the games history , will not be uttered about any Sharks team , a very average club for pretty much all of its existence

enjoy your one & only title while you can , you'll cease to be the reigning premiers in a fortnight is my tip.
& they don't come round often
which makes it even more surprising the feat wasn't celebrated more by your clubs fans
quite bizzare really

Hahaha

Just turn the thread title into

Carcharias vs Raiderdave
 

taipan

Referee
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22,500
Again most if not everything you posted here is irrelevant to what I said. It's so hard to discuss anything when you keep going off on tangents. I agree scheduling is a huge issue. I agree that ANZ is a problem. I agree that poor form will affect a clubs attendance. I don't disagree with any of that and I'm not sure why you keep going on these huge defensive rants which I'm not arguing with.

Also again you have made the same point about form. Implying that the sharks form has been ordinary. You say fans turned up in spite of the sharks form implying you think their form has been bad enough to turn away fans. I'm saying that's f**king ludicrous. Reigning premiers. In 5th place. One of the favourites for the comp. How the hell is that ordinary form? Oh I forgot their home record is 5 wins and 7 losses. Oh the woes of supporting the sharks in 2017!

It's simple really, I'm only really arguing one point. The idea that the form of the sharks this year could in anyway be construed as bad enough to turn fans away. You obviously disagree with that or you wouldn't have brought up the form of the sharks at all.

I agree that if you're playing as bad as the dogs/Souths/warriors this year than fans will obviously turn away.

I'm not going to dig into the rest of your post because they're all massive seperate issues that are a discussion onto themselves. The whole conversation just blows out into these massive walls of text back and forth apart a huge variety of issues and it goes nowhere.


" Irrelevant to what you said "LOL.You brought up lobbying, you brought up the Swans not I ,and I simply stated the Shark's form has hardly been enthusiastic for fans most of the season particularly at home.
I turn up regardless,I'm a season ticket holder,I know what I see, and have fair idea of the reaction of people sitting near to me .Spend time in the Shark's threads and you might get some idea also.And I'll be at it again next year.

The other point they played against the likes of the Knights/Tigers/and Titans at home ,teams way down the ladder and they were let us say well below par..You make assumptions ,I'm implying this ,I'm implying that,I'm basing it firstly on my feelings as a passionate supporter, and what others sitting near me have stated.
It's called loyalty.And yes I'm happy they are in the top 5.That doesn't take away from their up and down form,which even the coach and captain has got them frustrated.You believe they have not a clue?

Form was brought up to show the resilience of Shark's fans who at times got frustrated this year with their form, even when scheduling was at least decent, and to show Thursday nights against Interstaters is plain dumb.If you have problem with that point of view, stiff.

I'm wasting my time discussing with you,you try to put words into my "mouth".Don't assume.
 

yobbo84

Coach
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Souffs have become the "slide of the League" with the lowest crowds in the NRL this year...

Looks like our mate Perth Red has a new team to death ride for a while....

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...nge-to-lowest-in-the-nrl-20170830-gy7gtz.html
Yes our crowds have been crap but so have all Sydney teams, really.

Bulldogs are 6th (14,039) and Souths are 16th (10,903).

However if it was Souths' home game on Good Friday this year (so we swap home attendances between the two teams in their head-to-head games this year), Souths would average 13,214 and Bulldogs would average 11,727.

Likewise Roosters are propped up by ANZAC Day.

It's a city-wide problem that needs to be addressed .
 

M2D2

Bench
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As I said you don't have a poor home record
And i told you we DO have a poor home record this year.
You have to go down to the 11th placed team to find a team who has lost more games at home than we did.
Are you f**king special or what?
 

beave

Coach
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According to multiple sources (Cowbs, Tvl Bully twitter) tonights derby is sold out. Absolute f$&@ing miracle tbh seeing as though the 'tards running our game scheduled it for a Thursday. Big ups to all the NQ and Bris fans in NQ.
 

taipan

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Billythekid

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" Irrelevant to what you said "LOL.You brought up lobbying, you brought up the Swans not I ,and I simply stated the Shark's form has hardly been enthusiastic for fans most of the season particularly at home.
I turn up regardless,I'm a season ticket holder,I know what I see, and have fair idea of the reaction of people sitting near to me .Spend time in the Shark's threads and you might get some idea also.And I'll be at it again next year.

The other point they played against the likes of the Knights/Tigers/and Titans at home ,teams way down the ladder and they were let us say well below par..You make assumptions ,I'm implying this ,I'm implying that,I'm basing it firstly on my feelings as a passionate supporter, and what others sitting near me have stated.
It's called loyalty.And yes I'm happy they are in the top 5.That doesn't take away from their up and down form,which even the coach and captain has got them frustrated.You believe they have not a clue?

Form was brought up to show the resilience of Shark's fans who at times got frustrated this year with their form, even when scheduling was at least decent, and to show Thursday nights against Interstaters is plain dumb.If you have problem with that point of view, stiff.

I'm wasting my time discussing with you,you try to put words into my "mouth".Don't assume.

I know exactly why you brought up the sharks form. My brother is a sharks fan so I've seen some of the reaction first hand. Anecdotal evidence is irrelevant anyway. I'm not saying that sharks fans haven't been upset with the teams performance, there were big expectations after winning the title last year. Now you're the reigning premiers and arguably on your day still the best team in the comp so sharks fans expect to see the team play super well.

That doesn't change the fact that the sharks have had a very good year this year. When a team is coming 5th and they're the remaining premiers form is not a legitimate excuse for poor crowds. The idea that sharks fans have shown resilience for sill showing up when their team is doing very well and are one of the favourites for the comp is ludicrous and nothing will change that.

Loyalty is what the knights fans are showing. When the sharks drop to the bottom 4 and those fans are still showing up that's loyalty. Supporting your team when they're close to the best team isn't a big achievement.

Seriously if we follow your logic than EVERY team in the comp bar the storm could argue they've played below par basically. It's just nonsense.

Also again I haven't been insulting sharks crowds. They've been decent this year despite the shit factors like Thursday nights and poor scheduling on big matches. If you said sharks crowds have been good in spite of that I would have 100% agreed with you.
 

Brutus

Referee
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According to multiple sources (Cowbs, Tvl Bully twitter) tonights derby is sold out. Absolute f$&@ing miracle tbh seeing as though the 'tards running our game scheduled it for a Thursday. Big ups to all the NQ and Bris fans in NQ.
Bet there will be plenty of spare seats. Hope I am wrong.
 

Billythekid

First Grade
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And i told you we DO have a poor home record this year.
You have to go down to the 11th placed team to find a team who has lost more games at home than we did.
Are you f**king special or what?

Give me a break. Is that really how a teams form is judged? So not only does your team have to be near the top of the ladder they also need an outstanding home record for fans to show up. Your total record is 14 wins 9 loss. Your home record is 5 wins 7 losses. That's a team with a good record.

Again if we use your logic damn well near every team can say they have a poor record.

Of all the piss poor excuses I've read in this thread this has got to be the worst one.
 

beave

Coach
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Pretty amazing to sell out Suncorp on a Thursday night. Kudos to the broncos.

images
 

Clifferd

Coach
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Basically Cowboys grand final not surprised, although surprised at the same time seeing as it's on a Thursday. Hope they can get into the semis off a big crowd
 

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