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2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

Wb1234

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Afl is facing its biggest crisis in decades and the afl leadership is trying to ignore it or brush it away

its pretty clear how bad Gillion is as a leader

and the level of dishonesty in this scandal Cleary shows he’s incapable of being trusted
 

Colk

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So a news ltd journo wouldn’t know how much they paid

cmon lol

You honestly think they are sitting there in the middle of the negotiations don’t you? There are a whole bunch of possibilities

1. They could of announced it before they actually officially concluded the negotiations - so the final figure could have increased.

2. They might have been fed the wrong numbers - think of it like the game Chinese Whispers.

3. It could have been a simple typo or copy error. Do you understand for example that the whole industry of journalism has changed over the last 10 years. Previously you had journalists, then you had editors, then you had sub-editors. You had press photographers. People in charge of layout etc. There has been a massive reduction in the numbers in this industry and the concept of specialisation has essentially been eroded - so you have journalists in charge of their own copy or doing the layout. That in turn means more errors. If you like, go and read a newspaper and you’ll notice more and more errors yourself

4. You are right. It could be the right amount but it shouldn’t have been released and was ordered off the page as soon as possible

Essentially what you are saying is only one possibility, rather than the only possibility.
 

Perth Red

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Weird though. If there was a Rugby League racism scandal you’d be commenting on the lack of response from the NRL within minutes?

Call me crazy but It’s almost as if you’re an AFL fan trolling a Rugby League site.
Call me crazy but it’s Almost like this is a tv rights discussion.
 

Perth Red

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You honestly think they are sitting there in the middle of the negotiations don’t you? There are a whole bunch of possibilities

1. They could of announced it before they actually officially concluded the negotiations - so the final figure could have increased.

2. They might have been fed the wrong numbers - think of it like the game Chinese Whispers.

3. It could have been a simple typo or copy error. Do you understand for example that the whole industry of journalism has changed over the last 10 years. Previously you had journalists, then you had editors, then you had sub-editors. You had press photographers. People in charge of layout etc. There has been a massive reduction in the numbers in this industry and the concept of specialisation has essentially been eroded - so you have journalists in charge of their own copy or doing the layout. That in turn means more errors. If you like, go and read a newspaper and you’ll notice more and more errors yourself

4. You are right. It could be the right amount but it shouldn’t have been released and was ordered off the page as soon as possible

Essentially what you are saying is only one possibility, rather than the only possibility.
It’s much more likely the tv part of the deal is the $550mill a year cash that has been quoted a few times ($3.85bill) . Telstra making up the other $22-25mill ish a year cash to take it to the “over $4bill“ cash that afl has quoted.
The remaining $71mill a year being contra and the telstra other stuff. But that’s just supposition based on what’s been in the media so far.

It was mentioned in one of the reports telstra are paying $60mill a year. So that MAY be $25mill cash, $35mill other stuff. doesn’t sound unrealistic.
 
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Perth Red

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Sometimes you have to call out dickheads, I asked many times for links... nothing which means he is full of shit
Google it you lazy arse, or trawl back through the 200 pages of this thread where whats available has been posted numerous times lol

$70-100mill covid reductions not recouped

2023 $402v433
2024 $402v433
2025 $402 v593
2026 $402v593
2027 $402v593
 
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i think someone said the 3.5 bill was the cash component of the deal
500 mill a year
the rest including teltras entire contribution of upgrades to marvel stadiums wi fi .. 🤣 in contra
142 mill of contra ... wow

racistball & rubbery figures
peas in a pod
 
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Wb1234

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i think someone said the 3.5 bill was the cash component of the deal
500 mill a year
the rest including teltras entire contribution of upgrades to marvel stadiums wi fi .. 🤣 in contra
142 mill of contra ... wow

racistball & rubbery figures
peas in a pod
I doubt it’s actually 500 million cash

it still probably includes the same contra as last time

so say 470 million cash is what the broadcasters pay

I also think I read they added an extra round to the season (magic round) which they hadn’t revealed before

the smoke and mirrors on this one is worse than last time
 

Iamback

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I doubt it’s actually 500 million cash

it still probably includes the same contra as last time

so say 470 million cash is what the broadcasters pay

I also think I read they added an extra round to the season (magic round) which they hadn’t revealed before

the smoke and mirrors on this one is worse than last time

The magic round makes a good point, Actually is more content too. Pulling NRL even further behind in the content stakes
 

Iamback

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i think someone said the 3.5 bill was the cash component of the deal
500 mill a year
the rest including teltras entire contribution of upgrades to marvel stadiums wi fi .. 🤣 in contra
142 mill of contra ... wow

racistball & rubbery figures
peas in a pod

Over the next few years before this deal starts, The big picture will come out and it won't be nearly as bad as headlines show
 

Perth Red

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i think someone said the 3.5 bill was the cash component of the deal
500 mill a year
the rest including teltras entire contribution of upgrades to marvel stadiums wi fi .. 🤣 in contra
142 mill of contra ... wow

racistball & rubbery figures
peas in a pod
Did you miss the afl announcement where they clearly said over $4bill is cash?

 

Perth Red

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Over the next few years before this deal starts, The big picture will come out and it won't be nearly as bad as headlines show
Haha, i hope your prediction is better than the ones you’ve been making over last two years ie
afl aren’t getting $473 in 23&24
afl won’t be negotiating upwards from that $473
afl won’t get over $500mill
no one else is bidding it’s a lie
and so it goes on. Your crystal ball is looking a little dusty!

this is the “big” picture as it stands today!

2023 $402v433
2024 $402v433
2025 $402 v593
2026 $402v593
2027 $402v593
 

Steel Saints

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Tv rights thread, if I wanted to talk about the horrible racist problems their sport has I’d go to the fight club were it belongs, so let’s get back to tv deals.
A couple of weeks ago, i was questioning the amount of AFL content under NRL media watch. And that has continued on.

Yes, partly because of the impact the AFL deal will have on the NRL. How the media rights cash will help the AFL encroach into NRL heartland. But it still should've been in the rightful place in the AFL forum. But since the moderators are lackadaisical, I might as well talk about aerial ping pong.

With a recent article involving potential racism and other serious matters in the AFL, it may slow down their gains in NSW and Qld especially If the allegations are true. And even if the allegations are false, unfortunately mud does stick .

They may well be swimming in rivers of gold, but if the racism theme continues to be a regular occurance in the future, then it will be hard for the AFL to grow beyond their heartland states.
 

Colk

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A couple of weeks ago, i was questioning the amount of AFL content under NRL media watch. And that has continued on.

Yes, partly because of the impact the AFL deal will have on the NRL. How the media rights cash will help the AFL encroach into NRL heartland. But it still should've been in the rightful place in the AFL forum. But since the moderators are lackadaisical, I might as well talk about aerial ping pong.

With a recent article involving potential racism and other serious matters in the AFL, it may slow down their gains in NSW and Qld especially If the allegations are true. And even if the allegations are false, unfortunately mud does stick .

They may well be swimming in rivers of gold, but if the racism theme continues to be a regular occurance in the future, then it will be hard for the AFL to grow beyond their heartland states.

Furthermore, they might lose casual fans across Auatralia if this continues. They will probably lose corporate sponsorship over this, particularly if the stories continue.
 

Perth Red

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There’s no doubt they dodged a bullet getting the tv deal done before this broke. Having said that business is hard nosed and itll all be blown over with talks of reconciliation plans and atsi academies or something. Hopefully for the sake of those who play and follow their game they go deeper and sort it out properly. Like I said what ive read is disgusting and people need to be fired if substantiated.

if I was nrl I’d have used some of my contra to run some ads right now showing why rugby league has always been the countries most inclusive game!

but back to tv deals lol.
 

Billythekid

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There’s no doubt they dodged a bullet getting the tv deal done before this broke. Having said that business is hard nosed and itll all be blown over with talks of reconciliation plans and atsi academies or something. Hopefully for the sake of those who play and follow their game they go deeper and sort it out properly. Like I said what ive read is disgusting and people need to be fired if substantiated.

if I was nrl I’d have used some of my contra to run some ads right now showing why rugby league has always been the countries most inclusive game!

but back to tv deals lol.
They managed to weather the Adam Goodes situation and still manage to be called the indigenous game. People have short memories and frankly this country just doesn’t care that much about indigenous people unfortunately.
 

Colk

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They managed to weather the Adam Goodes situation and still manage to be called the indigenous game. People have short memories and frankly this country just doesn’t care that much about indigenous people unfortunately.

The cynic in me suggests you’re right. They will mainly weather it as they’re brainwashed down there. However, I still think it will be harder for them than Adam Goodes because the accusations are a lot of worse. This isn’t fans but something that has come from clubs and their management.
 

Perth Red

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The cynic in me suggests you’re right. They will mainly weather it as they’re brainwashed down there. However, I still think it will be harder for them than Adam Goodes because the accusations are a lot of worse. This isn’t fans but something that has come from clubs and their management.
People have a way of compartmentalising this sht, I mean we’ve had countless incidents of nrl players and staff abusing women yet here we still are.
 

Dragonwest

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Did you miss the afl announcement where they clearly said over $4bill is cash?

Considering there track record with lying on NSW/QLD crowds, participation rates and previous media deals you'd be crazy not to question their numbers. When you break it down based on 7 paying a 15% increase the numbers for Fox just don't add up ....
 

Iamback

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Considering there track record with lying on NSW/QLD crowds, participation rates and previous media deals you'd be crazy not to question their numbers. When you break it down based on 7 paying a 15% increase the numbers for Fox just don't add up ....

100%. We know Telstra is involved too, The AFL said as much on their website. We know very few details yet. So is just waiting for more to come out
 

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