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2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

tri_colours

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Gyngell really played Smith in that deal . What was Smith thinking? I had forgotten just how bad that deal was. Smith should have at least guaranteed the C9 coverage for Saturday night could'nt be onsold even if it was not exclusive.
 
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Perth Red

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Gyngell really played Smith in that deal . What was Smith thinking? I had forgotten just how bad that deal was. Smith should have at least guaranteed the C9 coverage for Saturday night could'nt be onsold even if it was not exclusive.
Yes from a fans point of view, but from a revenue point of view it upped the FTA deal significantly and arguably more than any extra Fox would have paid NRL for it. The fact it pssed off News ltd so much was just a bonus lol.
 

colly

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I could tell you how to get P*ss pay*alls but mod wont like. Allright P/Red I just put it thier for you all to discuss without ME.

Channel 7 hunting State of Origin rights as NRL TV deal race heats up​

The Seven Network is ready to ramp up its bid to secure the free-to-air TV rights to rugby league’s biggest event.

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Rugby league could change channels on free-to-air television for the first time in three decades with incumbent the Nine Network facing competition from rival Seven Network, with Seven keen to win rights to the popular State of Origin series.
Seven has expressed interest to rugby league executives in bidding for the three lucrative and high-rating Origin matches, generally among the most-watched TV programs each year, and one NRL game per round, sources have told News Corp.
Network Ten is also understood to have indicated it is considering a bid for NRL free-to-air rights, currently held by Nine through to the end of the 2022 season following the renegotiation of its deal last year under former chief executive Hugh Marks at the height of the first Covid wave in Australia last year.
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A degree of enmity still exists between NRL officials and Nine after that deal, which saw Nine’s annual payment for rugby league rights drop from about $115m to closer to $90m in a contract that will expire at the end of the 2022 grand final.
At the time, Marks was heavily critical of the NRL under former boss Todd Greenberg, while saying it was not a given rugby league was part of the network’s future.

Channel 7 is keen to secure the TV rights for State of Origin. Picture: Peter Wallis
While a deal was subsequently struck, News Corp recently reported that the NRL earlier this year complained to Nine during the Australian Open tennis about the amount of promotion rugby union on newly formed streamer Stan Sport was getting during Nine’s telecast.
ARLC chairman Peter V’landys and NRL CEO Andrew Abdo aim to have a new free-to-air broadcast deal clinched by Christmas and would want the value of the free-to-air component to at least return to pre-Covid levels.
At that level, the NRL would be looking at a deal worth at least a combined $600m through to 2027, the same year Foxtel’s pay-television rights deal was extended to last year.
There is a belief among NRL officials that their rights are increasingly valuable given they are one of the few properties to be available for free-to-air with most sports now on streaming services.
Rugby league administrators have met with new Nine CEO Mike Sneesby, the former Stan boss, and held a series of preliminary meetings with Seven and Ten officials.
While Seven boss James Warburton has said his network “would not blow our brains out” when bidding for sports rights, a scenario is unfolding where it could be a serious contender for rugby league for the first time since the days of Rex Mossop hosting coverage in the 1970s and early 1980s.

ARLC chairman Peter V’landys hopes to have a new free-to-air deal done by Christmas. Picture: Jonathan Ng
Seven still is paying about $75m in cash and $7m in contra for cricket rights annually, in a six-year deal clinched in 2018. The network and Cricket Australia were embroiled in a legal stoush last summer that saw Seven threaten to ditch its contract, though Warburton has been more conciliatory towards the sport with a lucrative Ashes series looming in the upcoming summer.
But Seven still has court action outstanding against Cricket Australia and could attempt to extricate itself from its cricket rights to have funds available for rugby league.
If it were to bid for the Friday night match it would dominate the popular timeslot around Australia, given it already holds AFL rights on the same evening.
Seven is also contemplating a bid for future Olympic rights, despite losing $50m on its recent high-rating Tokyo coverage.
State of Origin is regularly one of the most watched TV programs in Australia each year. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images

State of Origin is regularly one of the most watched TV programs in Australia each year. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images
Sneesby will announce his network’s financial results to the ASX on Wednesday and will be asked by analysts how serious Nine is about retaining rugby league rights.
Meanwhile, Ten earlier this month launched its Paramount streaming service on which it will show A-League soccer games after signing a five-year $200m deal for A-League games, which will also see some games and the W-League shown on Ten’s free-to-air channels.

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Ten subsequently agreed to pay another $100m to governing body Football Australia for Socceroos and Matildas games, and will also show National Basketball League games.
Given that expenditure, there are question marks about how much more spending Ten’s parent ViacomCBS could undertake on sports should it throw its hat into the ring for rugby league rights, though its executives have indicated it will at least consider a bid.
 

danderson4500

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If Seven gets FNF they can air AFL on main and NRL on 7mate in Melbourne. But what happens in WA? both clash with the news, so maybe 7two airs NRL in Perth.
 

Hartwood

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Would it be possible to keep the remaining 3 games on channel 9, but get an extra FTA game on 10 or 7? Or is that impossible with Fox already securing 5 exclusive games up to 2027?
 

Marlins

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If the NRL had some bigger balls they would add two new teams in 23’.
Bring back MNF. Ditch Nein and go with
10 & 7.

7 -
Sunday Arvo Game
MNF game
SOO

10 -
Thur
FRI 8pm
 

Perth Red

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Would it be possible to keep the remaining 3 games on channel 9, but get an extra FTA game on 10 or 7? Or is that impossible with Fox already securing 5 exclusive games up to 2027?
Only if we expand and have a ninth game and the NRL hasnt locked that into any deal so far.
 

Perth Red

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If the NRL had some bigger balls they would add two new teams in 23’.
Bring back MNF. Ditch Nein and go with
10 & 7.

7 -
Sunday Arvo Game
MNF game
SOO

10 -
Thur
FRI 8pm
With the mutli screen options and unlimited channels on KAYO Id rather see the NRL pushing for simulcast games on streaming into the future. Get back to fan friendly kick off times and fill stadiums. Clubs will benefit and there's no real downside for PTV streaming.

Thursday night FTA Ch9
Friday night FTA Ch9
4 games on a Saturday on PTV, 1 on FTA Ch7
3 games on a Sunday afternoon 1 on FTA Ch7 2 on PTV
 

Starkers

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Actually makes me feel quite sad. Nothing direct, all speculation. Hope we have more in the pipeline than this.
 

Cactus

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Actually makes me feel quite sad. Nothing direct, all speculation. Hope we have more in the pipeline than this.

Cheer up.

Apparently 9s Mike Sneesby has warned the NRL about splitting the rights in an article in the Australian today which sounds a lot like the same bluff and bluster our old friend Hugh Skiddy carried on with the last time competitive tension raised its good looking head.
 

Perth Red

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We can only hope:
1. There is three FTA bidders to drive up price
2. Vlandys hasnt sold Fox exclusive Saturdays so we have an opportunity to bring in a ninth game on FTA Saturday night
3. Ch9 dont win and Ch7 or 10 pay more than the $125mill Ch9 paid a year (or were supposed to till Vlandys let them off the hook) last time.
4. SOO and International games are bundled together and sold separately from NRL season forcing NRL to honour its international commitments.
 

Perth Red

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Apparently 9s Mike Sneesby has warned the NRL about splitting the rights in an article in the Australian today which sounds a lot like the same bluff and bluster our old friend Hugh Skiddy carried on with the last time competitive tension raised its good looking head.
Anyone able to post it?

 

Chief_Chujo

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Nine Network boss warns of the NRL of perils of splitting the broadcasting rights​

Nine Network boss Mike Sneesby has fired a shot across the bow of the NRL, warning them that they risk diluting the value of their broadcast rights if they sell the State of Origin series and premiership matches as separate entities.
The Australian on Tuesday revealed that the Seven Network was eyeing off the jewel in rugby league’s crown, State of Origin. Seven are also said to be interested in securing rights to at least one premiership match per round while the Ten Network have been linked with grabbing a slice of the NRL pie.

At the moment, rights for the premiership and Origin reside with the Nine Network, although their agreement with the NRL is set to expire at the end of 2022.

The NRL has been locked in negotiations with Nine over an extension to their existing deal and Sneesby warned the game’s powerbrokers they would be taking a financial risk by splitting the rights for Origin and premiership games among two or more networks.

“I’m not going to go into details around where we’re up to with a commercial negotiation with the NRL,” Sneesby said.

“Suffice to say from a broad perspective – and this applies with anything that we’re looking at in sport – if rights are split with a major sport like the NRL, the value of those rights gets diluted.

“If you look at our media platforms, our total television business, and our ability to really get behind the long-term growth of a sport, and the plans that (ARL Commission chair) Peter V’landys and (NRL chief executive) Andrew Abdo have for the NRL, we are the best-placed media business to be able to help support the growth and the future of the game, in partnership with the NRL.

“If you begin to split rights, that starts to dilute that opportunity, and makes it increasingly difficult.

“Certainly, our view is, keeping the rights together is a much better outcome for the game.”

Sneesby declined to buy into speculation that the NRL was unhappy over the amount of promotion Nine gave to rugby union – shown on their streaming service Stan – during this year’s Australian Open tennis.

“I’m not going to go into responding to things that have either been speculated or quoted in the media,” he said.

Origin is a sure-fire ratings winner, consistently among the most watched shows on Australian television every year.

Nine would be loath to lose it and it shapes as a key plank in broadcasting talks as pressure mounts on V’landys and Abdo to deliver a bumper new deal for the code given they are intent on expanding to 17 teams, potentially as early as 2023.

Final discussions have already been held with the three bidding parties – Redcliffe Dolphins, Brisbane Firehawks and Brisbane Jets – over their respective bids and the NRL’s expansion committee will meet again on Thursday to discuss the next step.

There is a chance at that meeting that they could make a firm recommendation to go to the ARL Commission next week on when and if expansion should go ahead. Their next challenge will be getting the existing clubs on side.

Whether that happens will largely depend on the ability of V’landys and Abdo to extract additional money from the broadcasters. The likelihood is that talks with free-to-air partners may not be complete until later in the year, meaning the ARL Commission will largely be reliant on Foxtel to come to the party.

It has been reported previously that the commission had a clause built into their deal with Foxtel that catered for fresh talks should the game move to 17 teams.

There is a view that Foxtel and Kayo numbers in Queensland in particular would benefit from an additional team, but the question will be how much additional money they are willing to pay to cover the fresh expense of another side.

The Gemba Group report, commissioned by the clubs to review the implications of a 17th team, found that a new team would generate 2.6 million extra viewers if all 12 additional matches were broadcasted via Foxtel and 9.3 million if they were broadcast via Foxtel and a free-to-air provider.

Based on the current broadcasting deal, that would lead to a $13 million increase if the 12 additional matches were on Foxtel and $25 million if they were simulcast. Even that may not be enough to appease the existing clubs, who have suggested expansion needs to be worth as much as $40 million a season for them to jump on board.

It means V’landys and Abdo are under extreme pressure to maximise their broadcasting revenue if they are to succeed with their expansion plans.
 

Chief_Chujo

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If you look at our media platforms, our total television business, and our ability to really get behind the long-term growth of a sport, and the plans that (ARL Commission chair) Peter V’landys and (NRL chief executive) Andrew Abdo have for the NRL, we are the best-placed media business to be able to help support the growth and the future of the game, in partnership with the NRL.

Hahahahahahaha stop it Sneesby. I'm being hard on the bloke and what he has taken the reins of. But Nein, NRL, support and growth don't really mix in my mind.
 

Perth Red

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“It has been reported previously that the commission had a clause built into their deal with Foxtel that catered for fresh talks should the game move to 17 teams.”

has it? First I’ve heard of it
 

Coastbloke

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We can only hope:
4. SOO and International games are bundled together and sold separately from NRL season forcing NRL to honour its international commitments.
I sincerely wish a decent offer by Seven or Ten would promise to give International Rugby league a new priority, but I just don't see it. Australian media are only interested in SOO and the GF.

2 years ago when the Kangaroos played Tonga, the dumped it to 9GEM. Almost everyone has a digital TV nowadays but it still only got half the ratings than it would of had it been in the mainNine channel..

Internationals do rate. It's been proved in the past. Put a bit of effort into it in terms of promotion and they will come. Both advertisers AND viewers..
 

Starkers

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“It has been reported previously that the commission had a clause built into their deal with Foxtel that catered for fresh talks should the game move to 17 teams.”

has it? First I’ve heard of it
good to know though, obviously a potential upward revision.
 

Diesel

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“It has been reported previously that the commission had a clause built into their deal with Foxtel that catered for fresh talks should the game move to 17 teams.”

has it? First I’ve heard of it
You’re the resident expert on how PVL & co have sold us out so we should be asking you
 

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