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2021 - Squad, Signings, Re-signings

Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by Dragonslayer, Aug 9, 2020.

  1. st.phil

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    They baulked on Joe O's price rather than missed out from what I understood
     
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    Former Dragons assistant coach backs Ben Hunt as captain
    By Jay Winter 6 hours ago
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    Reports are suggesting that St. George Illawarra Dragons’ halfback Ben Hunt is set to be named captain of the club.

    The Daily Telegraph is reporting that Hunt is set to be installed as new skipper by coach Anthony Griffin.

    Former Dragons assistant coach Shane Flanagan has commented on Hunt who is set to take over from Cameron McInnes after he sustained a season-ending knee injury last week.

    “I like Benny, he’s a good kid,” he said on SEN 1170.

    “His heart is in the right place, he trains hard and he prepares well.”

    Flanagan also commented on the additional pressure the new role may have for Hunt.

    “A lot of people might say that there’s going to be more pressure on him to perform but I think he'll take pride in being club captain," he added.

    “He’ll take a little more responsibility.

    “He gets a lot of pressure on him because of his paypacket, which you can’t shy away from, he needs to perform.

    “But from what I can see, he’s got a good relationship with the coach and I think that’s a big step towards being successful.”

    Hunt is set to lead the Dragons for the first time on for their Charity Shield match against South Sydney in Mudgee on February 27.

    https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/02/17/former-dragons-assistant-coach-backs-ben-hunt-as-captain/
     
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  3. getsmarty

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    We didn't miss out on Joe O...we passed on him...
     
  4. getsmarty

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    Bird eyes centres after Dragons comeback
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      Jack Bird has played 25 minutes in St George Illawarra's 28-6 NRL trial loss to Parramatta.
      Jack Bird wants to make his NRL return at left centre for St George Illawarra after getting through his first match in almost 12 months unscathed.

      Bird played 25 minutes as planned in the Dragons' 28-6 pre-season loss to Parramatta, but crucially left the ground with no concerns over his knee.

      The 25-year-old has not played an NRL match since May 2019 at Brisbane, before missing the rest of that season with a sternum injury.

      He returned in one trial at fullback for Brisbane last February, but went down on the eve of the first round with a second ACL injury in three years.

      Bird has mostly trained in the second row at the Dragons, but told coach Anthony Griffin last week he would rather ease back to match fitness at centre.

      The move has also coincided with the club's decision not to pursue Israel Folau, leaving Brayden Wiliame as the other option at left centre.

      "I told Hook (Anthony Griffin) I would rather play centre," Bird said.

      "He asked why and I said I had played centre at the Sharks for two years and got used to it and moulded myself to it.

      "It's probably too early for me to jump in the middle.

      "Hook was trying to help my knee out a bit by (not) doing lateral movements and steps (in the middle), but I'm not much of a stepper anyway.

      "That might come one day when I get a bit of confidence in my knees."

      Bird expects to play more there in next week's Charity Shield, but his brief involvements were promising on Thursday night at Kogarah.

      He laid on a break in the lead up to the Dragons' only try, forcing an error with a hard hit before putting Mat Feagai down field with a slick underarm pass.

      Fellow new recruit Andrew McCullough also got through 20 minutes without concern, in his first game back since a hamstring tendon rupture last July.

      Will Smith impressed for Parramatta, scoring one try and setting up another in his push for the club's No.14 jersey before the match was called with 11 minutes to go.

      Oregon Kaufusi also scored one try and Isaiah Papalii was also powerful, with both sides running teams of players who had limited first-grade exposure last year.

      In the only real injury concern, Eels recruit Michael Oldfield suffered a knee injury after just 12 minutes which could hurt his push to claim a centre spot.

      Australian Associated Press

      https://www.portnews.com.au/story/7133530/bird-eyes-centres-after-dragons-comeback/
     
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  5. Maddragon99

    Maddragon99 Juniors

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    Jack getting through injury free is big positive, hopefully he can slide into Lock come round one. My mail from a few weeks ago was that he wouldn’t be playing any trials so he must be ahead of his rehab program.
     
  6. BLM01

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    You need to sack your postman! Most mail usually goes to the wrong address or is late.
     
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    Im very happy with Birdy at left centre...........makes us a much better IMO. He brings leadership, intensity and smarts on the field. Will be interesting to manage also so no doubt some theatre to come :) !!!

    ACL recon for Teddy Tedesco and smashed Patella and he is flying high now......... so it is possible for Birdy to come back well but two ACLs puts you in a completely different category and lowers his chances.

    https://www.menshealth.com.au/how-james-tedesco-became-the-best
     
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  8. Auntie.Gerald

    Auntie.Gerald First Grade

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    https://www.nospam21.com/the-curious-case-of-corey-norman-nrl-100912/

    The article above re Normie is a good read

    Reminds me of 2009

    recruiting players and re positioning players to find their best and be their best yet !

    Weyman fringe to dominant
    Hornby FB to Half
    Sowie found his genius in field position first via incredible kicking game

    Can Normie find his true talent week to week in 2021 ?

    Can Hunt do the same?

    Andrew M can he come back from successive injuries and star at no9 ?

    Can Josh Kerr be the man in 2021 !
     
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    Slippery Morris First Grade

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    Bird and Lomax in the centres. Guys that can actually pass and give good service to the wingers. What a difference to having AItken and Lafai. The wingers will finally get some good quality ball. The backline is starting to take shape.
     
  10. redv13

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    Now we just need a fullback who can catch bombs and halves who can grab a game by the scruff of the neck. Baby steps but yes looking better slowly
     
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  11. Shaun_Timmins

    Shaun_Timmins Juniors

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    Here is the article in case the link doesn't work for anyone else, if you find a good article, it would be great to copy and paste as getsmarty does. A lot of these things are behind paywalls or the links copied don't work.



    Corey Norman is approaching the final year of his lucrative three-year deal with the St. George Illawarra Dragons and as uncertainty continues to surround his future in the NRL, the 2021 season shapes to be his most important yet.

    There are no two ways about it, Corey Norman’s career is on the line as he attempts to steady a seemingly sinking ship in the St. George Illawarra Dragons for the upcoming NRL season. In this deep dive into Corey Norman’s career, we take a look at the peaks and troughs of the enigmatic pivot’s career so far in the National Rugby League and determine what exactly he can provide to a team.

    Norman burst onto the scene with a man of the match performance for the Brisbane Broncos in 2010. The classy fullback was seen as the usurper to the number six jersey, made famous by none other than club legend, Darren Lockyer.

    The 29-year-old was in and out of first grade until 2012, where the retirement of Lockyer gave Norman a chance to create his own legacy. Norman would go on to play in all 25 games in the 2012 season, scoring 10 tries in his favoured five-eighth position.

    After scraping into 8th position, the Broncos were promptly eliminated in the first week of the finals by a dominant North Queensland Cowboys side.

    Norman was starting to live up to the form that saw him crowned back of the year in the Broncos 2009 NYC team. However, during the 2013 season, Norman would announce he was signing with the Parramatta Eels for the upcoming season.


    His subsequent form would see him dropped from the Broncos’ side altogether towards the end of the season by then-coach Anthony Griffin. Norman scored two tries and nine try assists from 17 games for the season before departing the Red Hill.

    Norman moved to the Eels in 2014, looking for a chance to stamp himself in his favoured and promised position of five-eighth after being moved between that and fullback in his last year at Brisbane.

    His early years at the Parramatta Eels were largely devoid of any real success. The Eels would fail to make the finals in years 2014-2016, however, Norman would show glimpses of his potential, particularly in the Nines tournaments, where he was named Player of the Tournament in their Nines competition victory in 2016 (this would however be later stripped due to salary cap sanctions).

    Norman finished with three tries and seven try assists from 24 games in 2014 and three tries and 10 try assists from 22 games in 2015.

    After an underwhelming first two seasons with the Eels, 2016 would turn out to be Norman’s most challenging yet. The mercurial playmaker would find his best form for the club yet and was sitting 3rd on the Dally M leaderboard by round 18 of the season.

    Norman was then arrested at the Star Casino after being found to be in possession of eight MDMA capsules. After Norman’s arrest, a lewd video surfaced due to a failed extortion attempt showing the Eels five-eighth and fellow NRL star James Segearyo in a consensual sexual act with a female.

    He would later be fined $20,000 by the NRL and suspended for the rest of the season. The Eels, who already had 12 competition points stripped due to salary cap sanctions, finished 14th on the ladder. Norman had one try and 15 try assists from 16 games.

    2017 will go down as a missed opportunity for the Parramatta Eels, with the side failing to capitalise on an unlikely top-four spot.

    Boosted by the mid-season signing of halves partner Mitchell Moses, Norman would score three tries and lay on another nine for the Eels in the 20 games he featured in. This would be Norman’s second foray into a finals series in his 8th season of first grade and his first with the Eels.

    Alas, the Eels season ended in straight sets after being beaten by the eventual premiers Melbourne, and then the Cowboys. Norman was then picked on the bench in the Prime Minister’s XIII to play against PNG.

    In 2018, many pundits gave the Eels a strong chance to seriously challenge for what would be their first premiership since 1987. The Eels had now settled on their halves combination of Norman and Moses and boosted their premiership credentials with the return of their prodigal son, Jarryd Hayne.

    Despite this, the Eels would go on to win only two of their opening 11 games with Norman being heavily criticized for his performances despite statistically having one of his stronger years, scoring four tries and 12 try assists from 23 games.

    In May, Norman would be fined $20,000 for drinking while being on the injured list which was spotted through social media posts. The Eels would go on to claim their 14th wooden spoon this season and would release Norman to the St. George Illawarra Dragons on a rich deal.

    In the lead up to the 2019 NRL season, Norman’s new career with the Dragons was off to a rocky start, with another controversial video involving Norman surfacing. The video depicted an older gentleman snorting a white substance with Norman and Wallabies star Kurtley Beale heard encouraging the man. Norman was cleared of any wrongdoing by the NRL integrity committee and the video was determined to be from 2016.

    After a strong finals showing from the Dragons in 2018, they were tipped by some pundits to have a tilt at the premiership. However, they would finish the season in 15th position, making it one of the worst seasons in Dragons history.

    Norman’s performances however, highlighted by kicking the winning field goals against the Broncos and the Knights in successive weeks, was rewarded with a spot in the Queensland side for Game III of the State of Origin series. Norman played strongly, laying on a try, however the Maroons were defeated on the buzzer by a spirited Blues side. Norman would finish the season with two tries and 14 try assists from 19 games.

    The 2020 NRL season was a year like no other, but we don’t need to tell you that. Norman was coming off one of his best seasons the year prior, but this was to be short lived. In short, the Dragons had a disastrous year, highlighted by the sacking of coach Paul McGregor after seven years at the helm.

    Norman would be dropped from the side for their round 13 clash against the Roosters, as tabloids heavily linked him to a move to the Super League. The proposed trade with former Dragons player and current Warrington Wolf, Gareth Widdop, did not come to fruition however, as Norman would return to the side to finish the season with five tries and six try assists from 18 games.

    That brings us to 2021. Norman is a veteran of the game now, playing 206 first grade games to date. As highlighted above, his past sides have struggled to make the finals during his tenure, featuring in only two finals series in his 11 year career.

    So the question has to be asked, has Corey Norman provided all he can to the NRL? Is 2021 the swansong of his career in Australia? While often showing his great talent on the field, off-field dramas have often hampered any real success and in turn damaged his clubs chances of winning the premiership.

    Other clubs in the NRL could be interested in the veteran five-eighth, but given the fluidity of the transfer market and Norman’s baggage, it would seem that a move to England could be his only option come the end of the season.
     
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  12. Crush

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    Bird is going to play centre, as he should.
    Dufty will play fallback, as he should and Ramsey will play wing. Decent backline.
     
  13. getsmarty

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    Thanks for posting @Shaun_Timmins .
     
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  14. Saint52

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    Engine room needs to fire first, do we have the pack!!
     
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    Yes??
     
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    Yeah nah
     
  17. getsmarty

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    Why Anthony Griffin let Dragons captain walk to rival club
    By Lachlan Geleit a day ago
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    St. George Illawarra coach Anthony Griffin has detailed why he let two-time player of the year and club captain Cameron McInnes leave for Cronulla.

    Speaking on 1170 SEN Breakfast with Vossy, Griffin claimed the decision to let McInnes walk was a salary and list call.

    “Well I think Cam said it all, it comes down to our list and salary cap,” Griffin said.

    “Cam was really keen to secure his future, when I first got here when he was going to the market at the end of last year.

    He went to the market and it served him really well.

    The 54-year-old told Voss that while it was disappointing to see his captain go, he feels McInnes made the right call for his future.

    “He’s a champion and he’s always done a really great job for the club,” he added.

    “There’s a lot of things that go into recruitment instead of just signing a player for a certain amount of money.

    “I’m really happy for Cam, it’s terrible to see him go and sometimes things don’t go the way you want, especially for the fans.

    “But he has set himself up for forty years in the future with the Sharks.”

    The Dragons open up their 2021 campaign on Sunday, March 14 against Cronulla.

    https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/02/18/why-anthony-griffin-let-dragons-captain-walk-to-rival-club/
     
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  18. Saint Dave

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    Can’t blame him for going seeing how he is set for the next forty years!
     
  19. getsmarty

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    Yep...Typo...if you listen to the interview Griffin never states this...they more than likely meant to say next 4 years...Sharks have payed overs ( salary cap decreasing ) for a player that they will attempt to play @ lock...( untried in this position over a long period of time. )

    we were never going to keep him...more to the story....

    That being said, A.M is on less than half that amount with a few promising juniors coming through.

    Frees up money for a good signing.... ;-)
     
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    Yep..answers the questions directly..no spin. Yes Hook's opinion but good enough for me thus far.
    Joey & Matty Johns..great judges?..I am not convinced about Joey but they were good players no doubt and Joey world class on the field.
     

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